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The Munsters Hype (Because every evening its Halloween)

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2 years ago

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Post #550 Munsters Premium and LE cabinet art Posted by pinsanity (2 years ago)

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#44 2 years ago
Quoted from J85M:

If it’s happening Munsters will likely be a cornerstone title Pro, Prem & LE, with the SLE saved for Beatles, after all Beatles licensing is known to be notoriously expensive and those SLEs make up a big slice of the profit pie!

Apparently Borg wanted to do a Munsters SLE to pack more stuff into the game but not happening.

Agree that Beatles HAS to be the SLE title.

Munsters was down for TPF 19 but link has now been removed. Think that was on TWIP.

#51 2 years ago
Quoted from hank527:

Im in, but Lonnie on code would kill it for me as well.

Lonnie code can be great but the issue is that his games just don't get finished.

KISS and AS particularly.

3 months later
#360 2 years ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

Both cabinet art packages look good and a little like they could have been done by different artists.
Premium - they took a lot of liberties with proportion and physics, to where I can't easily look past the right side. Herman's body is too small, Marilyn's head and bust are too big and she is holding a picnic basket over edge of vehicle (why not put it on the floor)? Lily's head and body are too big and must be standing on the running boards if not floating in air.
Saving grace is art is different on sides (been a long time coming Stern), it contains all the iconic scenes we want to see, the style of line art is striking and complementing colors are a great choice.[quoted image]

Are these pics of the real game?

Better save quickly if so....

Where did the LE pics go?

#366 2 years ago

I think they were genuine - they disappeared VERY quickly.

#371 2 years ago
Quoted from chad:

With Dead Pool just out a three weeks or so. Would Stern already have the photo shoot finished for the next game??? Seems early....

Yes, as they were clearly not of actual games but how they are going to look.

#381 2 years ago

Premium looks really sweet.

I didn't see the LE.

There is no way on earth these pics were accidentally leaked by Stern so they are unlikely to be reposted on pinside anytime soon.

#433 2 years ago

Thinking Munsters LE has got a bit of TAF Gold vibe about it.

Stern are going to have a huge hit with this game as if you own a TAF , how can you not put a Munsters next to it?!

#450 2 years ago

I think everyone who saw them wishes they had been quicker and saved them.

With MBR about to be released, kind of wondering if it was deliberate leak? Not Stern's style but anyone thinking of buying an MBR or Munsters maybe needs to wait for the release as this could be TAF 2.0.

#566 2 years ago
Quoted from pinsanity:

Of course it was. He has the largest podcast listening base by a wide margin so it makes sense from a strategic sales point.
Only part more funny in this thread are the also rans trying to steal his thunder with subterfuge.

Hmmm, does anyone think Stern would involve K in this kind of marketing strategy?

K was very unhappy at being blocked by Stern ( cancelled interviews etc ), and he did infer in a podcast that he could have a pop at them.

If this is the case, this won't end well!

#568 2 years ago
Quoted from singapore_pin:

I don't think it was Kaneda, although Stern will happily blame him to justify the punitive ban of his podcast.
In my opinion is pure marketing from Stern just to kill the growing hype on the "new and shinny toy" MBr and some of the sales of Pirates.
Musters was the worst kept secret in the industry, at this stage a leak could only benefit them.

Could be.

And at last Munsters Gold LE really does look like an LE.

#716 2 years ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

I hear you. Could be like Batman66, you only can look at it, not play it.

No way will Stern do that again!

This is a Stern game, not a Kapow.

Expect all guns a blazin at Expo

3 weeks later
#953 2 years ago

Yeah, KISS is just fun and makes you smile while playing, unlike so many other games.

1 week later
#1156 2 years ago

Not sure if this a joke or being a Stern Classic, maybe for real?!

#1181 2 years ago
Quoted from jwilson:

You idiots realize he was kidding, right?

Are you sure about that?!

I guess we will find out who eats crow in a few months time

2 weeks later
#1338 2 years ago
Quoted from NoQuarters:

No marketing BS - it's a theme John has wanted to do since 2009 .... This is going to be really good !
Photos sometime after Expo and probably before the month is out .

Wednesday 31st October seems like obvious date for a reveal of some sort.

