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#2051 61 days ago
Quoted from Pinball_Eddie:

I know MM was very tight lipped when Weird Al came out, but didn’t they post some pics\hints beforehand?
We’re getting so many rumors going around from other manufacturers, just hoping they could throw us a little hint or at least a ballpark timeframe when we could get a hint.

They run a super tight ship.

What they don't want is someone who loves the next theme waiting rather than buying now.

I'm happy to know that 2 releases are planned for this year

- Mark

P.S. Why has no one suggested Evil Dead???

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#2052 61 days ago
Quoted from clempo:

I'm not sure I understand the strategy to announce two new titles this year when they are struggling with the backlog on Weird Al, unless they have plans to greatly expand the manufacturing capability, maybe my moving to a larger factory for example.

I hear that a lot. It's old-school thinking. For traditional (single-themed) machines, it usually makes sense to finish shipping previous machine orders before announcing a new title (though some announce prior to that anyway). For a platform machine, it doesn't make any sense. That would deny owners the advantages of a owning platform. Can you imagine Sony or Nintendo having a big backlog for consoles and saying they wouldn't release any new games until they finished shipping all back-ordered consoles? That would punish existing console owners. We're interested in the opposite... ensuring that all P3 owners continue to have access to new games and features regardless of how many people are lined up to get their own P3s (and eventually the exact same loyalty and attention from us).

That's not to say we aren't also going to continue increasing our MFG capabilities to keep the build queue reasonable even as interest continues to rise. We are. A 1-year backlog is pretty reasonable in this industry. Many machines from many pinball manufacturers have build queues longer than that. At least with us, you know that up front, and anybody interested can get in the queue now and shrink the time between new game announcements and delivery of their machine. ... and when we show off new games, a lot of people are going to wish they had. Then, when we announce future titles, a new batch of people will be lamenting the wait and wishing they'd already gotten in line today while all of you are enjoying each new game.

- Gerry
https://www.multimorphic.com

#2053 61 days ago
Quoted from Zitt:

I remember him saying two titles... but don't specifically remember him stating a 50/50 split.
" The Company plans to release two new full-featured P3 modules in 2023.
" -- https://www.knapparcade.org/post/multimorphic-pinball-plans-to-release-two-new-games-in-2023

I'd think they'd be head down with the new baby and the backlog - but would love to be surprised.

Thanks, Z. I couldn’t find it either; thought I’d heard licensed/unlicensed on a podcast but could just be confabulating.

Looking forward to whatever news whenever MM is ready. Since I’m still in the production queue, a later announcement might benefit me slightly. (In on Heist!, leaning CCR for 2nd module but could definitely be persuaded by …?)

#2054 61 days ago

A few thoughts on game releases.

If Multimorphic only does licensed games, in 10 years if someone buys a P3 they could choose between whatever the latest hotness is... or Heist, CCR, Lexi, and Cannon Lagoon. I think slowly rolling out a catalogue of unlicensed games is a smart choice.

As to releasing games with such a large backlog, as I understand it the biggest backlog is for the P3 machine itself. If I'm not mistaken most people with day 1 Weird Al orders only ordering their module got theirs before those who ordered the module and the machine.

I'm taking an educated GUESS that selling the modules is more profitable than selling the P3s themselves and they can make more of them in less time. Yes, getting more platforms out is important (and they are doing that) but I believe the modules and game downloads are keeping the lights on.

Can't wait to see what's next!

As an aside, I only have my Weird Al (still waiting on Heist and CCR) but feel like the game feels like a 90s Bally Williams code-wise... which is a good thing.

#2055 61 days ago
Quoted from gstellenberg:

… when we announce future titles, a new batch of people will be lamenting the wait and wishing they'd already gotten in line today while all of you are enjoying each new game.
https://www.multimorphic.com

This is me, eagerly awaiting my turn.

As the (adapted) proverb goes:

The best time to order a P3 was 13 months ago. The second best time is right now.

Congratulations to the growing family!

#2056 61 days ago

faster to build a pf module than an entire p3! oh and shipping is cheaper hahah

#2057 61 days ago
Quoted from Tribonian:

Phineas & Ferb would translate well artistically, Professor Doofenschmirtz’ -inator contraptions would give TJ a lot of mechanical engineering choices and Candace’s efforts to bust Phinease & Ferb would be perfect for hurry ups.

