1. They are working on something apparently. There are plans somewhere on Pinside for a DIY cart.
2 and 3. I suggest you go on Twitch and search Multimorphic and watch streams. That’s how I was able to determine which modules and games I am getting. I’ve decided to get all modules(to save on international shipping), and 5 of the software only games.
4. Speaker lighting and cab lighting are options that can be installed on the production line. I plan on both.

Yeah thanks to Kev I'm also hooked on the other P3 games. Never played or seen a P3 so making my purchase choices based 90% on Kevin's streams.

So KevInBuffalo when do you get WAMONH?

Don't forget to take into account that MultiMorphic had 4-6 months of backlog for the P3. So those in the queue before Weird Al was announced can request a WA module when their machine goes on the line. Common sense dicates that they should be able to get their WAMONH before those that placed an order only after it was announced(talking about full P3 machines here).

The flipper button/switches switches of the P3 are OUTSIDE the cabinet. That thin button box. No space to stack in there.

There are no unboxings yet. Only one that we heard about in that thread is the game that went to the distributor that provided the raffle games.

Fliptronic on Twitch. They are involved somehow with Multimorphic. She was the girl playing the game in the original release video. They took home one of the demo games from TPF. IIRC they have a loaner cab but the module is theirs.

There have been no reports yet of regular customers getting their Weird Al game or module.

Awesome freakin pics there Gerry! Love the engineering behind the platform. Reminds me of work (Aviation)

Made my day

Oh and thanks for the correction

Now get back to work making more!! lol.

like you just did minutes ago in your stream!

Only 6 months to go before it’s my turn! Siiiigh.

I resemble that remark

It’s 5% off the additional playfields(of equal or lesser value). This means any playfield since Weird Al is the most expensive one. Personally I plan on getting all of them with my Weird Al. For me it’s all about combining the shipping since I’m in Canada. It’s pallet size that matters.

Yeah I put a deposit on all modules in addition to my Weird Al. Was scheduled for Dec but now I guess Feb with the 2 month backlog. The waiting is killing me! Lol

Glad to see I’m not the only one going “all in” with all 5 modules!!

I hope to have mine for my b’day in March. Was scheduled for Dec but the delays are probably here for some time.

Just check out Sorcerer's Apprentice (for the CCR modeule). It's exactly what you describe.

I’d suspect a disconnected wire either the servo itself or at the controller board.

Have you checked the more obvious first? Does the coil have continuity? Sometimes the winding wire breaks at the coil lug.

The original game software is linked to the module (Heist, Weird Al, etc). You can install it in all the machines but it will only run if the module is installed. Add-on software is linked to the P3 itself such as games like ROCS, Sorcerer's Apprentice, Ranger in the ruins, etc. I don't believe there is a way to sell/share those software only games.

i think most would suggest Heist

Reseat the display cables? Powered off of course…

You need access to at least 1 side. PF modules cannot be removed from the front.

With the increased interest in the P3 platform (thanks to Weird Al) I think you’d get the modules quicker if you just ordered them from MM. full machines are a year wait but I don’t think it’s the same with just the modules. However I certainly could be wrong…

Also a lot of 1-of 80's movies with huge followings out there. Not sure they'd turn into a great pinball game but with the digital pf on a P3 it certainly opens up options. Labyrinth, Princess Bride, Little shop of Horrors, Space Balls, etc.

Save planet Druidia! Make the shot to switch Mega-Maid from suck to blow!!

I believe it’s 3-4 weeks if done directly through MM.

Unless the game was bought through a distributor. In that case you’d have to ask your distro.

Hey fellow Canadians with a P3? Any of you buy it from MM directly? How did you handle shipping (who)?

Shipping to the border for a U.S. pickup isn't really a possibility for me. I can pick up from a local terminal (Ottawa) or home delivery($$$) but really have no idea who to contact for shipping. MM will arrange for the broker but shipping company is up to me. Not sure where to start! I'd rather NOT use Fedex ground as I'm sure it would be insanely more expensive than a regular shipping company but maybe I am wrong since brokerage is handled independently?

