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Moving to New Jersey


By Ranhorton

4 years ago



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    #101 4 years ago
    Quoted from pinball4ever:

    Man, this sucks.
    I look at this thread to see why there's so much interest in someone moving to NJ and see that it's Ran. NJ better be ready for one of the nicest guys you will ever meet. We will hate to see him disappear from the Madison pinball scene, but understand that family comes first. I'm not surprised he's being snatched away.
    Best of luck to you and your family Ran! It was great getting to know you.
    Todd

    great... a "nice guy" moving to jersey... dammit, we don't need carriers of the "nice guy" gene here...

    seriously though, always good to have another pinguy in the state... we do have a rather large contingent here...

    #102 4 years ago

    you could also move to NY

    #103 4 years ago
    Quoted from ccotenj:

    great... a "nice guy" moving to jersey... dammit, we don't need carriers of the "nice guy" gene here...

    Give him 1 year and the traffic alone will turn him into a beast.

    #104 4 years ago
    Quoted from pinball4ever:

    Man, this sucks.
    I look at this thread to see why there's so much interest in someone moving to NJ and see that it's Ran. NJ better be ready for one of the nicest guys you will ever meet. We will hate to see him disappear from the Madison pinball scene, but understand that family comes first. I'm not surprised he's being snatched away.
    Best of luck to you and your family Ran! It was great getting to know you.
    Todd

    Thanks Todd
    I'm gonna miss you guys too but will definitely be back to visit.
    Hopefully for the Waunna Bowl Tourney and Mad Rollin Tourney!
    Needless to say, all you Wisconsin guys have a place to stay in NJ.
    -Ran

    #105 4 years ago
    Quoted from thedefog:

    Give him 1 year and the traffic alone will turn him into a beast.

    that was one place where i was ahead of the game when i moved here.... i moved here from lon gisland, so i was already beaten down...

    i don't let it bother me... i figure i'll get where i'm going eventually... part of living in civilization means that there are gonna be some unpleasantries to deal with...

    it also helps to know the pinelands like the back of my hand... there are many different ways of getting to the shore without having to deal with other people...

    #106 4 years ago
    Quoted from Gwaxt72:

    you could also move to NY

    I've been thinking about that option as well but hoping to keep my commute as short/manageable as possible since I have two young kids and long commutes steal time away from them.
    Over the boarder along the Hudson River is quite pretty but I worry that the commute will be 1 hour+.

    #107 4 years ago
    Quoted from Ranhorton:

    I've been thinking about that option as well but hoping to keep my commute as short/manageable as possible since I have two young kids and long commutes steal time away from them.
    Over the boarder along the Hudson River is quite pretty but I worry that the commute will be 1 hour+.

    Where Gwaxt and I live the schools are awesome, we're routinely in the top 5 safest places in the country to live and this year, my town was named top 10 (7 I believe) place in entire US to live by CNN/money mag. 60% of the County is wilderness. And not an hour to Seacacus. I escaped NJ for paradise.

    Check it out.

    #108 4 years ago

    Too far for him.

    #109 4 years ago
    Quoted from ccotenj:

    i moved here from lon gisland, so i was already beaten down...

    It is hard to imagine worst traffic than in NJ, but those that travel the Belt and SS Parkway have it worse. I hate those roads more than any in America, have spent more time sitting in dead stopped traffic on those two roads than any others.

    #110 4 years ago
    Quoted from Ranhorton:

    all you Wisconsin guys have a place to stay in NJ.
    -Ran

    Do I get to cuddle with you and the wife when I visit?

    -also quoting this so I can remind you when I show up with a 4th game and a case of burbon at your house warming party

    #111 4 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    Do I get to cuddle with you and the wife when I visit?

    Go to Ocean Grove for that.

    #112 4 years ago
    Quoted from thedefog:

    It is hard to imagine worst traffic than in NJ, but those that travel the Belt and SS Parkway have it worse. I hate those roads more than any in America, have spent more time sitting in dead stopped traffic on those two roads than any others.

    true dat... and none of the other parkways are any bargain either, nor is the LIE or the BQE... or just about any major road there...

    it's one of the 2 reasons i moved*... i lived in huntington station and worked for chemical bank at the time... i was "split" between jericho and downtown manhattan (alternated weeks)... so i either spent 2 hours on the lirr/subway train/walking to the office, or an hour (at a minimum) driving what, 12 or 13 miles? manhattan was fine, i could sleep for an hour on the lirr, and it did NOT suck to be 21 years old and working in downtown manhattan... but i coulda walked home faster from jericho sometimes faster than driving home...

    and forget actually going anywhere that ISN'T on the island or in the city... that's 2 hours to start the trip, just to get off the reservation...