This would be great theme, just not sure it is well known enough. Always enjoyed watching it with my daughter and heard they are new episodes on the way.

Quoted from Tribonian:

Looking forward to whatever news whenever MM is ready. Since I’m still in the production queue, a later announcement might benefit me slightly. (In on Heist!, leaning CCR for 2nd module but could definitely be persuaded by …?)

One of the reasons I got on the list, was not because of weird Al, but because of what might be next or next after that. I've been watching p3 for years, it is clear it has reached that tipping point where more and more 'content' is being created, heck, you now have a second company making modules, so I am confident they will have games I want. While I have not been a NIB buyer, the modular approach would make it more affordable to add new titles and I figured I better get in line now, since even if they beef up production, that line is probably going to grow as they announce more titles. If they are doing two modules in 2023, seems like I will have more choices for modules when my machine is finally being built.

#2058 61 days ago
Quoted from gstellenberg:I hear that a lot. It's old-school thinking. For traditional (single-themed) machines, it usually makes sense to finish shipping previous machine orders before announcing a new title (though some announce prior to that anyway). For a platform machine, it doesn't make any sense. That would deny owners the advantages of a owning platform. Can you imagine Sony or Nintendo having a big backlog for consoles and saying they wouldn't release any new games until they finished shipping all back-ordered consoles? That would punish existing console owners. We're interested in the opposite... ensuring that all P3 owners continue to have access to new games and features regardless of how many people are lined up to get their own P3s (and eventually the exact same loyalty and attention from us).
That's not say to we aren't also going to continue increasing our MFG capabilities to keep the build queue reasonable even as interest continues to rise. We are. A 1-year backlog is pretty reasonable in this industry. Many machines from many pinball manufacturers have build queues longer than that. At least with us, you know that up front, and anybody interested can get in the queue now and shrink the time between new game announcements and delivery of their machine. ... and when we show off new games, a lot of people are going to wish they had. Then, when we announce future titles, a new batch of people will be lamenting the wait and wishing they'd already gotten in line today while all of you are enjoying each new game.
- Gerry
https://www.multimorphic.com

I absolutely love this answer. What a great and natural way to reward the existing user base and incentivize ownership.

#2059 61 days ago

You know P3 is still the only pinball that can play vs online?! weird right :-p

#2060 60 days ago
Quoted from northvibe:

You know P3 is still the only pinball that can play vs online?! weird right :-p

Which P3 games have that feature?

#2061 60 days ago
Quoted from clempo:

I'm not sure I understand the strategy to announce two new titles this year when they are struggling with the backlog on Weird Al

I'm not sure I understand the desire for them not to announce two PF modules. Look at the line for toy story or Scooby Doo... Why should MM be any different?

Sorry guys, the backlog is here to stay. For long term grown of the platform, I hope the backlog never gets shorter than 6mo

#2062 60 days ago

I've probably still got at least a 4 month wait from a day one order on Weird Al and a P3 system but honestly stern's wait for a deadpool 2 years ago was just around the same. Happy to wait though because the concept of the P3 just grows on me more with the more modules that come out.

#2063 60 days ago
Quoted from clempo:

Which P3 games have that feature?

CCR - Cosmic cart racing has online vs play up to 4 players! I've played 1 game online vs Silver on discord. was fun to be playing and yelling at eachother like when you played mario kart 4player on n64 lol

#2064 60 days ago

What was the wait time for Weird Al module for existing P3 owners?

#2065 60 days ago
Quoted from paulbaptiste:

What was the wait time for Weird Al module for existing P3 owners?

I ordered within the first *second* of orders opening, and I just got mine a few weeks ago...

Edit: Just double checked: Delivered December 17.

- Mark

#2066 57 days ago
Quoted from northvibe:

CCR - Cosmic cart racing has online vs play up to 4 players! I've played 1 game online vs Silver on discord. was fun to be playing and yelling at eachother like when you played mario kart 4player on n64 lol

That and the Twitch integration is really cool. Some games you can log onto Twitch when someone is streaming and mess up their game - make the playfield go black, slow down their car, etc.

Also Ranger in the Ruins pulls data from other instances of the game (ie other players) when it shows the “ghosts”.

#2067 56 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Some games you can log onto Twitch when someone is streaming and mess up their game - make the playfield go black, slow down their car, etc.

