Lower and upper playfields can be great if they keep them simple, but also make the shots in there deliberate. I don't like upper or lower playfields where you just flip quickly or randomly to keep a ball going. AC/DC's lower playfield takes deliberate shooting and has no randomness to it. It also has a quick get in, get your shots in, and get out feel. Compared to something like the lower playfield in Congo, it's a night and day difference. There are some good and terrible lower and upper playfields in pinball. If they can make a game with three levels, and all three levels are good, that would be quite a feat and would be a lot of fun to play.

I hope they do this theme justice with the show’s integration into the game on the LCD, similar to how well they did (and are still doing) Batman66. Playing bm66 even made me want to rewatch some of the episodes...phenomenal lcd/clip integration. There are a lot of assets they can pull from with seventy 25-min Munster episodes!

No, not every designer. Ritchie and Trudeau have said that. Borg has said he starts with the Pro.

Did you see how excited he was talking about Gotg pro? Without a doubt he designs around the pro..
He likely enjoys the challenge, but certainly enjoys pumping out quality games at the more affordable price point for the community. I hope this rocks, cause it’d be nice sitting next to Taf

He's obviously wrong.

Yup. There's a reason why Borg's Pros are so solid, and sometimes what he adds to the Premiums seems forced.

Generally, Ritchie's games seem to be lacking on his Pros.

But being the best in total.

Honestly, who does the Vaults? Spiderman Vault, Star Trek Vault, ACDC Vault...

Little bit of trolling aside: Yes, of course there is a flipside to everything. I think Star Wars Pro is lacking as hell, but Star Trek Pro plays generally the same and GoT while playing totally different is a great Pro!

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What was this thread originally about?

If i was rich, I'd buy an AC DC Luci Vault. I love the Luci model. And that is a machine I'd like to own one day... But, honestly it's like 7th or 8th on my list of new machines. And if I decide to start buying old machines again then it's like 30th... But, I really only want to buy new machines as I just don't like the maintenance on the older machines.

To each their own. Probably the same with uppers too. No one ever raves about AS or WoZ uppers. But those uppers do mix it up a bit.

Some lowers (like AC/DC) don’t really get me going, but certain lowers (Congo & HH for example) add a really cool element to the game.

If Munsters were to have a “Grandpas Basement”, AND it were to be well designed to add an extra element to the game, I think it would do the IP justice... especially if access is a hinged trap door on the floor of the first level.

There is a photo of the cabinet on FB 'Pinball Enthusiast Group'. It is either real or some one has some graphics skills.

It is the same photo posted on page 11 and in the photo gallery. mnpinball already stated it is a mock up from a year ago and changes have been made since then.

Hmmm... There's not a lot (if at all) of maintainence when buying any recent HUO game and to be honest the game I had to do the most maintainence was a NIB TNA (mostly resoldering about 1 or 2 LED a week), wich was really bugging me because it sat in a spot where I could not easily open it.

In the same spot sits a Johnny Mnemonic who doesn't need any maintainence at all for the last 1 1/2 year... after tinkering with it for 2 weeks when I bought it or so. - But if that's not for everyone I can understand it of course.

AC/DC, GOT, and SW pros are far from lacking. Some might say they are better players

SW Pro is DEFINITELY lacking. AC/DC Pro is lacking the least. GoT Pro is right in the middle.

One thing I've learned over the years here on Pinside--mnpinball's posts are to be trusted!

Yes, small details included, even though we want tons more info.

Have u ever actually played any of those games? far from lacking. Some guys need a bunch of crap all over the PF to make a pin special I guess

Starwars...

A game I sorta want but never buy cause it's the most stripped down title in Stern history.

Hopefully Munsters will be legit!

Where did you read/hear about that?

Assumptions lead to disappointments. I shall not think about what I believe should be in the game, so I shall be completely surprised when it is out.

You think it might feature the cast of Addams Family instead? I am in agreement with you though. Things happen and changes tale place until they don't change anymore. ... Herman Munster is a lock, everything else is up in the air. Not including all cast and pets would be a fail.

edit - I don't currently own any Dwight Sullivan coded games, so am probably due.

I have a Star Wars, so just not sure I am hoping/want the Munsters to be coded like Star Wars since Dwight is/has coded both games.