Actually Gerry got back to me. I misunderstood. The broker will handle it all, unless I prefer alternate arrangements (my choice of broker/shipper) and then I'd be on my own. I also asked about modules since they are/should be simpler to ship. I ordered all modules but they are delayed so I was curious of the arrangement. The preferred outcome would have been a double pallet with the game and all modules together to save on overall shipping but I get it that it's not feasible right now. No biggie.

Shipsy is for pickup in the Toronto area only. The other shipping solution that was linked only ship to the US side near the border. You have to pick up.

Gerry mentioned that the broker will bring the game to my door. You and I can discuss offline or on Discord to keep this thread clear.

Invoiced and paid! Woot! Now the exciting wait for the shipping notification

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The box for the P3 is not like other NIBs. It's a shell with top and bottom "lids". All held together by being strapped to the pallet. If you cut the straps the box is no longer a box. Either you can slide it down on the pallet or you will need to take it off the pallet and just bring the game down by itself. In either case I don't think you should do it alone. It's just that heavy. I bring my games downstairs alone also on my Escalera but I won't for this game (getting mine in a few weeks). It's of similar weight to my WOZ and that ended up being scary - and we were 2!

Others have mentioned removing the PF and module helps with making the weight more manageable.

Search youtube for "unboxing a P3" and you will see how it ships.

Not likely. They have way more P3s out in the open now - more ppl ready to buy modules, and every pinhead knows who Scott Danesi is... I expect the same enthusiasm as with Weird Al.

Ok so for those Canadians wondering how the shipping process works, I have some info. It's expensive - through no fault of Multimorphic.

They put me in contact with an exporter. Unfortunately that importer cannot release to an individual(yet), only to a business. They are expecting their CRA Auth soon so they WILL be able to deliver to an individual soon. Their cost breakdown for shipping to Ottawa, insurance(full value) and brokerage fees was as follows:
- Shipping: $725.00
- Liftgate: $ 55.00
- Residential: $ 75.00
- Insurance: $250.00 (based on $13300USD value)
- Handling: $ 95.00
- Customs: $135.00
- Duty/tax: at cost
TOTAL: $1335USD (plus GST on machine value at my end)

I ended up having to use another exporter that teams up with a Canadian broker. Their cost is $1625USD (plus GST at my end). I don't have the cost breakdown yet. They are picking up the game tomorrow at MM. They expect it will take a week to get it to me.

All of these exporters/brokers only deal with commercial/industrial stuff so payment has to be wire or bank transfer (US bank to US bank). Kinda sucks. The Canadian broker does accept EMT (for GST payment) so that's good.

I did consider having it shipped to near the border and driving across to pick it up but I am not comfortable hauling my big ass trailer that far in winter driving conditions. Also you can't just bring it across the border. At that range of value you need a broker. I know lots of folks have connections for that but I do not. Maybe I will do that for modules (pick up south of the border) but the full machine I just didn't feel comfortable with the process.

Posting only so that others may find alternate solutions or at least be aware of what's ahead if you go the same route as I did.

Hoping mine gets picked up by the shipper tomorrow

I'm in the same boat. I do find it odd that they charged full price for the modules when they are clearly not going to get built for a few months - they still have my module deposits anyway. Was expecting to pay the modules when they would be "on the line" - same as the base game. Not too big of a deal as long as they keep to their timeline. I'm ok with it since I was informed before the purchase.... But still odd.

Pretty much nobody deals with Stern directly. Your distributor does. My distributor charges me a deposit when I order and then the balance when I pick up. From what I've heard most distros operate like that as well other than the shady and/or unofficial ones.

The base machine from MM was the same. Put a deposit on it, and once on the line I pay the balance. Why would they not apply the same philosophy for the modules? I have approx 10k of modules paid upfront. It's not an insignificant amount.

As I stated I don't have a problem with it. I just said it's ODD that they don't do it the same way as the base machine. I like some of your posts Zitt but sometimes you just over analyze shit and get too defensive.

And no.. It's NOT industry standard to pay in full months ahead. It does happen but certainly not the standard. Nice try though

As they have a 2-3 month backlog on modules it's not like they'd get stuck with any module if anyone changed their mind. I doubt many would pull out as they'd lose their deposits.