I believe this has been integrated in every released game, aside from Grand Slam Rally, ROCs, and LL-Secret Agent Showdown. All of my games include unique interactions with Twitch (if enabled). Part of the fun of developing that feature for a game is trying to think of fun and engaging things for people to do to help or hinder the streamer.

As you mention, you can also use this feature to help or hinder people in your household. A lot of fun as an observer or as a streamer.

#2068 56 days ago

Just read the MM email. Scott Danesi as the creative director for the next module?! Awesome!!

#2069 56 days ago
Quoted from Cloud7:

Just read the MM email. Scott Danesi as the creative director for the next module?! Awesome!!

That's great news! Super excited for whatever is headed our way this year.

#2070 55 days ago

Does anyone know if there is a P3 on route anywhere in San Diego? I’ll be heading there for work and would love to try one. Glad I’m already in the queue as I assume (and hope) the Scott Danesi announcement will spur more base orders.

#2071 51 days ago

What is the average wait time for a game to ship after being paid in full?

#2072 51 days ago
Quoted from paulbaptiste:

What is the average wait time for a game to ship after being paid in full?

errr i thought it was within a few weeks? ship time is out of their hands but it should be close to ship if you pay

#2073 51 days ago
Quoted from northvibe:

errr i thought it was within a few weeks? ship time is out of their hands but it should be close to ship if you pay

I believe it’s 3-4 weeks if done directly through MM.

Unless the game was bought through a distributor. In that case you’d have to ask your distro.

#2074 51 days ago
Quoted from MrMikeman:

I believe it’s 3-4 weeks if done directly through MM.

Right, it's generally up to about 3 weeks from when we receive the payment. We invoice when the machine is hitting the line. If everybody in the batch pays immediately, some will take longer than others. If some people take a while to pay, then others will get expedited.

- Gerry
https://www.multimorphic.com

#2075 50 days ago

Hey fellow Canadians with a P3? Any of you buy it from MM directly? How did you handle shipping (who)?

Shipping to the border for a U.S. pickup isn't really a possibility for me. I can pick up from a local terminal (Ottawa) or home delivery($$$) but really have no idea who to contact for shipping. MM will arrange for the broker but shipping company is up to me. Not sure where to start! I'd rather NOT use Fedex ground as I'm sure it would be insanely more expensive than a regular shipping company but maybe I am wrong since brokerage is handled independently?

#2076 50 days ago
Quoted from MrMikeman:

Hey fellow Canadians with a P3? Any of you buy it from MM directly? How did you handle shipping (who)?
Shipping to the border for a U.S. pickup isn't really a possibility for me. I can pick up from a local terminal (Ottawa) or home delivery($$$) but really have no idea who to contact for shipping. MM will arrange for the broker but shipping company is up to me. Not sure where to start! I'd rather NOT use Fedex ground as I'm sure it would be insanely more expensive than a regular shipping company but maybe I am wrong since brokerage is handled independently?

I was hoping MM would give suggestions. Are you the first to ship to Canada? Can these guys help? https://shipmypinball.com/

#2077 50 days ago
Quoted from clempo:

I was hoping MM would give suggestions. Are you the first to ship to Canada? Can these guys help? https://shipmypinball.com/

Actually Gerry got back to me. I misunderstood. The broker will handle it all, unless I prefer alternate arrangements (my choice of broker/shipper) and then I'd be on my own. I also asked about modules since they are/should be simpler to ship. I ordered all modules but they are delayed so I was curious of the arrangement. The preferred outcome would have been a double pallet with the game and all modules together to save on overall shipping but I get it that it's not feasible right now. No biggie.

#2078 50 days ago

I have a P3, I bought the cabinet here but i get the modules shipped from Multimorphic to Shippsy.com which gives you a NY address for them to ship to and then they charge a small fee to bring into into one of the Canadian depots where you can pickup... They will ask you (not the shipper) for the value and country of origin and you pay the HST to them.

I have shipped full machines this way as well and its the cheapest way to ship games into Canada from the US.

There are several other companies that do the same thing - this company here looks like they service Ottawa:

https://www.kinek.com/cross-border-shopping/

Quoted from MrMikeman:

Hey fellow Canadians with a P3? Any of you buy it from MM directly? How did you handle shipping (who)?
Shipping to the border for a U.S. pickup isn't really a possibility for me. I can pick up from a local terminal (Ottawa) or home delivery($$$) but really have no idea who to contact for shipping. MM will arrange for the broker but shipping company is up to me. Not sure where to start! I'd rather NOT use Fedex ground as I'm sure it would be insanely more expensive than a regular shipping company but maybe I am wrong since brokerage is handled independently?