I hope Zombo makes an appearance in the game.

Ritchie is the king, but his Pros are compromised, by his own admission.

You forgot Iron Man Vault. Borg. And Tron is coming.

Star Wars Premium is bare enough....the Pro looks like a home version!

GOT Pro is missing that whole damn upper playfield, and AC/DC the lower one!

Pass what you're smoking!

I think he likes to play ‘em. Maybe that’s the disconnect.

I like to play those 3 too.

The Premiums.

SW is so bare that non pinheads walk up to it & think "wtf do I even hit".

Its like a No Fear missing 70% of its ramps.

People ask the same thing about my SW premium. Since it is hard to explain, I blame the code for this, especially when you're in not in a mode and you have some inserts blinking 2 colors. I think even the code is confused.

I own a SW Premium and love it. I can also admit that the SW Pro plays great. I know SW fans lost their shit because it's not full of toys, but if you can get past that it's a hell of a lot of fun to play. I'm not convinced that tossing an upper or lower playfield or magnets or whatever into the mix would have made it play better.

From what I've read here SW Pro absolutely crushes on route, so the randos must be finding the coin slot even if they can't figure out how to play it.

It says "Star Wars" on it so of course it crushes on route.

And while I kinda started that whole discussion I have to say Star Wars pro plays smooth like butter. But so does every other Ritchie game, that have more interresting stuff on them and easier to learn rules.

Make no mistake

I want a SW

Just not enough to actually buy one

It’s hard to explain

Its not hard to explain at all, you’re a tight ass!

There’s some truth to that my friend

But it doesn’t apply to this scenario I promise.

I bought Aerosmith *after* the Star Wars reveal so it wasn’t about money/space

SW disappointed me so much I almost called Stern to complain lol

I know and i feel ya believe me. SW is NOT a bad game at all and its kinda fun honestly. I just think most people had higher expectations for it and were let down because it seems like its kind of stripped down a little and it just killed the mood for many people. SW is definitely not a bad game though. If they would have just threw a few nice toys and figurines in there i think people would have been alot happier with it.

If Uncle Gilbert is in it, i'm DAY ONE, no questions asked!

Anyone have any speculation about when this will be officially announced and pics of it? I've been thinking about getting a Maiden, but am a fan of the Munsters and wouldn't mind seeing what it looks like before I pull the trigger on a Maiden.

Buy both

Not a bad idea, but honestly the pricing of new pins has kind of turned me off from pinball. I remember when we bought a pro no more than 5 years ago for something like 3500 or 3700

I hope a SW falls into my lap locally @ a great price some day.

Because there's absolutely no fck'n way I'd pay $7499 or even the $7299 for one after CC rewards n ebay bucks.

Anyway enough about me. Back to our wishful thinking & high expectations of Munsters.

That’s a real shame, if true. One would think there’s a big enough market for packed games...especially by an established designer.

At the least it should be announced by that time when they have some on the line and about to start boxing some games. Time will tell if they will still announce it at Pinball Expo in October.

I mean, can you wait that long? The games are in production for only 3 years.

What do you think they will do for music?

Although the Munsters theme is very iconic, it needs to be used sparingly to avoid becoming too repetitive (kinda what happened with Stern version of Indiana Jones over using the main theme).

Other than the theme song there isn't much to take from the show so I'm assuming it will be custom music for the game.

What would be better; "jazzy" like Batman66 or more modern/techno like what they did with original Lost in Space theme music in the Sega pinball version?

Fall Out Boy has a song called "Uma Thurman" that heavily samples the original Munsters theme but I dont think it would be a good pinball song.

Good question...I can’t see it being too “jazzy” (I think that lent itself purrfectly for the catwoman mode in bm66), but the Munsters seem to be more pipe organ-ish...but not eerie (is there such a thing?) I could see some original music featuring upbeat harpsicord. Either way, I’m looking forward to see what they’ve got in mind

I like where this is going!

I'm looking forward to seeing the playfield and gameplay for sure. Not interested in owning a Munsters though - the show was a little before my time and never clicked with me in re-runs when I was a kid.

Tron is coming??? I am hoping you heard something that I have not???