    * reason 2 was that the cost of living from a real estate perspective was just stupid...

    #113 4 years ago

    Actually Edgewater might be good. Nice view of the City and close to work....
    ...don't know about the schools though...

    #114 4 years ago
    Quoted from ccotenj:

    and it did NOT suck to be 21 years old and working in downtown manhattan...

    Yep, been there and done that, don't miss it at all though. Used to walk to my job on 34th & 6th ave. from NYPS. Didn't mind the train, but hated the changeover at newark & the cost.

    #115 4 years ago
    Quoted from ibuypinballs:

    Almost forgot. ALLENTOWN!!!Pinfest

    hey thats in PA.

    #116 4 years ago

    Oh No! the only state you have to pay to get out!

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    #118 4 years ago
    Quoted from ccotenj:

    i moved here from lon gisland, so i was already beaten down...

    I can NOT believe you would say this...I LOVE lon gisland!!!

    #119 4 years ago
    Quoted from Vic_Camp:

    but plan on a 3 bedroom, 1 1/2 bath, one car garage going for around $400,000 to $500,000 with taxes near $12,000 per year.

    Quoted from Lermods:

    I'd imagine that this must be a massive shock to someone living in the mid-west or the south. Out where I live in "central" NJ, you might pay the same property taxes, but get a 4-5 br, 2.5-3 ba house with maybe 1/2-1 acre of land, no traffic and decent schools. still shockingly high, but a bit better than in the North. Only time I really go North is to pick up a pin, or in transit to go skiing.

    Most employers that recruit/transfer someone from out of state take the cost of living into account when moving to a new area. A 20-40% salary differential is not out of the question. Plus there are incentive bonuses to help.

    #120 4 years ago

    Welcome to NJ,

    Buy my house so i can leave this is legit.

    #121 4 years ago

    Welcome to NJ!!!
    I grew up in Morris County and loved it there, but it's now very pricey in every way described on this post. I now live in Monmouth county, but that's probably a bit too far for your commute to Secaucus, although a lot of my neighbors work in NYC.

    Commuting via NJ Transit to Secaucus via different lines is recommended, versus driving and parking there. Therefore, I would recommend Bergen or Morris county (possibly Middlesex), mostly due to having the best school districts. Investment in the correct NJ property will be costly, but if chosen wisely, you will likely make money on the resell.

    Another good aspect of NJ is that gasoline tax is low, keeping gas prices reasonable and, you do not have to pump your own gas.

    -2
    #122 4 years ago
    Quoted from Gatecrasher:

    A lot of people don't realize that New Jersey has the 2nd cheapest gas prices in the nation (and on top of that every gas station in New Jersey is full-service). No self-service gas stations are allowed in the state. However, a lot of other things are more expensive in New Jersey than in other states. People that live near the Pennsylvania border tend to buy their gas in New Jersey and their booze and cigarettes in PA. That's what I did.

    Aren't the attendants pretty rude when you don't tip them for dispensing gasoline into your vehicle?

    I've experienced this a number of times in New Jersey on the Parkway and Turnpike. Whenever I go there for work, I usually fly into Phila. and try to have my gas last until I cross over the Whitman Bridge. Then I use self-serve in the Sports Complex area.

    When I'm in New Jersey with my personal cars, I try to have enough gas to make it through thestate. I don't want the gas station attendants scratching my car or stealing my credit cart information. Let alone hustle me for a tip.

    The other "no self-serve State"; Oregon, has much friendlier attendants as I find myself in Portland for work every so often.

    #123 4 years ago

    Welcome to NJ.

    It is not nearly as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Show me a well run state with no corruption, no poverty, no problems and I will move there. Until then, I will take NJ. Yes, property taxes are high, it can be expensive to buy a house, but the salaries are among the highest in the nation so that helps. The other knocks are if you like hunting, off-roading or shooting automatic weapons.