3 weeks later
#1768 2 years ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

How does a thread like this get started without any evidence this game is ever coming out? I see people here selling their mothers and pets here for a vapor pin.
Maybe I should start a rumor thread about a Pin that will never come out based on Porno Actresses. As least the faked cabinet art will be enjoyable to look at. ‍♂️

Ok, bet you $100 Munsters is on it's way!

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#2014 2 years ago

Wonder how long these pics will last for?

Already saved

#2020 2 years ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

Obviously fake, look at all the pixels!

No way is this fake!

#2023 2 years ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

You think? I was about to post it looks exactly like the Monster Bash layout, especially when you see the ramp return wireforms

Munster Bash?

#2032 2 years ago

I like the idea of stacking the 9 super jackpots and then gambling, using the zap button.

3 weeks later
#2783 2 years ago
Quoted from NoQuarters:

Have heard this also. Supposed to be his best shooting game yet.

I can believe this as the ramps look like they may be a tad wider than on his other games?

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#2826 2 years ago
Quoted from pinmister:

So looks like Munsters is going to officially be a '2019' title, first week of January would be my guess for announcement. Really curious to see what they do with underside playfield on Premium/LE.
Have to appreciate Stern's new game launches....No info and tight lips-games built and shipped, leaked sub-par photos, and then boom-games on location and in collectors homes. No bullshit-take it or leave it-I love it!

I reckon we get a teaser video before end of December.

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#3046 2 years ago

I still think Monday 31st for teaser.

Zach hinted on H2H.

#3267 2 years ago
Quoted from cooked71:

Exactly. The pinball collectors who really wanted Beatles have already been “looked after” by their distributors and bought a Diamond or Platinum.
That leaves a lot of Golds to sell to these mysterious non-pinball Beatles fans that still want to pay $8k for a toy. That requires a completely different marketing and distribution chanel. I’m not sure Sterns existing distributors are capable of reaching these mysterious buyers. Is the in house Stern marketing team capable? Maybe Kapow?
Unless they slash the price the remaining Beatles will be a slooooow burn.

Gold needs to be $5999 and they will sell out.

Price is so insane, I haven't given this game any thought at all, which is a first for me

#3419 2 years ago
Quoted from Puffdanny:

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How can you have a haunted look, when everything becomes bright, bright and more bright?

Why did 'ambience' fall out of fashion?

#3781 2 years ago
Quoted from Bublehead:

Ok, how the phunk does anyone know about ramps and wireforms on the lower pf?!? Pics or its all bull$pit.

I do wonder if you get a kick out of saying something controversial and collecting downvotes. Oh to be THAT cool

#3803 2 years ago
Quoted from Yoko2una:

I think it's awesome they're taking an artistic "risk" here. If you don't like the B&W Premium, guess what, you're actually not obligated to buy one! And you know once all LE's are shipped, they'll release a color Premium or maybe Vault one down the road.
I personally hope the B&W PF looks as nice as the cabinet and then a lot of people buy it... and then because all the anti-B&W people won't ever own one, that I can scoop up a B&W Premium on the cheapy in the 2nd hand market.


More choice is better.

Everyone used to complain about cookie cutter art and now there is a chance for something unique.

As ever though, does depend on execution.

#3846 2 years ago

The ignore button is my new friend today

#4560 2 years ago
Quoted from Kkuoppamaki:

Ok, quick follow-up. I managed to get two games on the pro today so here are my quick thoughts on that. I'm usually leaning towards premium versions myself (with few exceptions, like GoT) but I have to say this one was very nice. I haven't looked at the actual differences between the models, but it the only meaningful difference is the lower playfield, I'd say pro is a good version to go for. Don't get me wrong, the lower playfield is nice, but it introduces an element of stop and go (while you wait for it to start) and it's a bit of a complication i.e. it's makes control harder and despite the ramps etc it's probably in the long run not that exciting.
With that, it felt like the pro version was a players game without too many compromises or missing features. I still like it a lot, but have a concern that better players might find it too easy. As I said I'm not a good player, but on my first pro play I managed to get to Munsters of rock (you can see that game on the dead flip pro version stream at around 2:56 mark).
If I were to purchase this pin, and I very well may, I'd definitely consider the pro version. Lot's of action and fun to play

So, is Munsters of Rock the end of the game?