My comment on finding it odd was not meant as a negative post in any way, shape, or form. I was informed ahead of time by MM - great comms BTW. Even if it's not meant as a complaint, I am allowed to have an opinion however.

I also hate waiting LOL. Bring on modules!! WOOOOO

The backlog will only get worse with Scott Danesi's game being announced soon

Well I’m cool with putting this discussion to rest. Nothing to see here. BTW I’ve bought 4 LE’s on deposit with my distro.

Bring on the modules and Scott’s new design!

Finally joined the club officially.

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I had an issue with ALL,flippers no longer working. A full shut down and restart of the machine cured my issue.

Just search multimorphic on discord that’s how I found it.

I think you are over estimating the demand. This isn’t a R2d2 topper lol. The Weird Al LE kit costs 1800$. You’d probably be lucky to just get full value. The topper will not work in another machine without the topper breakout board. You didn’t include it.

The number of LE kits is 227.

The breakout board I spoke of is that upgrade “kit”. I believe it’s out now as I’ve heard a few guys got them.

My comment was more about the fact that there just aren’t that many P3’s and/or Weird Al’s out there. Your possible customer base is limited when compared to something like Star Wars toppers.

You certainly can ask any amount you want just as folks can offer anything they want. At some point I wish you to find some willing to pay what you are willing to sell for!

All good!

I kind of agree. However I have toppers on all my games. Need something up there. But yeah it’ll be odd with other modules.

The issue with the older modules is that someone may make a game for them that is better than the original. Then you’d regret having sold it.

The ball tube may have slipped down? Make sure it is all the way against the stop under the apron. It's one of the things you have to check when you unpack the game (instruction taped on the glass).

Your scoop/wall is rubbing on the tube. Check positioning again.

Alignment is different than power settings. The launch tubes can be adjusted fore-aft on the module. Had to do it on WAMONH.

The pin world isn't ready for that yet. Would you be willing to pay $2-2.5k for a software only game? The cost of licensing would make it real steep. Pinheads would then complain "why pay $2k for software when for a little more I can get a hardware module". You have to pay your development team for this and while they are working on re-theming they are not doing original or licensed titles that can make you more money. This is a business.

IMHO the sweet spot for software only games is <$1k which would likely preclude any licensed titles.

SA is a super fun game but very shallow. This is what $500 buys you. A full fledged re-theme with as deep a ruleset as the original game would likely cost near that $1k "limit", just from the development time/cost perspective. It's not easy to try to shoehorn a new idea into hardware that was specifically designed for something else. CCR module is very basic and generic. These latest modules are pretty complex/detailed, and very purposely designed for the game they were intended for. I still don't see a licensed theme being a re-theme possibility. Then again, I'm not a game designer. There are some very talented individuals out there! Seems like they already all work for MM though, president included. lol.

And going for themes that have copyright loopholes like the ones mentioned above is probably not worth the possible aggravation. Someone somewhere could still go for litigation. This is the U.S.A. we are talking about lol. Just like Weird Al's "I'll sue you!" song in fact!

For me the most rewarding is still the spiral ramp to upper pf loop to UHF camera. So smooth. So satisfying.

At first it was just holding the flipper. Then I started to notice the flipper bat was loose. I had a good look over the weekend. The bat was loose on the shaft. It was sucking the ball energy and was forcing me to flip again to help it over to the camera lock.

This is not an official MM fix but my own experimentation: Took the bat/shaft out of the game, centered the roll pin in the hole and dropped a bit of epoxy in there. It was already a "permanent" installation since it's a roll pin as opposed to a set screw. The only way to get the bat off the shaft to replace it would be to break it.

Anyway the fix worked for me. Now that there is no more slop I am once again hitting the camera by just holding the flipper up after the upper mezzanine loop.

post pics.. mine is Tuesday

Look down each side of the screen. Open the pf door as if you were pulling out the flipper assembly. Look far right and far left. You will see the rows of IR LEDs. They have to be unobstructed. Look to make sure no wires are sagging down from the upper flippers and target assemblies especially.