#2079 50 days ago
Quoted from ShinyNick:

I have a P3, I bought the cabinet here but i get the modules shipped from Multimorphic to Shippsy.com which gives you a NY address for them to ship to and then they charge a small fee to bring into into one of the Canadian depots where you can pickup... They will ask you (not the shipper) for the value and country of origin and you pay the HST to them.
I have shipped full machines this way as well and its the cheapest way to ship games into Canada from the US.
There are several other companies that do the same thing - this company here looks like they service Ottawa:
https://www.kinek.com/cross-border-shopping/

This looks like the way to go for modules. Can they bring the P3 to my door?

#2080 50 days ago
Quoted from clempo:

This looks like the way to go for modules. Can they bring the P3 to my door?

Shipsy is for pickup in the Toronto area only. The other shipping solution that was linked only ship to the US side near the border. You have to pick up.

Gerry mentioned that the broker will bring the game to my door. You and I can discuss offline or on Discord to keep this thread clear.

#2081 50 days ago

Streaming some P3 tonight! You get to vote on a bunch of the different games we can play on the CCR playfield. Live at 8 Eastern: http://www.twitch.tv/buffalopinball

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#2082 49 days ago

Invoiced and paid! Woot! Now the exciting wait for the shipping notification

#2083 49 days ago
Quoted from MrMikeman:

Invoiced and paid! Woot! Now the exciting wait for the shipping notification

What was your invoice number?

#2084 49 days ago
Quoted from Dahawk007:

What was your invoice number?

1360

#2085 49 days ago

Something weird is scheduled to be delivered in 2 days. I hope I’m going to ENJOY IT!

#2086 48 days ago

My new P3 with the Weird Al package installed is arriving today! For other NIB games I usually just leave them in the box and slide them down my stairs by myself with no problem. I'm a little apprehensive about doing it that way with the P3. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks.

#2087 48 days ago
Quoted from Flippersaurus:

My new P3 with the Weird Al package installed is arriving today! For other NIB games I usually just leave them in the box and slide them down my stairs by myself with no problem. I'm a little apprehensive about doing it that way with the P3. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks.

The box for the P3 is not like other NIBs. It's a shell with top and bottom "lids". All held together by being strapped to the pallet. If you cut the straps the box is no longer a box. Either you can slide it down on the pallet or you will need to take it off the pallet and just bring the game down by itself. In either case I don't think you should do it alone. It's just that heavy. I bring my games downstairs alone also on my Escalera but I won't for this game (getting mine in a few weeks). It's of similar weight to my WOZ and that ended up being scary - and we were 2!

Others have mentioned removing the PF and module helps with making the weight more manageable.

Search youtube for "unboxing a P3" and you will see how it ships.

#2088 47 days ago
Quoted from MrMikeman:

The box for the P3 is not like other NIBs. It's a shell with top and bottom "lids". All held together by being strapped to the pallet. If you cut the straps the box is no longer a box. Either you can slide it down on the pallet or you will need to take it off the pallet and just bring the game down by itself. In either case I don't think you should do it alone. It's just that heavy. I bring my games downstairs alone also on my Escalera but I won't for this game (getting mine in a few weeks). It's of similar weight to my WOZ and that ended up being scary - and we were 2!
Others have mentioned removing the PF and module helps with making the weight more manageable.
Search youtube for "unboxing a P3" and you will see how it ships.

Just adding a +1 to MrMikeman's comments. Please do not do move a P3 downstairs alone.

I now have a walkout, but if I was still in my old house I would:

1) Have a pinball party with at least 4 friends/victims.
2) After their arrival, inform friends/victims that the price of the pinball party is hard labor.
3) Unbox the P3, remove playfield module to lighten the load.
4) Strap the P3 to an appliance dolly.
5) Run a rope through the appliance dollies handles.
6) Have 2 f/v's grab the rope on each side of the dolly.
7) With f/v's holding the rope tight, push the P3/dolly over the first step, and lay it down on the stairs.
8) Have f/v's slowly release the rope, letting P3/dolly slide to the bottom.
9) Go downstairs, move P3/dolly out of the way, drink beer, set-up the P3, drink beer, play P3, drink beer...

