That too. Another great pin

I haven't played a pro on the newest code, the location I play at most swapped out their Pro for an LE. My best score on a pro was around 600,000, with average scores probably in the low 200k range. My best so far on the LE is 450k. I'm pretty much done playing the game at this point. I don't see a major code overhaul to add any depth to the game. It's a real bummer for me, I am looking for something new for home and was hoping this would scratch the itch. I like the theme and art package, the game is just too light in the depth department for me. It's the same reason I didn't pull the trigger on a Monster Bash

This to me is the problem: the shots suck. The code is not great and that's expected (look at Guardians!) but the cheap drains off the metal rail on the left side aka Ghostbusters (and, in fairness, GoT) are just getting old.

When it comes down to it, of course you’re right. On the other hand, since games are still being made, expectations get set and then are too often summarily squashed (see Beatles).

The code bothers me less than the design shortcuts. I mean, the monotargets (TM), come on. If monotargets sell it's only encouraging them to strip down the features even more. They'll keep doing it feature by feature, slowly, until eventually a Stern Pro comes out with one flipper and one giant monotarget and Franchi's art of Gary's ass on the translite and people will still be defending how loaded it is.

Beatles, another GREAT pin

You're wrong. Its horrible! If anyone has one for sale please contact me......

I love the thread title.

What's with the ???

Biggest let down of the year?

Decade?

Century?

HISTORY OF HUMANKIND!?!??!

Stern likely loves people complaining about things that stop / interact with the ball and praises for "buttery smooth" ramps and orbits. That's music to their ears as it will save them money.

Flow is overrated at today's NIB prices. Any design will feel fast when theres two standard ramps, two orbits and little else on the playfield to interact with the ball.

I vote "past day and a half". Is there a poll?

I have played a Pro extensively on location and while it is not my favorite game, it is fine. I cannot understand how people get so upset about a pinball machine that is pretty fun. Did you expect the game to change the way you view the world? Maybe pleasure you sexually? If you don't like it just don't buy it.

I wouldn't count on the code making this great, the guy hasn't even finished his previous game.

Apparently a poll is needed!

(No revealing Deeproot's upcoming design features!)

Remember when I was “the negative guy”?

This is fun to watch.

This is the first Spike era Stern I’ve walked up to and there wasn’t something fundamentally wrong with it...and I had fun. Would I buy one? Not sure...but it’s the first I’d consider since Metallica came out, so that’s something.

At some point all that is left is Stern being full of themselves

I have only played the premium version, but I enjoyed it.
I think that this is the natural backlash of people buying new games, being disappointed for whatever reason, and selling too quickly. It happens with EVERY pin. Fortunately for me, I don't have enough money for such frivolity.

I think it’s a Gary code mandate.

Gary says this. Dwight has to follow. You do this as a good employee. He does a solid job.

He’s not a player though, like Lyman.

Something is def wrong here.

I agree with RH

We're really having fun with the LE. We currently have 2 pins in the collection (BM66 Premium, and Munsters LE), and over the last week, we've played Munsters almost exclusively. It's so much different than BM66, and we really enjoy that. My wife and I describe the difference between a "mission" style game and an "experience" style game. Munsters (the LE at least) is a really great game experience, even if the rules aren't as deep at BM66 (which we *love* and feel is a modern classic in it's current form). Munsters is fun, and the art package is truly impressive. It just looks amazing in the game room.

We're expecting Monster Bash LE shortly, and it'll be interesting to see which we gravitate towards. To each their own, but we're having a blast with it.

I have both those LE's (delivered on the same day even) Munsters is getting more play time by everyone. MBR LE is Drop Dead Gorgeous.think you will love them both.congrats

That is a great 3 game collection. I’ve got all 3 and they r fantastic

Wow, there really are a lot for sale. Why is it that hoby1 starts all these super negative posts? Do you own stock in JJP?

Btw, this NOTHING compared to the shit BM66 received non stop.