    Otherwise, you have cheaper pockets to live (central/south/west) and overall good schools (not my town, but I have no kids). You have a few pinball/arcades, the shore, the mountains, the city, the country. All walks of life, Newark has great restaurants and the Prudential center. Camden is a dump but has a great aquarium (so I have heard, I value my life and have never gone). You have lots of history. Sports are plenty. You got diners and Taylor ham, egg and cheese sandwiches. Great food in general, great mix of everything. Can it suck? Oh yeah. Any place can. I've been all over this country and found a lot of places I enjoyed but I have yet to find a place I can sincerely say is a far better place to live. Maybe because I was born and raised I am biased but until you find me that paradise of a state, you can find me in NJ.

    #124 4 years ago
    Quoted from thedefog:

    It is hard to imagine worst traffic than in NJ, but those that travel the Belt and SS Parkway have it worse. I hate those roads more than any in America, have spent more time sitting in dead stopped traffic on those two roads than any others.

    I spent enough time stuck on the LIE when my GF/now wife had family in Huntington Station.

    #125 4 years ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    Aren't the attendants pretty rude when you don't tip them for dispensing gasoline into your vehicle?
    I've experienced this a number of times in New Jersey on the Parkway and Turnpike. Whenever I go there for work, I usually fly into Phila. and try to have my gas last until I cross over the Whitman Bridge. Then I use self-serve in the Sports Complex area.
    When I'm in New Jersey with my personal cars, I try to have enough gas to make it through thestate. I don't want the gas station attendants scratching my car or stealing my credit cart information. Let alone hustle me for a tip.
    The other "no self-serve State"; Oregon, has much friendlier attendants as I find myself in Portland for work every so often.

    Seriously? Some of the cheapest gas you can buy ANYWHERE, pumped for you. Tip the guy a buck and see a terrific, appreciatve smile. Or be a ------.

    #126 4 years ago

    Ranhorton, Have your employer pay for a private academy for your children, including transportation. Problem solved. Then you can live in a luxury townhouse or home in Secaucus and not deal with the traffic unless you are leaving the area for something.

    When the low gas prices are cited, remember that the toll roads, bridges & tunnels bring your total cost to drive a mile higher than Wisconsin. Then there's the insurance and DMV registration fees. Maybe even a "city sticker" like most of the greater Chicago area scams motorists out of anothe $80-100 bucks a year in addition to license plate fees.

    #127 4 years ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    Aren't the attendants pretty rude when you don't tip them for dispensing gasoline into your vehicle?
    I've experienced this a number of times in New Jersey on the Parkway and Turnpike. Whenever I go there for work, I usually fly into Phila. and try to have my gas last until I cross over the Whitman Bridge. Then I use self-serve in the Sports Complex area.
    When I'm in New Jersey with my personal cars, I try to have enough gas to make it through thestate. I don't want the gas station attendants scratching my car or stealing my credit cart information. Let alone hustle me for a tip.
    The other "no self-serve State"; Oregon, has much friendlier attendants as I find myself in Portland for work every so often.

    I have lived in NJ for 45 years and never heard of tipping a gas attendant.

    #128 4 years ago
    Quoted from yzfguy:

    I have lived in NJ for 45 years and never heard of tipping a gas attendant.

    The gas is so damn cheap so I tip a buck every. Single. Time. And they seem to really appreciate it. It's a shitty job, and I'm glad I don't have to do it.

    I wouldn't do it for full serve in New York where you're literally paying $1 more per gallon.

    Different strokes man. I'm a big tipper in general. Worked for tips back in the day, changes you.

    #129 4 years ago
    Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

    Seriously? Some of the cheapest gas you can buy ANYWHERE, pumped for you. Tip the guy a buck and see a terrific, appreciatve smile. Or be a ------.

    Although I had to pump it myself, which I would rather do as it was my car; I paid this on January 2nd this year in Oklahoma City while driving back from the Cotton Bowl. I don't think New Jersey had prices like this. This was cash or credit; same low price.

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    #130 4 years ago

    Lowest I saw in Jersey was about $1.69. So we're comparable. Never tipped a guy at a station in my life, never got attitude about it. That behavior must be reserved for out of towners.

    #131 4 years ago

    I'm down at the shore. Don't be afraid to travel a bit. Monmouth County has some great schools, but homes and taxes are high. Ocean county may be a little far for you.