Actually I've had somewhat of a similar experience so far. Thank god I'm a techno geek and have been into pinball repairs for years otherwise I'd have a 400lbs paper weight right now. I will say this though - MM support does care and they are awesome.

It's the "cost" of being at the bleeding edge of technology. You guys are pushing the outside edge of the envelope. I am cool with growing pains. My biggest concern is someone buying this like they buy a refrigerator and expecting to plug it in and it works. You are growing fast enough and becoming popular enough now that you WILL get those buyers.

I had some issues as well and spent more time on my first week of WAMONH ownership repairing rather than playing. The biggest challenge when compared to a traditional game is the way P3 games launches the ball.

I got my son to help bring the game in. So here we are myself, my wife, and my son.. On first power up the game all lit up and everything was nice. Start a game all good. Launch.... nothing other than the incessant loud clunk of failed launches. My $20kCAD NIB game couldn't even launch ONE ball into play and needed adjustment.

I had read up on possible issues so I was ready for it and made the necessary adjustments to at least get it going. However I can imagine the disappointment and confusion of someone who has not read up on this platform and just expects a working game out of the box. My wife was not happy about the needed repairs as she is a total Weird Al fan lol. I also got 2 failed servos within the first few hours of play. I didn't wait for replacements and bought the exact ones locally but it was still frustrating. One of them required the removal of the upper playfield on the module. Not a simple repair for my first P3 fix.

Other minor issues so far:
- The crank of the topper broke so it no longer moves. I made my own but it broke too. Will try again this weekend. This is not an isolated case. IMHO, 3D printed parts are great for prototyping but a bit too brittle for commercial use.
- Upper mezzanine flipper bat was loose on it's shaft. It can't be removed from the shaft so I dropped epoxy glue in the hole/roll pin. Seems to be holding well.
- Left VUK(ball launcher) is constantly needing adjustment. It'll work fine for a day or two then it'll start failing to launch balls again. WTF. Repeated launch attempts is what causes MB issues with ball ending with balls still in play (game ejects too many or not enough balls and loses count).
- I still get bugs in WAMONH, including hard crashes (this only twice) that require power cycling. I know they are working hard on fixing the issues no I'm not super worried but it sure can dampen the excitement of a new game.

I don't think they should be using cheap chinese servos for commercial use. I wouldn't use those things in my $2-3k R/C airplanes, I certainly wouldn't use them in a $12kUSD commercial pinball machine. However I get it that good reliable servos are expensive. My situation could be an exception as well.

I love the platform and the game so far however I do find it finicky and a bit flaky. MM support is top notch and they do care. I'm hoping the older games are more stable and reliable. Will know when the modules arrive. Drained arrives today but that's built & sold by a third party. Heist arrives on Tuesday. Fingers crossed.

I only had WAMONH last week when a fellow pinhead and his wife came over to play it. He was blown away by the machine in general. Not a big fan of the Weird Al theme but totally sold on the platform. I wouldn't be surprised to see him order one after he comes over to play Heist and FR.

Had my son and his GF come over 2 days ago to see/play it as well (in their early 20's). They got the chance to play Drained and Weird Al (as well as ROCs and Barnyard). They started on Drained - I had just received it a few hours before they came over. Both couldn't stop shooting the gobble hole on Drained so not so much fun for them. It was their first go on a P3. However, Weird Al is now their favorite game ever. He enjoys pinball a lot and she enjoys it too but maybe not as much. Well the P3 platform has sold her on pinball. The interactiveness (yes I made up a word) of the lower pf blew her away she couldn't stop playing. Just 1 more game. It was interesting to watch lol. She's a big time console gamer and kept saying it made pinball feel more familiar/fun to her. The whole "getting visual feedback in your face" is a thing

Both of them didn't want to combine the flippers on 1 button and they got the hang of using lower/upper flippers very quickly.

Pretty sure they will love the other P3 games once I receive them

It's not that they didn't like it. They didn't really understand it. I had JUST gotten it myself so not understanding it fully myself it was hard to explain. In the end I don't give a rat's ass who likes what. I'm paying for it. As long as I like it then I'm good to go! Pretty sure my older son who is more of a pinhead will enjoy it He only comes to visit 2-3 times a year though. Next visit is in a month.