Now it’s one of the best pins ever

There have been a few(8?) for sale but wldnt call that alot really? I know a few were selling to upgrade to a premium or le and just got a pro to hold them over till then. No different than iron maiden or deadpool .. many of those are/were for sale also and its a fun pin. Unfortunately many of us are out of room and move alot of pins to get others lol. Ill probably be selling my pro also ...but only once premiums are available for me to purchase.

I think the fear is that Dwight said it's about where he wants it to be and with it being at .96 I doubt it ever comes close to batman but I like the quicker games,I don't always feel like a 30 minute game.I can see how some wouldn't like the game as I thought I may of made mistake buying it for about the first 100 games then it started clicking and I started ordering mods.

Once You get to Munster Madness and have to manipulate 4 flippers You might enjoy game. Lower PF is awesome to Me.

Long game times. Usually have my games set to 5 ball had to change Munsters to 3.

When people start getting their Premiums I believe there will be less haters.

I have 10 Great Sterns in my gameroom and 2 guests that have come over in past week have played BM66SLE and Munsters LE...other games lonely.

And neither of the 2 were pinheads...Just golf buddies. But they were both older and knew who the Munsters were.

hoby1 how many games have you played on Munsters? If it's a dream theme maybe play some more if it's not then maybe just move on.after about 40-50 games at the bar I was a bit let down but then it started to click with me and by 100 I was loving it.is it my favorite pin?no but I have no desire to sell it.it's a great counter to my xmen le(my only post 2001 Sterns). I don't get mad at the haters on this one not every pin is for every person and Munsters is probably a little above the average as most nib buyers are looking for a deeper mode based game for their 6-9000.

There is a lot more code/rework coming from what I heard

Love it when a pin starts clicking

I doubt that the poll is going to be very favorable in a Munsters hate thread lol. I have a feeling that once you put a few games on it hoby that you are going to change your mind.

Once you do that and start liking it then you can start your Munsters apoligy thread.

Just ribbing you dude !

Hey he deserves a good ribbing so let him have it. Hoby1 is a great great guy and i like him a lot but he crossed the line shitting on my Munsters like he did! Paybacks are going to be a Bitch for this!

Game is fun and the code isn't bad hoby. Don't listen to all the negative Nancy's around here! Its a fun game.

Have you played it with the newest code ? Its more difficult and the levels vary and there is now a mini madness mode and a main madness mode after you get threw level 2 stuff. I've only made it to the mini wizard mode once in 60 games with new code..and no where near the full madness mode.

You clearly never saw launch Batman '66. Munsters is incomplete but nowhere near as bad as BM'66 for the first 12-18 months.

Really long ball times? My pro has the shortest ball times of all my current pins except bsd ...and they are similar. Guess it depends how your pins are set up.and how you approach them.also. ..
But mine is dam brutal...

Not on the route I help with. First two weeks were very good from sampling, then dropped off a cliff.

Pro?

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Thats a fact there now! Remember they had it at one of the pinball shows and they wouldnt even ket anyone play it because it had no code? The damn lights turned on and that was it pretty much....they wouldn't even plunge a ball.

You have to have the ability to see the future greatness in a pin.

Thus far, despite selling some, never regretted a purchase.

Lyman is about a guarantee as there is. He’s the best ever. Love Keith too but Lyman is pure magic

Lyman took a basic BM66 layout and turned it into another masterpiece

Wow OP.

Didn’t get what you wanted so go cry to the world.

Grow up man!

If it’s not for you that’s OK state that in the other threads. But to open up a single hate thread... wow...speaks volumes.

—>Bunch of softy down voters - give them a ribbon for participation!

Remember this is a Dwight game

Yeah, Pro. The original plan was to get a Pro and run that for 6-8 weeks until the Premiums shipped then upgrade it. That plan has been scrapped. We upgraded the Iron Maiden to a Premium instead.

I don’t agree with hoby on his thoughts on Munsters but he is a stand up guy and he is great for this hobby.

Then tell him to close this thread and be stand up - right?

I finally played one today (LE), I didn't really care for it. To each their own though, I'm sure plenty of people enjoy it.