Quoted from Who-Dey:
I mean seriously, WTF is taking so long to announce this damn game that we already know is coming anyways?
Waiting to reveal at the show, I expect.
Quoted from Amused_to_Death:
Who do I talk to at Stern to make all that happen?
There is currently no online order process for this as they want to ensure order accuracy.
Call Stern's Custom Shop at 1-877-BIG-BUCK(S), press #1 to speak with the consultation officer. From there you will be forwarded to the order desk to pre-pay for your custom pin.
Your build will only be processed after the first allotment of stock pins have been built at which time it can still take and additional 4-8 weeks for delivery.
If there is enough interest, they will consider dedicating resources to process these quicker, that will come at a slight increase in cost however.
I hope that you pull the trigger! Let us know what your experience is like and send pics of the pin!
Quoted from pinmister:
I am looking for complete originality and completely different and unique layouts. Bring back wide-bodies, subways, etc. I would like to see the 'magic' like the Bally/Williams glory days. This copy and paste design technique only adds to the whole 'cookie cutter' term that people tend to use to describe Stern games.
Maybe it's time to check out JJP
Quoted from Aussiepinwiz:
Luci was indeed a premium.
171 were made, and were worth more on the second hand market than the other premiums.
Luci 'Vault' however was produced (as were the other AC/DC vault editions) only a few years after Gary Stern said there would be no more AC/DC machines after the initial 5 year licence to produce expired.
Exactly. Gary/Stern is all business (period).
The whole vault offering is to sell more pins. They won't be running a WWE vault, would anyone be surprised? Vault = sales and sales keep a company in business, not sure why people aren't getting this.
Consider the story behind the new Godzilla license, which is Spooky's dream license. It's heartbreaking that they lost out on that as they would have put their heart and soul into that title. Stern on the other hand... a box with lights, a theme/license which has the potential to sell.
You want to talk integrity, even after losing the license bidding against Stern, Spooky offered to help out as they have a wealth of knowledge on the subject etc... just crickets from Stern. Stern could have easily thrown Spooky a bone here, instead... gave the bone. Stern is all business all the time.
The list of actual buyers who are going to boycott Stern are extremely low and it will have zero impact on Stern's bottom line. The truth is that almost no one will take their marbles (money) and leave the playground. Just look at some of the avatar pics, lots of ego and money here. Even is some get their nose out of joint, they will be back with the next title. I
I appreciate those who dream of or demand integrity, this is not personal, it's just business. The reality is that many here would do the exact same thing.
Maybe they can call it Luxury Edition (LE) and just produce to fill demand and move on to the next title. Until then, when they realize that they have a winner, they will milk it.
Quoted from JodyG:
LOL this isn't the boy scouts. This is a business. Spooky offering to help Stern and not understanding why Stern wouldn't laugh in their face makes me question the business aptitude of the folks over at Spooky.
Stern being all business is my point, hence the increase of LE counts etc... You might have missed that overall message that in my post.
The Spooky reference was simply an example of integrity for those who want to work with a company who still has it. Limited Edition is still limited, at this point. Not sure what business aptitude has to do with the example. To your point, I suppose, I would agree that not everyone in business should be or has the aptitude for business. Again, not sure of the relevancy for Spooky.
While we're on Spooky;
Spooky is small town, family owned, and has a true passion for pinball. They are far and away from Stern and cannot compete with them, yet here they are still churning out pins in very low numbers. I hope that they are able to stick around because this type of business integrity does matter.
Quoted from Sinestro:
Thanks for beating me to it!
Quoted from Who-Dey:
Why on earth do you think that Stern should have thrown a competitor a bone? That would be the dumbest thing in the world to do.
We're all saying the same thing here. It was an example showing that they are all business. So those that are surprised by a change in 'limited' count shouldn't be... because it's all business. If you want integrity, maybe look elsewhere.
Quoted from JodyG:
So you are saying this is an example of lacking integrity? Stern has to answer to their investors, not you or Spooky. Helping your competition out would be detrimental to Stern in every sense. That is actual integrity in the business world. Your use of that word here is quite misplaced. Spooky needs to stop being so naive and keep their mouths shut on their plans in the future if they don't want to get sniped out of the next license.
Dude, forget about Spooky already. I made the reference and not Spooky, and that was in the previous post. The last post that you are quoting me on has no reference to Spooky and actually supports your argument about Stern having to answer to their investors. THEY ARE IN BUSINESS TO SELL PINS!
The use of 'integrity' is in relation to Stern changing a published LE count and a bunch of people being up in arms about it. Pinside members were calling into question Stern's 'integrity'.
Now, when you say 'helping out your competition would be detrimental'. I only have to reference Microsoft's $150M and Apple, but that would be for another day, another discussion.
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