I'd like a color Premium also but with the Pro's backglass artwork.

Yup, and when they get bored and sell it for the next "fix", I'll be there to swoop it up cheaper...bwhahahaha!!!

That’s okay. I was just trying to answer honestly. Bottom line it’s not the smartest thing to do but if they announce the change before delivering any units and allow cancellations that is about all you could expect. They probably have a bigger hit than they thought and just want to meet the demand. I get it. Hopefully in the future they are clearer about intentions.

Only way I’d get an LE is if it read
“#501 of 500”

I wasn’t talking about a class action lawsuit or suggesting one. I just answered the legal question. Some people are way too touchy for no apparent reason.

Where did you see those items? I was just on Stern's site and didn't see them. Thanks.

On the scale of Kaneda extremeness, I don't know that his latest episode exactly qualifies as "losing his shit". Whether one agrees or disagrees with his expressed opinion that Stern's, after the fact, LE quantity increase and lack of public communication thus far are "BULLSHIT" though, I think he deserves credit for 1) breaking the news and 2) it being correct info. Especially since so many on this thread chose to dismiss it as being incorrect given the source.

We don't need legal counsel, the argument has no merit. You said people have the right to sue, but don't bother as it won't be worth it. Completely unhelpful to fan the flames of discontent when Stern is doing some amazing work. Let's talk about the game!

Just in the Stern video teaser... I posted this video after I wrote what you saw lol

We would only be on page 37 if we just talked about the game...

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All our designs are final and we have no plan to alter these in the future.
Regards
Stern Marketing

There will be no Walking Dead Premium - Stern

There will be 500 LE units - Stern

Code updates every two weeks - Stern

You're color-blind, then. The pastels in Beatles have almost no relation to the colors in Munsters.

And speaking of Beatles - zero golds sold on the Beatles store in the past 7 weeks. That second run to get to 1964 isn't happening without a price chop.

Given the history of doing just that there's really no reason to say it, or for anyone to believe it.

And FWIW I think it's fine. Making a new color Premium later isn't shady, it wasn't some limited promised thing. Make a new Monsters Metallica. Make Luci. Do a fishtank Walking Dead. Vault release the machine I'm trying to sell and tank the value we aren't owed anything as long as there wasn't an implied promise otherwise.

So much hypocrisy, since I'm sure many of the upset folks are remake lovers (which caused my HEP AFM value to plummet by 3-5k

While that's a bummer for me, it's very cool that folks can enjoy AFM without going through a long, painful, costly restoration. Good for the pinball community, bad for the high-end collectors...oh well. Still not a fan of the way the remakes play (when compared with HEP originals), but the games are a welcome addition to the community starved for some of the old/popular classics.

munsters great fun, needs more code, some nerfing, lower playfield not as good as I hoped for, wish they had done a star trek style premium with the nicer armour. Hugely fun title, although to me Deadpool is better but this is still a good game and I expect a lot more with code...

Not a fan of adding games to a LE line in a title.
I get it,your paying for some extras and a bunch for the privilege to have limited issued game and I think it should be respected .
I get they can make some extra cash but you could say that they could just sell more premiums
50 more in the U.S. isn’t too bad.
Still pumped for the game

You forgot. Luci will not be made in the run of the vaults - Stern.

Don't see how anyone can say that Stern (or any manufacturer) going back on their word like this is okay.

Is it a big deal? In my opinion, no. Upside is more people will get games and doubt it will have much affect on resale. Still doesn't make it right.

As others have pointed out, it's not the first time, so not a surprise and shouldn't expect it to be the last.

Just keep the possibility in mind when making purchase decisions in the future.

From another thread:

Contact us here at - [email protected]
Ask for Peter who will contact our contracted distribution manager to follow this up for you .
Best Regards
Stern product support

So which position are you in? Marketing? Support? I am also confused by

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/munsters-is-coming/page/4#post-4442321

Where you show a picture taken supposedly at 12:30AM in Chicago (why is it light out?) that was taken in 2017, not 2018 (when you made the post), at least according to its image name.

While listening to the the Special When Lit Podcast when interviewing the people involved in the machine it sounded to me like they specifically added/left the laugh track in.

You are also the guy posting multiple times in the Deadpool speculation thread about who was working on what that was completely wrong, and posting pics of the line from the same 2017 date as the pic in this thread.

