hi all

i am over munsters. what a waste of a game. massive disappointment. total sh!t!!!!!! the game has everything to be great and what a pos for the code. nothing exciting nothing make u feel like you want to play more. hey finished level 1. oh great what does level 2 have. wtf its the same as level one. BS!!!!! wait every character is the same for shots major BS!!!!!! wth stern. a 5 year old could have made better rules than that sh!t!!!!

its garbage code. herman. ramps and orbits, grandpa ramps and orbits, spot left ramp, raven ramps and orbits, lilly just hit anything. its worse than jetsons, its the worse code period. SW was fun and deep. munsters is sh!t!!!!!!! what a waste of my money. i cant wait to get rid of this turd of a game.

i get that they simpler code. so i wasnt expecting bm66 level or SW level of deepness. this is a major step backwards. 80s level of code. hell 70s level of code. i shouldnt be able to see everything a game has to offer on 3 balls. game had the potential to be amazing. if i wanted 80s level of code i damn sure wouldnt have spent that money on a new game. i would have bought an early stern for way less money and with far less level of disappointment.

stern could easily fix this. make a real set of rules. i will do it for them for free. Stern if your listening send me a PM. I will right up a real set of rules for this game.

setting it up steep, outlanes or playing with your eyes closed doesnt make the code better. its still the same shots over and over. nothing feels different or even a drive to play it again. IMdn code is chopping wood. Same crap. Never put a number to anything you have to hit. it makes the game turn into.... oh i need 8 ramps oh i need 10 orbits. so on and so on. no desire or want to complete anything other than oh i have to hit so many ramps. I can rant on and on on why IMdn suxs too. I am not a point chaser and that doesnt drive me to play a game or spend my money.

i am going to play deadpool this weekend and will probably be dumping Munsters as fast as i can. I agree with KISS code. It is a lot of fun now. If stern can fix it in the next decade i will play munsters again. but after this weekend i will fold it up and sell it.

I played it first. enjoyed the code with hopes of it getting better. stayed flat.

I hate all of the MM, CV, MB, CC, AFM era of games. those games are not for me.

Here is the thing. I have owned MMr and beat it. Played CV many many times. I get why people like them but they are not the games for me. I do like Munsters as I said before. It has everything I want in the game except the code. The code of it has no drive at all. There is no OMG i reached this level feeling ever in that game. Hand of the King - awesome, destroy the death star - awesome, defeat smaug - awesome, Horde - awesome. Those are all amazing moments in those games. can you honestly say munster madness is awesome? its fun for an 80s game.

i get all of what your saying. but its just missing a lot. chase jackpots. ok. thats it? 6x multilier and cash in. ok. but still no moments. i use to like simple code like BoP, pinbot and data east games. But even BoP had a moment when u get to the billionares club.

I love borgs stuff. A point chaser game does nothing for me. Sounds are great, artwork amazing, shots are buttery smooth. I am just very disappointed in the lack of code.

sorry to rant on and on.

strummy i have played the snot out of those games. old hat. i get why people love them. i am just over them.

i love the theme, shots, art etc. I am patient with code development. I understand it takes time to polish a game. I have BM66. That took a couple of years to become an amazing game. the development of this code has been very poor. .98 to .99 pointless. so close to being 1.0 with little to no previous updates that are worth anything beyond release code.

There is no accomplishments. no real purpose in playing anything for anything beside points. the same sound effects for every mode. the same "no ending" for every mode. 75% of the game is copy and paste. level2 is the same as level 1. 3/5 of the level modes (herman, raven, grandpa) are basically the same.

its a flip for points game. nothing else. nothing different than an EM with a color display. I had an iron man. Code is simple but far more fun in 1 mode than the entire code of munsters. The munster madness feels pointless. no achievements no different sounds no different effects no point in getting there.

There is no connection in game play and theme. All of those episodes and nothing? come on dragula should be a mode in itself. a drag race of hitting alternate ramps and you get gramps to the end you get a big bonus. its not very difficult to think of these things. it just wasnt and wont be done.

Heck throw in a commercial break bonus.

I am not bashing what people like. there are games for everyone. to me this game is pointless other than to flip to get points. I could play an episode of welcome back carter and would be no different.