    #132 4 years ago

    I drove through NJ to get my SWE1 back in February and spent the night in Secaucus. It was a good place for a layover b/c I took Wifey into NYC for dinner and a show. Jeez, my EZpass got a workout up there - about $100 in tolls in one weekend driving from the DelMemBr to the north end of the parkway where it meets NY's free highways. That's all NJ tolls b/c I skipped the Delaware and Maryland toll booths via the simple alternate routes.

    -Rob
    -visit http://www.kahr.us to get my daughterboard that helps fix WPC pinball resets and for Williams sound board solutions

    #133 4 years ago
    Quoted from BestShot31:

    Another good aspect of NJ is that gasoline tax is low, keeping gas prices reasonable and, you do not have to pump your own gas.

    For now. They're chomping at the bit to raise it. But it definitely is a plus.

    #134 4 years ago
    Quoted from njgsx96:

    but the salaries are among the highest in the nation so that helps.

    True, but the cost of everything else even it out (taxes, housing costs). If I didn't have family around here, I'd move to TX.

    #135 4 years ago
    Quoted from Ranhorton:

    So me and my family are moving to the Garden State from Madison, WI in May and I'd love to get some insight from any of you NJ locals.
    I'm going to be working in Secaucus and just beginning my search for a home.
    Looking to live in the best school district we can afford (within a 20 mile radius of work) or at least in a town where every bar has a pinball machine in it
    Really, really sad to be leaving my Madison pinball crew but excited to meet all you Jersey pinballers.
    -Ran

    I was raised in a southern New Jersey town, Cherry Hill, a suburb of Philadelphia (about 40 miles from Atlantic City). New Jersey has some of the best beaches. The sand is soft (unlike the west coast beaches), the waves are great and the water is an inviting temperature. There are miles of boardwalk with soft water taffy and a few good arcades as well. Cultural events are easily accessible, with Philly only 10 miles away and NYC only 90 miles away.

    For 4 years, I lived in the Boston area for college and I resided in Atlanta for 3 years thereafter for graduate school. I liked southern New Jersey enough to return to begin my career and raise my family.

    Pinsider, CCotenj, and I live in nearby towns. He's in Collingswood and I'm in Voorhees. I agree with CCotenj that many New Jersey towns are quite nice, especially for families.

    Yes, property taxes are high. Yes, our governor uses our tax money to defend his bridgegate shenanigans and travel to Europe to enhance his political aspirations. But, gas prices are among the lowest in the nation. Yes, it's among the few states where the attendant must pump the gas. Access to health care specialists is nothing short of spectacular, with some of the best medical research institutions in our backyard.

    On the downside, New Jersey has adopted the Common Core PARCC standardized testing debacle. If you have kids in the public schools, be sure to opt out of the PARCC tests, which is your right! Feel free to send me a private message for more information. Another downer here in the southern part of the Garden State is our Philly Eagles, which self-destruct every football season, like clockwork. At least in Secaucus, you'll be around mostly Giants fans who have some recent Superbowl wins to the their credit.

    #136 4 years ago
    Quoted from ZNET:

    On the downside, New Jersey has adopted the Common Core PARCC standardized testing debacle. If you have kids in the public schools, be sure to opt out of the PARCC tests, which is your right! Feel free to send me a private message for more information. Another downer here in the southern part of the Garden State is our Philly Eagles, which self-destruct every football season, like clockwork. At least in Secaucus, you'll be around mostly Giants fans who have some recent Superbowl wins to the their credit.

    As a teacher, I'm sending you a high five for this paragraph.

    And F the Giants.

    #137 4 years ago

    ZNET, I agree with you 100%. I work at a school, PARCC was a freaking nightmare to implement for IT.

    I grew up in Moorestown & Delran. South Jersey is like a different state, much less frantic.

    Ran, wherever you end up, you'll have plenty of friendly fellow pinheads around. I can do board work in exchange for beer if you ever need stuff done (not a bad detour from Secacus to drop boards off).

    #138 4 years ago

    Get yourself an E-Z Pass too. You're gonna need it.

    As for common core, why on earth are we changing the way we are teaching the kids. 70-25=45. This has worked for centuries...why the sudden change?

