I like the one I am going to buy the best and I poop on the others. Rinse, repeat.

Tftc

Premium is stupid amazing looking.

The foil in the LE side rails, can’t tell if that is just tape or what.

Game is smooth, has tight shots, none feel super easy. Idk wtf I’m doing when playing but I’m really liking it.

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They're doing a stream from the factory on Thursday, with Dwight. I imagine you'll get all the rules and whatnot then, this was just a show stream.

I think it looks really nice, but I would have liked it more if they had gone all out, and used white/clear inserts with colored LEDs instead. If you're gonna do it, then really do it. I feel like it wouldn't have changed anyone's mind, as far as love or hate either way, but it would have made it much more stunning when the black and white came to life in color as the inserts lit up.

I really like the way the colored inserts give a bit of contrast to the B&W PF. Think some colored rubber would look damn snazzy too.

There are little colors peppered throughout, like the text...I personally appreciate some color coding in inserts. Herman's inserts are green (and he's a lock which is traditionally green), Lily is orange, Spot is red, Grandpa is purple, etc. I think clarity is sometimes better than the ability to be ANY color. Some inserts are clear, so those will be multi-colored...and hopefully with just a few being clear, color changes won't be confusing like they can be on some "anything can be any color" games.

I'm digging that black and white. Ramps are pretty cool as well. Gonna have to check out the gameplay on this one.

Best looking Stern LCD visuals to date

Nope. They are nice, but Batman easily wins that award.

The black and white looks excellent. Premium is definitely the one to get.
I hope the lower playfield has a standard size pinball because I hate the little pinball on the Stewie playfield. That really cheapens it.
I’m glad they did the 4 buttons. It’s nice to be able to trap on one playfield while concentrating on the other.

They are smaller than standard. I don't know if they're as small as Stewie's though.

Ok, I played about 6 games today on the premium so here are my first impressions. I did not play the LE or the Pro, so this is just based on the few games on the Premium. I do want to start by saying that I've never watched the Munsters so I have no emotional ties to the theme, but in general monster themes seem to fit the pinball genre pretty well. Also, I'm an average player at best (and even that's probably giving myself a bit too much credit) but have played most solid state pins to have an opinion on what I like. With that, here goes

I really liked the B&W Premium, next to the LE for some reason it seemed to work better with the theme. I know it's not for everyone, but definitely not bad and even the colored inserts didn't seem to be in conflict with the black and white theme. They layout of the playfield was great, the ramp shots were smooth and not too hard, and there was a lot (and I mean A LOT) to shoot.

The toys were well designed, although I have to wonder how easy it'll be to maintain the lower pf as it was packed with ramps and switches and stuff. Accessing the lower pf was not infrequent or hard, I think in one game I must have made it there like 5 times. The timer dictates how long you can stay there, and making ramp shots added time to the timer.

The game does a good job in guiding what to shoot and what to do next. There are several modes to go after, although I didn't quite get the hang of the rules based on just a few games. It felt to me that the ball times were long (again, in reference to my mediocre skills at best) and I even made it to the Munsters of Rock in one game. Granted, it was just code version 0.90, but if I can make it to the wizard mode then not sure what that means to the more skilled players.

I liked the multiballs, and there was one even on the lower playfield. I even got to a point where I had a multiball going on both playfield at the same time. Total mayhem, and impossible to control so I just kept on double flipping all 4 buttons at the same time. I think it'll take a little bit of practice to be able to control both pf's at the same time

I didn't really pay attention too much to the animations or call outs, but the animations that I saw seemed fitting to the theme and well made. The noise at CES prevented from really hearing the music or call outs so can't comment on that.

In a nutshell, I really liked it. Fun layout and plenty to shoot but I had to wonder what the long ball times mean for lastability or fun for better players

Well I really like the look of the Premium. Am I missing something or is Marilyn not on the backglass of the Premium model?

Yeah, I'm not talking RGB lights, I mean put a green LED in Herman, orange in Lily etc. RGB is a whole different beast, wouldn't work with the code, more expense etc.

They look to be bigger than Stewie's, but smaller than standard.

Speculating here as well but I think this title won't touch GB in sales. This theme does not have that net like GB does. GB grabs 30-40 year olds like me, and older guys AND younger. Munsters? No way.

Would love to revisit this and see how it falls out.

After going over the feature matrix, it's clear that the only mechanical difference between the Pro and the Premium is the lower playfield and its extra flipper buttons. No other mechs are compromised. Even the playfield and GI lighting are exactly the same.

It's not your average lower playfield. They have done an outstanding job, and it seems worthy of the Premium's uncharge.

That being said, if you don't like lower playfields, Munsters will be one hell of a solid Pro for you.

GB went into Stern's archive at the end of last year, prior to the usual 3 year run. Perhaps sales weren't as good as initially thought.

I am looking to Thursday’s Dead Flip for more in depth review of each game. I’m intrigued by the Premium but need to see the playfield fully lit up during gameplay. The sound effects, music, voices and laugh tracks together all seemed a bit much and a little grating after awhile. All in all it looked like a pretty good shooter.

Ordered the LE
This theme kills because well,it’s tge Munsters.
Addams Family-great fucking game wish I had it.
BUT 50 cool points taken off for being based on the movie imo.

There is no Disney Munsters to make you hate “the new Munsters “ or some crap.

Great great theme LE with the coffin cab WOW
Go right next to BSD
All I want to know is does DRAGULA move????

OK - I thought I heard GB was one of their best sellers ever. Maybe I misheard.

Wonder if you can get magic glass for the lower PF?