I think with more games being in the home market they have to be somewhat deeper than munsters. the entire ruleset can be put on that little card on the apron. Thats ok for a system 11 game ok for a data east etc. but there is nothing in this game that makes you feel like you are part of that world. nothing. what ever you do in the game has no risk, no reward, no failure, no success, no change in the sound effects, or anything else. It is solely relying on the shots and art. there isnt taf qoutes to enjoy.

lmao yes i noticed after i posted my grammatical error. i will take full responsibility for that lol. A lot of people have not read what i was saying so let me break it down in a list.

Good:
amazing art
great sound
shots are buttery smooth
great theme
great mechanics
an amazing physical game

Bad:
the player is not integrated in the game
no story line
no purpose for making a shot
no change in sounds
no risk vs reward
its rinse and repeat for 75% of the game
There are no "moments" of success in the game

If you took the same code and put it to any game you would think it sucks. Imagine if the code to TAF was this way. shoot a ramp. oh you got gomez. shoot a ramps and orbits for points. oh shoot fester. now shoot ramps and orbits. No integration no purpose and no point to shoot anything.

Every game from high speed forward has a story line and a goal you are reaching based on that story line. Sadly there is not that in Munster.

I wish there was in munsters. Honestly i do. There is no point in debating someones opinion. This is just my opinion. If you agree to it then is cool. if you dont agree to it then it is also cool.

sadly thats the only risk vs reward.

i would feel tons better about the code if there was a purpose to anything other than shot this or that for points. That is very elementary.

Dragula for example. how much more fun would that be if during dragula you were playing as grandpa and you had to win the race to get the family car back. the race starts when the ball is launched and you had to hit ramps to go faster and beat the other person. when you hit a ramp a new sound effect. u hit a stand up grandpa yells out of frustration. u hit herman and he screams out go grandpa faster. then at the end of the race you hit the grandpa scoop. If you fail the character on screen taunts you and lilly says better luck next time grandpa.

Simple to do. But it just wasnt done.

sadly i am bummed too.

sadly what you do in munsters u basically do in any game that you dont know how to play. just shoot stuff and get points.

its at .99 .98 to .99 was pointless. i hope the code does get amazing. like you said "the game has too much going for it" but its coded status is sad.

lmao too funny. hugs are always awesome.

nope that is incorrect lol. anyone can reach the "wizard" mode on this. zizzle all the way!!!!

I am 100% with you Wotto. With that price tag we as buyers deserve more. I dont mind shallow code on a game from the 80s that only cost 1k. You can accept that for the price that is paid and when the game was made. But to todays standards it doesnt add up.

Its like creating a flip phone in a 10th generation smart phone era and charging the same price.

Then the arguement of ... this flip phone is great. best phone ever. Then the reality is that yeah might be great if you like flip phones that just make a call, but you can make a call on a smart phone that does 1000 more things for the same price.

yes they are and very rewarding and a major part of the game. one of the reasons why i love twd game. kicks my butt but its a fair fight.

I was truly hoping to be wrong on this title. but 1.0 code dropped today and it was shill. what a total waste. it comes across as they only paid for the license of 1 commercial and that is all there is. Would have been better as a something like "primus" pin. I guess the best you can hope for is either a total revamp of the code or a reuse of the layout.

yes it delivered 80s level of simple code. like bally 8 ball. you can see everything the game has to offer in a couple games. simple code can be good. but it falls extremely short in comparison to any game stern has released in the past 20 years. Short on call outs, code, theme integration, and any sort of mode.

It did succeed in looks, shots and is fun to shoot. but for the price it is extremely short of any recent game.

It has the potential to be amazing. can all be fixed in the coding but nothing was done.

LoL motherload of code lol unhuh. nothing new but topper code and easter eggs in the credits. sad so sad.

how about this. u have an 80s version of the code and then u make a modern version of the code that uses more assets and has strategy. implement anything that anyone has posted on how to make it better. then the player can choose what version of code they want to play.

maybe stern can make lemonade out of this lemon.

after watching the making of video its hard to see how they could watch all of 70 episodes and an Easter special and only walk away with a handful of assets. Every stern person was excited. but are they drinking the Kool Aid? are their eyes shut due to the "its fun to shoot" statements. they have been playing pinball for years and no one said that the code and asset usage suck?

I agree with yoko. put in a difficulty selection. beginner with tutorial or anything.

