I can't speak for CFTBL but the machines I've moved up and down haven't been a problem. If you're worried mark the connectors so there can't be any mistakes when you put it back together. It's still a 2 man job. I'm sure others will have more to say.

Taking off the backbox is bad enough, but removing the playfield is even more of a pain in the a**. If you gotta do it, though, you gotta do it. Just make sure to carefully label everything you disconnect.

Congrats on the new game. If you were close, I'd help you get it up and set up. It's a 2 person job

Use the strap method. Bolt one strap into the left front leg holes, another into the right front leg holes. Put a guy on each side. Have another guy on the bottom, just in case something goes awry. Then have the two guys on top slide the machine on its bottom up the stairs. Very easy.

Have done this many times....until I found someone with a stair dolly who was kind enough to help me!

Take legs off transport up with two people on both ends if you need to turn set it down on one side twist into position and then go up two per side rest of the way. That would be the least trouble if possible. Or could try appliance dolly not sure how that works as I have never used one. Either way you do it good luck!

I've never tried this but thought about doing it the first time I had to take one up stairs. Sounds like it would work well to me.

Eh? Easy stuff. Too guys, one on each end. Throw a blanket over the machine to protect it and your walls. The machine only weighs 250lbs give or take.

Most of mine get beheaded when I move them due to my transportation. In those events pulling the pf is stupdily easy (Heck I do it with the machine hanging out of my hatchback). An empty cab is peanuts, I use my 105lb fiance to pull it up the stairs after I take the pf and head up myself.

I want to see someone try to drag an Operation Thunder up some stairs in this way. I think our stairs would break, not even joking.

I was going to remove my backbox to move my pin up a staircase/doorway/90 degree turn but decided to make a different room my game room instead. It seemed like a lot of work.

If the backbox is too wide then I suppose that could come off but I don't understand at all why you would take take the playfield out...weight I suppose? Invest in an appliance dolly. They make such a difference you wouldn't believe it until you use one.

Legs off, fold the head down, strap it to an appliance dolly. One guy up top, one guy on the bottom. It's not as hard as it seems like it would be. As long as you have that dolly...

Fold the head, remove the legs, use a fridge cart with strap and a friend.

Just got to respect this guy. Just the other day someone started a thread something like why own pins, I just drop quarters. I take my hat off to you my friend.

Pull the PF and take it up stairs ! It is a 15 minute job to put back in and that is taking your time !

You only have about 13 connectors to unplug .

If you have two people get on the side and prop the PF almost straight up and lift out .

To put it back in just stand up the pf and drop right back in, it lines up it self ,no worries .

I leave off the glass and lock down . Cabinet is so much lighter .

Good luck

Jim

Hey,

I bought a dolly that has something like 13 inch wheels on it. Still a two person job, but I was able to get a Shadow out of a fellow's basement relatively easily. Had there not been a landing halfway up, I could have done it in one piece; as it was, I couldn't make the corner with the backbox on. In the future, I'll probably wrap them in a moving blanket.

Luke

I leave the front legs on, but have the back sitting on a horse (and another one waiting where I'm transporting it to so I can set it down). Then I can put the back legs back on with ease, lift it up, kick the horse out of the way, set it back down.

I can see why you went through the upstairs window with your other pin.

Well now that's a staircase! If I were you I'd remove the head and the pf, and like someone suggested the playfield glass too. An empty cabinet is quite light and manageable. It's only connectors and if you lable them it's easy to re-connect. Think of it as a way to get better acquainted with your game

Good Luck!

The picture of the stairs really says it all. I wouldn't attempt that by yourself. How are you going to get the beer fridge up there? If you are going to use a cheap dolly make sure you inflate the tires to 50 psi.

"knock down this fargin wall, knock down this fargin wall"

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That house and this hobby will not get along.

Now that I have seen the stairs I change my advice to - move the game room to the main level

Wowzers! Yeah, my method wouldn't work for those stairs. Mine are a straight shot.

You can rent a stair climbing dolly at many rental places. If you got more pins up there you may want to buy one but they are expensive. It's just a two wheel cart that climbs stairs with the help of an electric motor. They work great but I would have two people for safety on those stairs.

Dutch people should not own pins! You hear me, Robin?!?

Those are not stairs ! That is a ladder ! Wow , take the machine apart and save you and a friends life ! Seriously .

Jim

Swap rooms, those are steep. I was going to suggest a dolly as well that is what I use. Then i got to your photo. I am not sure you have enough step for the climbing dollys to work on the bend.

I did buy a poly strapping kit the other day. Great buy. It was $58 for 3,000' of strap and like 500 clips with a manual tightening handle/cutter. Works great, no parts sticking out like with a cargo strap. The other thing people that move pins should get is a roll of that plastic wrap. It will save a lot of scratchs and I like it better than a blanket because it has more grip on the pin.

What about using something like this, I have been thinking of getting one:

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200381541_200381541

Yea, I would do one of these two things. Pretty crazy stair case indeed!

What about using something like this, I have been thinking of getting one:

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200381541_200381541

Because of how heavy a pin is, I think you would be better off with something that has a strap. I use one very similar to this, and it works great ...

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Make sure they are fully insured before having them attempt it!

Yowzer! that is one sharp turn on that staircase.

That pulley system is sweet!

Have you thought about leaving the pins on the main level?

Congrats of the CFTBL. I love that machine.

To be completely honest with you, call a Piano Mover and have it moved professionally. They have the equipment, the strong guys and the insurance.

Here in the States, we have Amusement companies who will carry a game up/down stairs too, but I used Piano Movers several times. They charged me $120 USD for transport and stairs.

Glad it all worked out in the end and nobody got injured in the process Apekop!!!!

Good job a lot of people would have said no room for pins could not possibly get one upstairs.....great determination!!