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Motor break problem (Fish Tales)

By soren

9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago
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soren

Dots and Loops

DK Copenhagen

13y 80,050 1,377

I would like to ask if anybody is able to help me on an issue with the (DC motor controlled) Fish Tales reel stopping too late.

When it releases balls for multiball start the rotation is sometimes stopping so far too late that the ball cannot roll out of the mech.

Please review the photos.

I assume the reel is set to stop by the tailedge of the interruptor to the opto switch. That is when the switch closes. But I could not know for sure, as my unit is all over the place. Tested with the metal place removed for visual inspection.

Any ideas or experience with similar problems are welcome.

I should add, that I have replaced the belt and it is very tight.

I should also add, that I have tried to move the opto switch (reference point) without much changing if anything.

My own ideas for a fix.

1. Alter the motor EMI circuit to improve the motor break or make the motor rotate slower.

2. Widen the mounting holes of the metal plate and mount it further in the direction of the rotation.

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#2 9 years ago
 
RAB

Nintendoguy1982

Pinside member

US San Diego, CA

9y 23,400 63 2

are the opts clean?
and is your belt the clear one from macro?
i replaced my belt with the clear one from that site and it seems to be the perfect tension.

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#3 9 years ago
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soren

Dots and Loops

DK Copenhagen

13y 80,050 1,377

Hi, thanks for the reply.

Yes and no.

Optos are cleaned and the switch test and reel test checks out.

I replaced the belt with a standard black pinball rubber ring. And cleaned the tallies. The tension seems perfect.

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#4 9 years ago
 
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cody_chunn

Inactive member

US Mobile, AL

9y 64,800 4,520

Replace the belt with the proper item. Rubber rings shouldn't be used on this mech.

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#5 9 years ago
 
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fiberdude120

Pinside member

10y 78,650 3,369 4

I know you think that black rubber is working great. But it probably is not.

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#6 9 years ago
 
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Nintendoguy1982

Pinside member

US San Diego, CA

9y 23,400 63 2

someone also told me they use the rubber ring,
but in my mind thats the same as using the wrong tool to remove a bolt
you might just f something up. its like 3 bucks. but who knows
you fix that and then its something else, clean the opts with a q tip
and alcohol, and make sure the wires have good contact on the switch before it goes into
the reel.

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#7 9 years ago
 
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nighttaco

Pinside member

US Colorado Springs, CO

10y 47,400 735 6 9

has to be an opto, but I would replace the rubber ring as well....

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#8 9 years ago
 
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Marten

Pinside member

12y 77,550 878

I think Clay also used a normal rubber ring in one of his PinballNinja repairs.

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#9 9 years ago
 
MBG

Marten

Pinside member

12y 77,550 878

Yep, he uses a 3,5" rubber ring. Black or white. It's in repair #698.

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#10 9 years ago
 
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PinsideTroll

Inactive member

US New Castle, DE

10y 49,650 937 12 10

its probably the belt. rubber ring is nowhere near as strong as the belt thats supposed to be on there. rubber rings will slip a little so it wont line up right. had same issue on mine. person who had it before me put rubber ring on it and i replaced it. problem went away. marco sells them pretty cheap, 3-4 bucks

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#11 9 years ago
 
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pinballplusMN

Pinball Plus Inc.

11y 84,800 2,586

I would check the plastic pulley on the motor. Ive seen these go bad as well where they get stripped. They shouldnt move at all when attaches to the motor.

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#12 9 years ago
 
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fiberdude120

Pinside member

10y 78,650 3,369 4

Quoted from pinballplusMN:

I would check the plastic pulley on the motor. Ive seen these go bad as well where they get stripped. They shouldnt move at all when attaches to the motor.

My plastic pulley was slipping on mine also. Had to replace it.

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#13 9 years ago
 
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Rob_G

Pinside member

CA Regina, SK

9y 99,300 5,329 3 6

Quoted from pinballplusMN:

I would check the plastic pulley on the motor. Ive seen these go bad as well where they get stripped. They shouldnt move at all when attaches to the motor.

This 1000% !

Rob

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#14 9 years ago
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soren

Dots and Loops

DK Copenhagen

13y 80,050 1,377

I will be happy to try a replacement belt that is claimed to be the correct one next time I am ordering from a vendor stocking one. But I will be very surprised if that is the problem. And I will post a public apology if so.

Thanks for the replies.

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#15 9 years ago
 
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king-pin

Pinside member

AU Kalgan

11y 81,600 902 50 22

My FT was doing the same thing,replaced the drive belt with new one and was good as new.

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