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Quoted from RebelGuitars:Things just got Weird!
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Quoted from mbelofsky:In the down position, the flap at the ramp entrance is slightly lifted and a ball will get stuck at the bottom of hot lightly.
This happens on mine too. I think this is not usual and the ball search takes care of it fairly quickly.
Quoted from mbelofsky:At 6.5 degrees, the ball gets jammed behind the switch right below the bumper at the top left. I had to gently pry it out. [quoted image]
Have not had this happen. Your stand-up target looks bent forward.
I modified my flipper boxes to be two stage flippers. Feels like a standard pinball machine now. I'll report back with impressions after playing with them a bit. First thing I noticed is the 'meal ticket' switching sides.
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:More info please!
Not a lot of play time in but so far I like it. Should make the game more approachable to others since the top playfield flipper is also controlled by the lower buttons now. Don't know if this will cause excessive wear but I think for my home environment it should be fine. I may add a switch to go back to 'as designed' if needed.
Here are the details to the mod (soldering required). Components were parts I had lying around (except for the nylon washers).
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Notes:
a) Long blades on top and middle.
b) Black wire on center blade so it makes good contact with either switch.
c) Red wire on top blade.
d) Gold contacts facing each other for top and middle blades (lower flipper)
e) Bottom blade connected with wire to White button blade with white wire.
f) Add spacer to bottom of other switches to match the height of the red switch.
g) Double sided tape or adhesive to add nylon washer to button board.
h) The modified box extends slightly into the cabinet.
i) No adjustment of the blades was needed and the amount of separation between the stages seems good.
*The backside of the gold contact on the middle blade making contact with the lower blade's contact is not ideal, but wanted to give the two stage flipper a try before modifying or buying a part like below.
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Parts
1) 2x long blade from new slingshot switch to add the second stage switch
2) 2x spacer scavenged from old leaf switches to match white and yellow switch heights to red switch height.
3) 2x very thin spacer scavenged from old leaf switches to cover added blade (reduces nut height)
3) 6x 1.5mm x 8.2mm (OD) as measured, nylon washers to account for additional switch heights when mounting switch board to button box.
4) 2x short wires
Time: about 1hr for the first box to figure things out, 20 minutes for the second box.
Quoted from twenty84:Thanks, I wasn't aware of the downside. I won't do it then.
I had my flippers set to one button play and had no problem making the spiral ramp. However, I tend to play <30 minutes at a time. Not sure if fade is an issue, but my flippers are probably not heating up enough if so.
Note: if you change to single button play, the flipper on the upper playfield will still use the second button.
Quoted from dpadam450:Yea, I have a feeling it is an issue elsewhere. Do you get any friction on the flipper armature? We noticed months back some part was dragging slightly on the top of the flipper armature and it was scratching the acrylic above it. I figured over time it might just dig enough scratch that it wouldn't be physically causing more of a scratch. That could be one issue why this specific game is having an issue.
Haven't noticed any flipper drag.
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