I'm hoping to have some free time this week to enjoy it but right now WAMONH is back in the machine. Heist is arriving tomorrow so that's likely going to be the focus - getting it dialed in. Your module was literally "drop in and it works". Kudos to you sir.

I tightened some switches (stand ups and pop-bumper) but that's my choice.

I’m pretty stoked about CCR as well. Can’t wait to play SA on it. From the streams it’ll likely be my go-to game. Simple to understand. Super hard to complete. Oh and the online racing will be a hoot too with that module.

FR sounds so good. I keep listening to the “just music” portion of the reveal stream. Hell even my wife who will probably hate the game (too fast/hard) is excited because of the sound track.

Just swapping a module can be done in 1-2 mins. Removing and reinstalling the glass takes as much time as the actual swap. If you want to swap all the artwork too then that takes a bit longer. Exterior and apron artwork is magnetic and takes seconds. Slings and target plastics would take a few mins.

Personally I leave the artwork. The plastics aren’t backlit on the game like on traditional games. Unless all the lights in the room are on the plastics are actually hard to see especially with a backlit playfield (the pf monitor).

Someone is working on a product. It's RGB lighting in there. It was on blue/purple when the pic was taken. It won't be cheap. The prototype was listed at 1500$ (for 4 modules). I assume the end product will likely cost more than that. I'd guess around $400-500 per module for the final product but I could be wrong. I have nothing to do with this project, just passing along info I have come across. Seller is on ap3shop.com

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I prefer Heist to Weird Al. I find Weird Al a bit too easy. There are no real rewards for completing modes. You only need to start them - I agree this is more in line with 90's Bly/Wms games. Last week I actually managed to get to stage 3 of running with scissors on ball 1. The only tense part IS running with scissors since you only have 30 secs to complete the shots of each phase, and there are 17 phases to complete with multiple shots each.

Heist is hard. It's hard in the build up and either very hard or insanely hard in the wizard mode, depending on whether you got the bonus items when you collected the team members. I have save states for Heist and even at the final 15-ball MB, I can't finish it. Hitting the cross-town shot when in MB and when you can't stage the shot is so hard. I can't even fathom completing the game in 1 go without save states although I have seen KevInBuffalo do it on stream
I haven't even started to consider getting the other heists done in addition to the final one. This game just has so much to offer. I wonder if something special happens when you manage to collect ALL the jewels in the game.

I've only had the game for a few weeks and I still need to rotate WAMONH in there to keep my wife happy lol.

Heist keeps me coming back for more. Weird Al not so much because I know that my game will likely last at least 20-30 mins most times I hit the start button. I got rid of LOTR because of long game times. Weird Al stays though because my wife prefers Weird Al. She hates Heist (finds it way too hard).

It's really subjective and it's whatever floats your boat, just like traditional pins. Some like them some don't.

The other games I'm super stoked about are FR and SA. Lexy should ship to me this week. Can't wait to try it. I have a feeling Lexy will be a bit like Heist but slightly easier.

Lexy started shipping last week(new owners chiming in on Discord). CCR would be next I believe.

They have multiple module production lines. FR wouldn’t impact the production of the other modules. Gerry has stated this in an interview not long ago.

Network cable plugged in properly in the back of the module? If yes then:

Known issue. Go on MM support site and download the OS update and update via USB. Can”t be done over wifi. It does not erase or reset anything. Don’t worry that the update is dated 2020. There was an issue with some OS files in recently shipped P3s. Also causes issues with Cannon Lagoon where it’s display won't work either.

Best way to understand is to watch KevInBuffalo play it on youtube. Well worth the 20-30 mins. Certainly not a traditional pinball game and not for everyone. For me this is right up my alley. Playing for storyline progress and not for score makes games interesting to me.

It depends. For me the mini games are better. My wife dislikes them and prefers CCR(in arcade mode). For casual players CCR is a better fit. If you like nerd shit then the mini games are so much fun. Yes I like geeking out lol.