    #139 4 years ago
    Quoted from Whysnow:

    Do I get to cuddle with you and the wife when I visit?
    -also quoting this so I can remind you when I show up with a 4th game and a case of burbon at your house warming party

    Too funny.
    Tell you what. You can cuddle if you promise not to get grand champ on all my games.

    #140 4 years ago

    Thanks again guys for all the insight.
    Tons for me to digest and looking forward to meeting my fellow NJ pinballers.
    And thanks for all the PMs too. I still need to reply to a bunch of you.
    Got a lot to figure out in the next few weeks but I think we're gonna fly out next week to start checking out a few towns once the relocation company gets back to me with a few things.

    On a side note, if anyone in Madison needs a pin shipped to the southwestern Connecticut area (or somewhere along the way that isn't a huge detour for me) let me know. I'm down to one pin and going to rent whatever the largest uhaul trailer is to take my ToM and some other valuables to my folks house in CT until we find a place in NJ.

    -Ran

    #141 4 years ago
    Quoted from Trekkie1978:

    As for common core, why on earth are we changing the way we are teaching the kids. 70-25=45. This has worked for centuries...why the sudden change?

    That is the "common core".

    They're not asking the kids any "trick" questions in the Common Core curriculum. Why people oppose ensuring every American kid can read and write at a the level they should be is beyond me? Now we have some states where you can graduate high school as an illiterate and people are actually fighting to keep it that way?

    It's no wonder American kids now days are some of the dumbest in the world and continue to slide. All the countries that are kicking our butts in education have educational standards their kids have to adhere to while the US has politicians fighting to dumb-down the curriculum and allow the kids to eat Krispy Kreme doughnuts for lunch instead of nutritious meals they might not find as "tasty".

    I think you'll find that the schools in most of New Jersey are pretty-good compared to others in the country.

    #142 4 years ago
    Quoted from Ranhorton:

    Too funny.
    Tell you what. You can cuddle if you promise not to get grand champ on all my games.

    I can't promise anything.

    #143 4 years ago

    Sorry to hear this.. You're just gonna love this crappy state. I hope you like paying out the a$$ in property taxes.

    #144 4 years ago
    Quoted from Gatecrasher:

    I think you'll find that the schools in most of New Jersey are pretty-good compared to others in the country.

    This is true, NJ schools are great for the most part. But prior to the common-core, we had consistently the best education in the country, so why fix something that isn't broken? I understand a need to have some standard to make sure all kids are getting the basic knowledge they need to survive, but the one size fits all approach does not work, everybody learns differently, and now teachers are no longer able to teach what they are passionate about and have to slave away to the CC and teach to tests, there is nothing fun or exciting about that. The best teachers are those that are passionate and excited about what they have to teach. So what if they stray a little from the path laid out in front? I remember more and learned more from just a handful of passionate teachers vs countless others phoning it in and going strictly by the books, those teachers I don't even remember their names, let alone what they taught. That is what makes a good teacher, lay out some general guidelines, but let them teach in a way that inspires others to learn.

    #145 4 years ago

    You know of what you speak, Young Grasshopper.

    #146 4 years ago
    Quoted from beelzeboob:

    You know of what you speak, Young Grasshopper.

    A grasshopper walks into a bar. The bartender says, "You know, we have a drink named after you!"
    The grasshopper says, "You have a drink named Steve?!"

    #147 4 years ago

    This opting out of the common core testing baffles me. To what end? This is a real question. What message is being sent? Because the message a I hear as a parent is "my kid can't cut it and I don't want them to feel stupid".

    Southern Jersey is definitely very pleasant and a world away from Northern. But outside the Newark corridor northern NJ is also quite wonderful.

    And I'll say it again, you'll love any town up the Palisades Parkway - and pay less when you hit NY - and you'll still be about 30 minutes or less from Secaucus. Traffic on the parkway south doesn't start building until about Route 3, which is the road into Secaucus. Same with the NJTP and even R1/9. In fact, from the north, Secaucus strikes me as a painless commute.

    #148 4 years ago

    White Castle right on 17 heading south before the meadowlands

    #149 4 years ago

    Look down my way. Park Ridge, Montvale, Mountain Lakes....lots of trees and mostly all highway to work.

    #150 4 years ago
    Quoted from TheCnyPinGuy:

    White Castle right on 17 heading south before the meadowlands

    That's ALL you need to know.

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