I love the LE art, but can see the appeal of the Premium also. Pro cant be faulted but is a little generic- like every other good Stern package recently (OK, now im looking for faults). A little bit torn between the LE and Premium, but I think the LE has it for me just because it's really unique.

I wonder if the original plan was to have the LE cab with the B&W playfield? That would be amazing also. Do you think theyd build one for me if I asked?

Anyway, spoilt for choice here. Only minor complaint on the LE is I wish they'd done the web siderails in the reverse colour - so all gold with black inserts, and gold lockdown to match. That would look freaking awesome. Might have to do that myself when I get it.

I think you’re correct. This game may sell well but it won’t sell GB or Met well. Also, I think the price to get it in your door NIB is substantially higher now than it was when GB was released (be that the result of the MAP forcing standardized prices, the general price increases, or the sales tax issue being discussed in the other thread - or a combination of all three - the price is substantially higher than three years ago).

Heck while your at it, so would a color playfield.

I knew I'd love the B&W, but surprisingly, I prefer the LE.

I don't trust Stern with code and quality of mechs, and I'm really bummed about it. I'd be all over that LE. I think this is one of the best, if not the best, lower PFs I've ever seen. LE in a year or so if code is even done by then. I'll also have to browse the Munsters Issues thread to see if the mechs are crap.

Don't you mean 1000 cool points added for custom callouts by the actors, one of the greatest losses to contemporary pinball???

Find someone that wants a premium with color and just swap playfields!

You both have a 1 of a kind!

Me2 LE

From watching the gameplay of the LE the green and purple LED lights pretty much wash out any other colors on the playfield so I'm thinking Black & White might actually show up better than the color playfields on the Pro & LE.

These colors are always massively blown out on video/images so without seeing it in person I bet it's hard to truly tell

I didn't watch the series much, caught some in syndication: was there anything in the series related to time? Seems like this is a theme that would be fun to have a Midnight Madness mode. Wonder if there's one.

Yeah I gotta say this is a great effort and a killer design for a Stern Pinball. Can't wait to play one!

Any comments on plastic above lower playfield. Looks similar to AC/DC Premium VE - same method of securing plastic with screws (& black border).

Some folks were worried about this in acdc - is this a non issue?

I have to give you two thumbs way up! for your comment Cooked71, you just make me think about a L.E. again and I just wrote to my distributor a couple of things thanks to you mate!.... nothing is impossible, and if they say no, that’s ok anyway.

Regards

Oh boy, which to choose?! Overall art package, I think the Premium wins, and I probably would have just gone for it... but... then I saw that it’s still got a full-color LCD. I can’t say that I like the looks of the B&W everywhere else, but not on the display. Really, I’m not sure that I like the color on the LCD at all. Not when it keeps transitioning to B&W show scenes. I guess this has me leaning more towards the LE, which is where I was at in the first place, except that I was hoping the LE was going to end up being the B&W one based on the leaked cabinet art. LOL! Ugh! Decisions!

While I wrestle with my choice, I’m newly relocated to Orlando/Disney, anyone want to recommend a good dealer/distributor that might not be too far away?

That's not a Stern question... that's a question that depends on what state you live or buy in, and what their plans are for forcing out of state sellers to collect tax.

Little Shop of Games is the distro near there. You just missed the Orlando show. The one in JAX is in March.

The ball would get caught on the lip a lot... but to make a replaceable pf window you kinda have to have it :/

The cabinet has green logos. The playfield has color text, inserts, and lights. The clips on the LCD are B&W with some subtle mostly monochrome color. It all works together quite well - it’s not going to feel out of place at all.

Im still sitting here blown away at how awesome that Chris Franchi made this black and white art package look. I mean seriously, how the hell do you make a black and white pinball machine look so bad ass?

I was bummed when i heard the Premium was black and white because thats the model i want. Ive been excited about this game for a long long time and Munsters is one of my dream themes and this morning the excitement was gone for me because of the black and white premium. I felt like a kid who didnt get the toy he wanted on Christmas day........then i seen pics of the Premium and was like Holy shiiiiiiit!! Happy again!

Chris Franchi.....you da man brother! I don't know how you pulled it off but you did it and you did it extremely well!

cool looking games and surprised the Premium was black and white - massive difference between pro and premium in so many ways

nice work Stern

Actually Batman 66 is Stern’s best selling table of all time, we’ve been told.

Not sure if you are joking or not butt,

ACDC is Sterns best ever selling game.

BM66 is not even close..

The Munsters, The Adams Family and Bewitched all came out on TV at the exact same time (the same week, believe it or not).

The Munsters, of course got better ratings than Adams Family, because it was more fun.

Herman Munster is believed to be the first gay sitcom star. You could not have a gay character as the lead 1964, but an effeminate Frankenstein was apparently OK with the network.

The best selling Stern is Meteor, with almost 8,000 made.

The person that said it was Stern’s best selling machine of all time is Joe Kaminkow, if he can be trusted. You’d think he’d know sales figures?

Any guesses how many Munsters will sell?

There are only a few hundred between Super LE & LE, and Premium didn’t sell at all while the code was in shambles. I’m sure it picked up recently with better code..but with that roll out and no Pro, it’s impossible that it’s sold more than the top sellers: TSPP, LOTR, AC/DC, Metallica, GB. It probably didn’t sell as many as lesser sellers like the original Batman Dark Knight.

Well, if you take 1964 made, then figure that 1/2 are going overseas, then split between LE Pre and Pro, then the secret LEs with the Black LED illumination.....and times it by 2X for the two years it was on the air.