Seems like a pretty short/concise set of rules, compared to other Sterns.

Nothing wrong with that if it's kind of like Iron Man but it doesn't seem to be this way.

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#4946 2 years ago

If this is true, demand has caught them by surprise and they have left money on the table.

Still find it hard to believe they really have increased to 600.

It's only a podcast rumor!

#5026 2 years ago

Stern are a business and want to make as much profit as possible.

Whilst it makes no real difference to add another 100 LE, can't help thinking that it is a little disingenuous.

#5043 2 years ago

True, Stern have done all this kind of stuff before and over the years, so many times have we heard 'I will never buy a Stern again....'

And then, oh, a new shiny.

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#5302 2 years ago
Quoted from J85M:

Wakky either trys really really hard to misdirect everyone (saying Deadpool wasn’t next, munsters wasn’t happening etc etc) is just trolling us or he’s the factory floor cleaner and doesn’t have a clue beyond that.

He does a great job as he is always wrong

#5396 2 years ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

If it ends up being to easy open the out lanes up some and limit extra balls. From the people that played it on the stern stream (good players) it looked like it cld b brutal but then u wld have that one good game every now and then. No one really got into level 2

Seems like Munsters Madness level 1 is easy to get to.

Level 2 is not.

The question should be, is it fun trying to get to level 2?

Seems similar to MB - easy first mini-wizard mode.

Not sure why the second wizard mode ( level 2 ) doesn't have it's own insert and called something else?

#5483 2 years ago

Hadn't noticed those huge targets.

Man, there is cost cutting and there is cost cutting!!

#5570 2 years ago

And to think in 1951 Gottlieb's Minstrel Man had a stand up target with a drop target behind it!

In Wayne Neyens interview he said that he always put more stuff in a game, because the accountant would always try and get him to remove stuff.

Seems like, nothing changes!

If say, having one target instead of several, that could be a saving of $20 per game. If they sell 3000, that's over half a million bucks.

#5594 2 years ago
Quoted from Whysnow:

There is zero doubt that the large targets are cost cutting (both the BOM and assembly time and programming for fewer switches)
The large targets are not as fun to shoot at either.
This is just another thing that Stern has been doing to see what the community pushes back on. They started with one big target on a few games and now we get 2.

If I was on the fence those targets would be a deal breaker for sure.

#5610 2 years ago

Over time, it will be more and more clear, just how good Iron Maiden is.

I really hope a better game comes out in next year or two.

Maybe Keith's next game?

Munsters is aiming for a slightly different target audience and that makes sense.

#5877 2 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Two of my favorites of all time, TWD and BM66 got BLOWN UP at the outset.
I was a true believer from Day one. A common denominator on those two however is Lyman Sheets.
Despite a great theme, art and what appears to be a fun and unique layout, that "bugger" Neil from the UK doesn't like it, at all, and that worries me a bit.
However, I've got high hopes based on what I've seen.
MBrLE and TSPP are on the way as well so fun times!

I have spoken to a lot of people who have played the game.

I think at the moment, if you are a pretty good player, it will disappoint.

But, if you are pretty average, you will enjoy.

And friends and family will maybe enjoy it more than usual, due to simplicity.

Looking at the targets, ramps, and theme, maybe the idea was to target a slightly different audience? More of a beginners pin?

Makes sense?

#6044 2 years ago
Quoted from jfh:

I loved the idea of MB. I kept an original NOS playfield from 1998/1999 for years. Finally had the playfield cleared and had a fantastic restoration done. The game was a crown jewel in my game room. It didn’t last much more than six months. It was beautiful, I loved the music, but it was just so shallow. And I’m not a very good player. Sold one of the nicest MBs that probably exist and don’t regret it for a second.
I think Munsters is shallow (currently) but I would absolutely choose it over MB/MBR

If the game is set up hard, well, it becomes a different game.

Outlanes full out.

Most important - very tight tilt.

If that isn't enough, reduce extra balls.

Getting MOR when set up like this is very very hard.

#6136 2 years ago
Quoted from Squizz:

If Stern wanted to get the new and younger people into pinball, Munstes was a bad decision!
Maybe they should have released Toy Story if they want simple-easy for that style of code

Yeah, it's certainly a middle aged theme but Stern knows their demographic. This is not a title to entice the younger generation.

