Man, Pinsiders are a bunch of negative motherf$%^&ers.

The theme doesn't do anything for me, so I'll be honest and say it's probably a pass based on that. Too many other things that excite me that I don't have. So I'm not cheerleading this pin.

But FFS, how about we play it before we shit on it? How about we see what things actually do before crapping all over them?

There were days and days of Star Trek hate on here when it was revealed. Then people played it and realized it was fast and fun and awesome and it's all love now. This game could actually be *fun*. We just don't know yet. If it sucks it sucks, but maybe find out first?

Okay, but the problem as I see it is we don't even know yet. We have some spy shots. No feature list, no video, and more importantly, no one was actually played it. That's the main reason I like pinball, because it's fun to play. Lot of other reasons too, but it's the most important part. And we don't know a thing about that part yet.

So why not just wait a bit before forming these opinions? Just tired of the negativity I guess, we're lucky anyone is even still making pinballs, but we just crap all over anything new any chance we get.

I will bet $100 that Metallica code ships before this pin. Star Trek code has been solid, and the Karl Urban pack is coming. X-Men update is coming (not putting money on that one, but I think it's close).

Stern has straight up admitted that they know these are issues, and hired more software people.

All that would go a long way to making people feel more comfortable I think. Again maybe this game sucks. But maybe the official reveal has some tricks we don't know about.

Yeah, the playfield is kind ugly, no doubt. AC/DC's is hideous, that game is just straight up ugly. Pro especially. I'm trying to make a decal for it because people hate that face so much. We don't really care because it's so good.

I think that translite looks crappy, guessing it's the Pro. Maybe the Premium and LE will look better. The cab is pretty sweet though, that's some nice original art, not a big photoshopped pic of a car.

I hear that, I'm one of them! I'm utterly uninterested in buying this, not a Mustang guy, the theme would kind of embarrass me in my garage. I'm a Euro car guy, I drive a BMW. That's kind of shallow, I know it, but it's still true.

But as a pinhead I want to see the game, and I'm hoping it's fun, and it just seems that people have decided it's not already based on limited info. That's all.

They were. Obviously something wasn't ready, but that was the plan. Reveal at CES, pics etc, and first actual on-location machine at Chicago Auto Show. So something didn't go according to plan.

They haven't, they suck. No argument here!

I CAN'T FIT MY BMW IN MY GARAGE WITH ALL THE PINBALLS I WANT.

Lol horse sound effect.

It's Gary so of course it has a plunger. Cough cough WPT.

HD started as a Sega, no?