I've been seeing your posts for awhile and just been generally ignoring them as bullcrap, but looks like some people are taking them at face value. Seems like you are just trolling for sh*ts and giggles, and that's just kinda sad. I'd be happy to be proven wrong and have a Stern resource posting regularly on here, but not holding my breath.

Screw all LE and SLE owners ....remake all of them - who cares that they have Limited Edition in there title!

That’s a double head banger.

ok can we move on from the fact that an extra 100 LE's are going to be made. Stern have decided and you can't do anything about it!

Here is a youtube video of our stream from EAG today. Youtube still processing the higher resolution versions....

LOL

This 500 vs 600 LEs scandal has rocked me to my core. It’s shaken the very foundations of my existence. It’s not that I don’t know if I can trust Stern anymore... I don’t know if I can trust ANYTHING anymore?!!

I get why LE buyers are pissed. It's a shady move.... changing the landscape after folks have plopped down money. LAME.

But, let's be honest. Thinking that anything created to be a collectable is actually collectable is soooo Franklin Mintish. Call 1-800 for your special uncirculated coins!

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We all know the deal with Stern. They change the terms when it means they'll make money... Jersey Jack has done the same exact thing. And why wouldn't they? Business first, customer second. As far as I can tell, the only company that hasn't pulled this is Spooky (probably because they don't have the capacity to pull it off... although Charlie definitely puts ethics high up there, which I respect).

Thanks.

It’s called “greed “ !!

The nerve of Stern making pins people want and making money.

So everyone here be would happy if Stern stuck to 500 Le's and just taken an extra 100 LEs for the export market out of the US market?
Suits me

The nerve of Stern stating a specific number of LE's to generate quick sales then upping the numbers after the fact when sales are good to generate more money....cough Munsters...cough...BM66 SLE.

History with Stern repeats itself with regards to the dollar. Integrity never enters the picture.

I paid $12k for an original Medieval Madness and then they remake them... Outrageous!

Disclaimer... I don't own MM.

I wasn’t fanning anything. What the hell is wrong with some of you guys? People are attacking each other over a legitimate issue some people have. This is supposed to be a fun site about pinball. If people are going to freak out to this level that’s kind of sad. Now I can’t even answer someone’s question without someone bitching. Lighten the F up. It’s a game.

Whatever, I agree with Neil to bring it back to the game.

I'm really happy more people can enjoy this awesome game, regardless of what version they want.

Thank you Stern and staff for producing a beautiful machine and rethinking allotment for those that want the LE.

If demand is still going strong after 600 are sold, time to rethink that allotment again. Same reasoning should apply.

BINGO! Now you're cooking with gas. Bring them on just as long as it doesn't effect game play who cares?

Ask yourself why they don't just go ahead and make 1,000 LE's. What do you think? Can you figure that one out?

Above my pay grade Ice and don't care quite honestly. Le buyers will still line up for the next game...it doesn't matter to Stern either..

Was about to say the strategy of increasing LE allotment if demand is strong will only work once, but nah...I suspect it will work over and over again.

Got to hand it to Stern, the way they're always playing around with their pricing strategies keeps us guessing.

Meanwhile in the World of Poor Analogies...

I get why Stern had to do it for their distributors and bigger worldwide distribution now

You would think they might have factored that in up front

So just make 2 unlimited premium versions since that’s what all the apologists seem to want anyhow

The truly absurd part of this thread is LE's are making Stern richer, not customers! (independent of how many they produce).

The notion that "limited" translates into customers making money (or losing less money) is imaginary.

As a Stern NIB customer since 2004, I'd love to see 2 versions, Pro and Premium...no hard limits on either.

We need CGC to announce the Munsters Remake in 6 months.

Back to Munsters.

What's your thoughts on the rules on being simple to get to Munster Madness?

How are Tournament players going to view this?

Dwight did say on head2head that he tries to code for opperators,home owners and tournament players in the same code.
Tho I feel that this is too shallow for the Above average and Pro players. (Or am I missing something here)
Thoughts???

I’ll give you $12,000 for the LE Prototype in B&W with red trim, B&W playfield, art blades.... and you can keep your designs final.

($15,000 if my money is for charity and I mean it!)

Regards
Paulo JC

Personally, I think it’s great. We need a lot more simple in these games to make them appeal to everyone. I hope Stern never starts coding with the tournament player in mind... would be a huge mistake IMO.