As for rules.

Don't expect major adjustments as unlike GOTG that bombed initially because of unfinished code, this game has sold a ton.

And it's a Dwight game, so whilst there will be updates and things added, can't see any major changes really.

Not every game needs to be as hard as nails, so this seems to be a 'nostalgic beginner's pin' so take it for what it is!

#6220 2 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

Love how they call the Lily monobar a "Lily Bank." You can't have ONE giant, ugly, cost-saving rectangle be a "bank" unless you're talking about where that cost reduction money went at Stern.

If this is going to be on new Stern's going forward, no way am I buying a NIB.

You can take that to the bank

#6632 2 years ago
Quoted from vireland:

That's my impulse, but it's weird that it's off by so much and no one caught it on the line.

Same thing on my Maiden.

I had to adjust on day 1.

#6673 2 years ago
Quoted from J85M:

Don’t get me wrong I love me some Stern, check my collection for proof of that but we are in 2019.
We really shouldn’t still be grateful that we get RGB lighting, in this day and age with a consumer tech, it should be standard at this point.

It's strange that AC/DC ( 2012 ) has better lighting than a lot of the more modern games.

#7045 2 years ago

Minsters pro is pretty stripped down, but the LCD and art kind of make up for this and/or deflect from what's really there.

Really a lot of people buy Stern's because they love theme, and code is usually so much better than it used to be.

And there is no competition for Stern at the pro price point.

But, there is nothing new or innovative on this game. But Stern don't really need to increase BOM when they are selling like hot cakes!

#7131 2 years ago
Quoted from Tranquilize:

Put some time on the pro tonight. The music, LCD and art package are awesome. Gameplay was old hat Borg to the extreme, with the meaningless side shots being the biggest disappointment. I heard it was shallow, but it is crazy shallow. Zap and jackpots are cool, but that can only take the game so far. Spot is neat but kills flow. Aside from that, you get one magnet bash... All time worst for toys. Definitely will play it on route, but unlike many who have posted the opposite here, I'm glad I listened to the nay-sayers. I'd be very unhappy if I bought this machine. Clearly many others see it differently. Just my two cents.

Stern don't really do toys anymore.

Maiden pro is a fantastic game but not if you like old school toys!

#7148 2 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

How many bad Borg tables are there in your opinion? Also you do realize that there is only so much that a designer can do on a pinball playfield due to the limited area that he has to work with right? I dont know what people expect honestly. Every game that comes out people are like....yep more of the same, 2 ramps, 2 orbits, yada yada yada. Well thats kind of all a designer can do honestly, thats just what pinball is lol. Theres not much real estate to work with on a pinball playfield.

A great designer is able to come up with new innovative ideas.

Check out Wayne Neyens the designer.

Nearly every design in the 50's was fresh, different, unique.

#7173 2 years ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

Some people are just never happy i guess, we see the same thing on every game that launches. Im just going to play all of my games and enjoy this hobby as much as i can. If pinball was any funner i dont know what i would do with myself.

We all love pinball.

The thing is that over the years Stern have made big changes, based on direct feedback.

They even got rid of those stupid pegs because enough people complained about it!

There needs to be a mixture of praise and constructive criticism or we won't get some of these small improvements.

Nothing to do with being happy or unhappy!!!

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#7569 2 years ago
Quoted from snaroff:

Not sure what AC/DC has to do with it, but it's the first-time Stern has released a game with powder-coated legs without matching armor. Really odd. From my perspective, the legs and armor should match. Stern really up'd their game with art/artists...don't know why they would make this decision (other than saving a few bucks).

You answered your own question

#7675 2 years ago

Having now played Munsters, to love this game you gotta love the theme.

There just wasn't a wow factor playing the game - nothing really new or innovative.

The ramps are some of the best ever though - super satisfying to hit.

Some games are so good that theme doesn't matter in the end. This is the other side of the coin.

#7829 1 year ago

90% of lower and upper playfields are designed to give a game 'more' but they rarely work.

So many recent games have been a bust in this area.

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#8091 1 year ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

ACNC is a brickfest and will no way in hell be as good as Munsters is. That game shouldn't rank in the top 1 million.

In an ideal world you take the rules and screen animations of AC and the flow/layout of Munsters.

That would be a nice game

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