Aurich you are right. dwight has done some good things in the past. but with that a buyer has expectations. he has done a fair to great in the past. why would one assume less than that? But sadly i will say that this was a long distance dialed in attempt. maybe his choice maybe it was sterns. maybe cutting out testing who knows. but we do know the finished product. and its a pretty box of lights.

There also has to be a purpose for being the player. Lets take BKSoR. your purpose is to beat the knight. what is the purpose of munsters? that is the most basic of concepts but munsters doesnt even have that. if i missed it can someone explain it. it has to be something other than points.

I hope Stern isnt looking at this with the Newspaper mentality of who cares we will make another one and people will keep buying it. Its not difficult decision to make the code better. It is the admittance of ... oh yeah umm sorry we totally missed the mark.

i agree that there should be a lot more to the code. munsters code is still shallow compared to MM, MB, AFM, TAF, TOM, and TOTAN. a great game is approachable by all and has enough for players. For the average person to spend 5 bucks on a game and will see everything it has to offer just isnt what the bar is at now. maybe in 1970 but falls short of any game or manufactures standard.

Gottlieb did it with surfin safari. going back to the basics. it didnt work out for them back then either. It would have been better if they didnt use Munsters as a theme at all. Called it anything but munsters. Then invest the resources in making a real munsters game.

all in all if its fun for you sure thats fine. my opinion is that it is a total waste of theme and is a called in effort. Far below every standard in DMD history of pinball.

i like iron man. had one. thought it was great. knew my objectives knew my role and had a blast. i reached do or die and had a blast. then saw that the next level was do it all on 1 ball. I was hoping for more but to do it all one 1 ball kinda left me feel like umm ok but shouldnt there be more? it eventually left because of that. u can do that personally with any game. i still enjoyed it way more than Munsters.

I kinda wished they just called the game Jackpot rather than munsters. You fell 0 integration with the theme.

well i think this brings up a larger point about rating pins and really the top 100 pins on this forum. i never gave any value tp thr top as there are not any ratings on specific items. its just a popularity list.

games should be approachable. i always felt that there should be some level of succes by an newbie but also have enougj depth to keep a better player to come back for more. theme, soundx animation and also the rating of skill level of the player.

when i was a noob i loved data east and BOP was dream game. when i got better my taste changed in what I enjoyed.

lol actually yes. i was a big video game collector and bought my fist pin as a noob. i was never around pins growing up. my first 3 pins were tftc, bk2k and potc.

i have improved a lot since those days.

well its a response. wish it had more detail

there are 2 things i can hope for at this point

1. total revamp of the game
2. hope that the layout and ramps are reused in another theme

lol people love those games. but they are not a games that will challenge me to play better. easy shots that they run into the ground

lol

we all want stern to fix this. its a simple solution. a truthful answer from them is all we want. no marketing political bs answer.

I havent had a chance to play ACNC. I should get a chance in the next couple of weeks. From my observations it is 100 times better than Munsters code wise.

I will give a better review once i have actually played it.

I did revisit munsters over the weekend. yep my feelings are still the same. Fun to shoot but over it quickly. The place I went to had these pins: DeadPool (pro), Star Wars (pro), Monster Bash, Munsters (pro), BM66 (premium) and Ghostbuster(LE). The clientele was a mix from 6 to 55. Overall a good mix of people. DeadPool and Ghostbusterswere get most plays. Munster bash was next to last and Munsters got very little play.

Ben Heck - I do see your point as it is a theme for older generations. It is not a future proof theme but it is a theme that reaches a target market that is older and has the money and space to own a pinball game. We all would love a timeless theme like Harry Potter or even Pokemon or a Nintendo theme.

this is what i initially stated about the code. 75% of the game is rinse and repeat. you basically do the same thing for every character in the game except lilly which is an uninspired switch hit mode.

I retried it over a month later and still meh. watched a video of a much better player who scored 800 million on it and it was still meh. call outs get really bad after hearing them so many times.

It should have been a game show theme called jackpot because that is the only thing to do. get jackpots.

meh meh meh oh yeah meh

i hope elvira is a hit. bm66 turned out awesome. wasnt a big fan of beatles. elvira has the potential to be another great game.

i am only buying after i see what the 1.0 code offers. deadpool is great and i will be on the look out for a bksor.

waiting al to see how jp is after i play it