Get Sorcerer’s Apprentice. It makes more pinball sense. There is no point really to cart racing. I enjoy it for what it is. Mindless flipping to make green shots.

Got my Lexy yesterday. Needed some repairs after the shipping gorillas had their fun playing soccer with it. At least it’s functional. Ugggh.

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Meh. I think the gorillas see it more as "challenge accepted" thing when they see fragile stamped all over a package.

With the amount of weight/pressure that was applied to bend the habitrails that much I don’t think it would have made a difference. You can't always compensate for stupid/careless shipping gorillas.

Also make sure you are pulling on both the back and front handles at least equally, if not more on the front handle.

The front handle on Weird Al is that black metal bar that supports the spiral ramp.

On mine the metal started to come off on the backbox (both sides). I just applied pressure to re-stick and it hasn’t come loose since. That was about 2.5 months ago.

You aren’t understanding the problem. Some P3s have an issue with the metal plate coming off the cabinet sides(crappy adhesive). So yes trying to remove the magnet removes everything. It obviously shouldn’t do that.

Right?

Who would have thought unlicensed themes could still be so awesome! Now on to Final Resistance to drive the point even further!

Helps more on certain modules.

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Does auto-launch detect the pf module and launch the appropriate main app? I was thinking of setting that up at home so my wife doesn't need to figure out the carousel thing. She is technologically challenged lol. I change modules often for myself.

Thanks!

Set it up for Heist yesterday. Now on to the rest of the modules!

Tried updating Silver Falls yesterday. Never got passed the "preparing the download package". After 1 hour I shut it off and figured the download would be ready by today. Nope. Still asked to select for prep. Hopefully it works today?

Good to know. Server error at their end.

Edit: Just worked for me.

I'd rather only contact support when I'm sure there's a problem. Could have been a wifi issue at my end. Hate to waste people's time with inane shit.

Also I thought the auto-purge was 24 hours. good to know

So where is it? It would be installed already if it was on the MM store....

When is it going up?

Same here!

Except I have to go help a friend haul a BM66 LE down in his basement. Gah

You go on multimorphic’s support site and check troubleshooting the scoops.

WAMONH is the only module I have that has a minor issue when I remove/install it. For whatever reason I always need to re-adjust the left launch chute when I plop that module in. All other modules swap in/out without any issue whatsoever. (I own all modules including Drained).

If I don't adjust the chute the game will end up launching too many balls at some point in the game and it screws things up. Otherwise it works well.

I did have 2 servo failures right when I got the game, probably from a bad batch of servos. MM sent replacements and haven't had issues since with servos & diverters.

Overall it was a bit of work to dial it in, mostly because it's non-standard when compared to a "regular" pinball machine. Just getting to know the game and understand how things work has a bit of a learning curve. I find it's as reliable as my other games now.

I can’t reply directly to this guy since he’s blocked me but here goes:

Reply to skipnatty: The problem is that these threads and the discord are an echo chamber of general positive platitudes and those who have issues are quickly set aside, and most folks who have had issues with newer batch games have just quietly exited the platform or have tried and can't find buyers.

I disagree that it’s all positive. You need to keep in mind that not everyone has issues. Getting only negative experiences reported is just as useless as all positive. I agree that folks who can’t figure out how to use a screwdriver should probably not get a P3, or any pinball machine for that matter as they are high maintenance devices. The P3 is different and fails in different ways than regular games. I’ve had issues with other NIB games as well. They were just easier to fix because i am more familiar with them. The first month of ownership of the P3 was more repair than play for me as well. However since then it’s been rock solid.

I am sorry to hear you are having so many issues. I also understand how you feel. I had an issue with LL where half the things on the pf no longer worked (optos & mini-screen). reboots didn't fix it. Took the module out over a month ago and didn't try it again as I didn't feel like fixing things right now. I just put LL back in last weekend because my son wanted to see it. I expected it to not work but lo and behold, it was working fine. Go figure. LL has been my problem child since it got damaged in shipping. MM did offer to repair it but being in Canada, I didn't think that shipping it back would be useful. I can repair most things myself anyway. MM promptly sent me replacement parts (my wireforms got all bent in shipping, in addition to other damage). Mini-screen didn't work at first because of connection issues. Then the RPI stopped working - SD Card got corrupted somehow. I have many RPIs in different devices so I was lucky to have ways to test and find the problem. Once it was confirmed that the SD card was corrupt they sent me the img file to burn a new one. Worked fine after that.