I'm sorry for my ridiculously long description. But I actually used this technique on many pinball machines and arcade games. It keeps everyone safe upstairs and no one has to play catcher.

- Mark

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#2089 41 days ago

Looks like a strong team and original concept. I’m excited to see it! Is it best to order the module direct through multimorphic? Do they do it like spooky where order opens and you get in line based off order processed?

https://fb.watch/iJW6eG5rqe/?mibextid=5zvaxg

#2090 41 days ago
Quoted from Happy81724:

Looks like a strong team and original concept. I’m excited to see it! Is it best to order the module direct through multimorphic? Do they do it like spooky where order opens and you get in line based off order processed?
https://fb.watch/iJW6eG5rqe/?mibextid=5zvaxg

For Weird Al, they opened the ordering at 9am, and there were so many orders that it still took 6 months for orders from 9:01 to be sent! I've always ordered direct, never had an issue. They are excellent at communication and sticking to their word. Plus the games are out of control

#2091 41 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

For Weird Al, they opened the ordering at 9am, and there were so many orders that it still took 6 months for orders from 9:01 to be sent! I've always ordered direct, never had an issue. They are excellent at communication and sticking to their word. Plus the games are out of control

Thanks! Hopefully it’s less time than that

#2092 41 days ago
Quoted from Happy81724:

Thanks! Hopefully it’s less time than that

Not likely. They have way more P3s out in the open now - more ppl ready to buy modules, and every pinhead knows who Scott Danesi is... I expect the same enthusiasm as with Weird Al.

#2093 41 days ago
Quoted from MrMikeman:

Not likely. They have way more P3s out in the open now - more ppl ready to buy modules, and every pinhead knows who Scott Danesi is... I expect the same enthusiasm as with Weird Al.

I guess I figured/hoping they ramped up their production based of this but maybe not. They have two games coming out this year. Backlog could be extreme if they haven’t increased their ability to produce more

#2094 41 days ago
Quoted from Happy81724:

I guess I figured/hoping they ramped up their production based of this but maybe not. They have two games coming out this year. Backlog could be extreme if they haven’t increased their ability to produce more

I am not affiliated with Multimorphic in any way. I am guessing that if you order a CARBON with the base machine the second the order window drops you will get your new P3 and module in 9-15 months. If you already have a P3 and you order just the module you could expect to get it in 3-9 months. I don't know this, and this is an educated guess based off of what I saw on Weird Al. My Weird Al and base came in about 11 months after I put down a deposit on it. Still waiting on the other modules I ordered but I'm hoping they show in the next few months.

#2095 41 days ago
Quoted from Happy81724:

I guess I figured/hoping they ramped up their production based of this but maybe not. They have two games coming out this year. Backlog could be extreme if they haven’t increased their ability to produce more

They have ramped up production - but I think it didn't scale up quite as quickly as they wanted. The full machine backlog is still about 12 months, but that's decreasing. If you already have a machine and are just getting a playfield module, it's WAY less time. Or order a Drained from Nick Baldridge, and he's slinging those out the door in a few weeks!

#2096 41 days ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

They have ramped up production - but I think it didn't scale up quite as quickly as they wanted. The full machine backlog is still about 12 months, but that's decreasing. If you already have a machine and are just getting a playfield module, it's WAY less time. Or order a Drained from Nick Baldridge, and he's slinging those out the door in a few weeks!

I have the machine and have 2 modules on order. Hoping they come later this month or early march! I’ll be there ordering this module day one unless it’s a crazy price but if it’s online with weird Al I am in 100 percent

#2097 41 days ago

This was discussed in the last Multimorphic update email. I think it said you can expect the queue for a base machine will be somewhat stable at 12 months as a result of the increase in production and the demand for the two announced games for this year.

#2098 41 days ago
Quoted from Happy81724:

I have the machine and have 2 modules on order. Hoping they come later this month or early march! I’ll be there ordering this module day one unless it’s a crazy price but if it’s online with weird Al I am in 100 percent

They are all around the same price range - the Al LE was more because of the topper obviously, so it should be pretty close

#2099 40 days ago

New P3 owner here- I love everything about it so far, but I’m unfamiliar with these flipper mechanisms. My right flipper is set higher than it should be - what is the right way to adjust/lower the flipper?

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#2100 40 days ago

Hard to link via mobile but Multimorphic website has a support side has a guide on this

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