I also have had the EOS optos fall off. I consider that issue fairly minor as the game works fine without them and they were only introduced a few years ago.

Servo replacements are also more complicated than coils or motors on other games. I am familiar with them having been in the Remote Controlled Airplanes hobby for years. Good thing too because I surely would have messed up the replacement. Someone familiar with pins but not servos need to follow the instructions closely and not just assume that you can plop a new one in there and it'll work.

P3 is also the only pinball I know where you can actually physically damage/burnout parts (like servos) by changing settings you don't understand. It's not the kind of thing you can just go in and think "oh I'll just change this setting and see what happens". A big puff of smoke could happen and then $$$.

I really hope you get your P3 sorted out. I should get FR next week. Hopefully undamaged and fully working. In my case, the only module that needed absolutely NO adjustment whatsoever from NIB was Drained. However it did need tweaking as the switch gaps on the dozens of standups were way too wide and hitting the targets often didn't register. Same with the upper slings. But these are standard NIB pinball machine tweaks.

Right here:
Shoot flashing shots. Don’t drain.

Oh wait….

Done through the profile system. Create a profile, in the profile settings change the flipper button assignment, start a game using that profile. You can set an auto-assigned profile so you wouldn’t have to select it every time you start a game.

Start a game with your profile. Flipper button + start. Edit profile settings, not the system settings

What Gerry said ^^^^^^^^

I made mine into a profile for the folks who for some reason are incapable of using more than 1 button per side.

It reminds me of anyone who's never played pinball. They start by chimp flipping both sides when the ball gets close to the flippers. Then they understand the left right thing eventually. Kinda the same with these. Haunted house in the 80's had separate buttons (main/upper/lower pf). Folks weren't throwing fits back then about it. You just played the game as designed.

We don't see it anymore because the BOM would be unaffordable. That game had 3 playfields and 8 flippers lol.

And your experience is completely opposite to mine as well. I've had a lot of pinheads come over, including some of our top Canadian players, and they ALL insisted on playing split button as designed. I offered single button and they all refused it.

You're missing the point that the game is designed to separate the flippers because of certain shots you have to make where if the upper flipper was up the shot would be blocked.

I get that it's more comfortable to go with what you know and are used to. That doesn't mean it's the only way to do things or that it's better. It's just what you (we) are used to.

Within about 20-30 minutes of playing all of the folks I talked about above "got it" and it was no big deal. I've asked them after "how was it?" and without exception the answer was "it's fine with split buttons".

In any case I have profiles set up for players who prefer simple but haven't run into one yet.

All we know is that it's a licensed theme and should cause a rush of orders lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if they make the announcement at the Houston show(10-12 Nov).

Have you played Heist or Final Resistance? Both are awesome games but on opposite spectrums of play experience.

Actually I think what Gerry meant it’s 2 more in progress for a total of 3 including Weird Al.

Yeah the timing was funny lol.

Sounds like your EOS is not working. Inspect the EOS board on the flipper assembly. There should be a U-shaped black plastic component on it. Some have fallen off. If this is the case you need to replace the board. In the meantime just unplug the EOS board. This will tell the system there is no;EOS. It operates slightly different.

AP3SHOP.COM has rolling “boxes” available. They are supposed to offer a stand to put them in at some point although they’ve been saying “soon” for many months.

I have 6 rolling boxes and no room to store them.. I’m desperate for the rack solution!

They are stored under games. Not really concerned yet.

I've heard Princess Bride. That would suck as it would make it a must buy module. Already have all of them and no more room to store them.

Escalera (with removeable forklift) to the rescue for me. Got the P3(WAMONH) in the basement alone without any disassembly. Had a spotter though “just in case”.

Then used the forklift to lift it up to put the legs on. No harder or different than my other pins.

Multimorphic has them all in stock.