In anticipation of Steve Ritchie's forthcoming Black Knight: Sword of Rage, which may outdo them all, what do you think is his most brutal playing game to date? What about it qualifies it as such for you?
If voting "Other", feel free to post your choice and reason(s).
Although GoT and SW typically show me no mercy, I'm going to vote AC/DC for its consistently FAST ball times for me.
Quoted from Alamo_Pin:How is F-14 Tomcat not on the list?
Brutal game!!
Doh! It was, but I accidentally left it out when I had to redo the poll. NOW re-added so vote away!
AC/DC is brutal
I wish they’d code a mini wizard mode upon completion of 6 tracks
Then maybe I’d like the game more, keeping it mainly as I love the band
My vote goes to Firepower. The standups are all sucker shots that blast the ball right back at you, yet hitting them is a necessity.
Honorable mention goes to F14. That Yagov kicker is an ass kicker, but the ball save lessens the drain pain.
Have not played firepower enough to know - but IMO it’s Star Wars. Can’t even get 3 minutes on that thing
F14 brutal and my favorite SR game, it was also my first game so it holds a special place.
It has been quite a while since I last played an F-14 Tomcat, but I want to check it out again now given all the votes it has received.
Quoted from PinballCharlie:STTNG. One word: outlanes.
GoT can be brutal if you accidentally hit the stand up targets directly since everything is so close to the flippers.
Second word: Delta ramp, if the ball doesn't make it up the ramp, goes straight down the right outlane.
Third word: Beta ramp, don't make it up the ramp, SDTM.
For some reason the layout in Star Wars always results in the stand ups quickly sending balls to the trough.. unfortunately they are needed if you want to get to wizard mode.. mean..
Quoted from PinballCharlie:STTNG. One word: outlanes.
GoT can be brutal if you accidentally hit the stand up targets directly since everything is so close to the flippers.
This is the main reason I sold mine. I even had the extended outlane plastics and it didn't seem to help.
Quoted from Rum-Z:I've played them all and #1 & #2 are Star Wars and STTNG. I think Star Wars is slightly worse due to the multplier bank rebounds draining. The STTNG outlanes are brutal AF though. I also own AC/DC Premium. As brutal as AC/DC is, I don't think it's as bad as SW and STTNG.
Pinbits sells sttng outlane extenders that greatly improve the fun factor in STTNG.. what are you going to do about SW?
Sell it, that’s what..
Quoted from knockerlover:Pinbits sells sttng outlane extenders that greatly improve the fun factor in STTNG.. what are you going to do about SW?
Sell it, that’s what..
I love SW - brutality and all! It has been a real dark horse for me as I kind of stumbled into owning one, but I love the shots, flow, and even the multiplier options now that I understand the rules.
Quoted from Tuna_Delight:I love SW - brutality and all! It has been a real dark horse for me as I kind of stumbled into owning one, but I love the shots, flow, and even the multiplier options now that I understand the rules.
I love the rules, but lots of power drains off the stand ups..
Star Wars is freaking tough. All those timed ramps, all those side missions.. man gives me sweats and high blood pressure.
Quoted from Oneangrymo:Star Wars is freaking tough. All those timed ramps, all those side missions.. man gives me sweats and high blood pressure.
It’s kind of like playing attack from mars and track and field at the same time..
Quoted from guymontag451:Anyone that didn't vote for F14 just hasn't played it.
I was able to get a feel for that one. Learn where & what to shoot and the ball seldom goes near the outlanes. Controlled chaos. When I owned one I rolled it several times (with factory extra ball settings).
F14 by a mile. Not even close. The most unforgiving game ever. "Now you d...d...di....die!!!!"
Agreed. Not even close. f-14 is the fastest game ever made. Brutal indeed, almost cruel even. If you have not played one you need to. Lightning fast!
but when you get it all wound up and playing your palms start to sweat and your heart races...oh yea thats the Steve Richie goodness right there. 
..great game.
Star Wars, definitely.
F/14? Just a drain monster. It's fast because there is nothing there. I don't think that is what is meant by brutal here. It was early in his career and he was learning. Weak rules and shots and easy drains.
AC/DC? Super fun game that many would argue is one of the best Sterns ever. But I don't think there is anything particularly brutal about it. It's just fun.
STTNG? Another super fun game, top rated. But brutal? No, it's just fun and a great game overall.
But Star Wars in particular? It has the easier shots to the really hard shot (Death Star.) That is a brutal shot and you're frequently in a position when you need to make it! It has a deep rule set with risk reward all over. It lacks a bit on toys compared to some of the above games but it makes up for it in the brutal department. Big bonus points on theme, video clips, and call outs.
Suprised to see Star Wars mentioned so often. The one locally plays long and I avoid choosing it for league because of that. Well and because I don’t think it’s all that fun
I went F-14 over STTNG because I am usually pretty good at keeping the ball out of the Hoover & Kirby outlanes. F-14 ass rapes me to this day. I can get a good score, but genrally, in tornament, this is a bad title for me... it can go either way, but 2 house balls are not uncommon for me.
Quoted from JMcDonald:AC/DC? Super fun game that many would argue is one of the best Sterns ever. But I don't think there is anything particularly brutal about it. It's just fun.
I’m curious by your reply if you have ever played Acdc. If you need to hit the TNT targets (yes) you are risk of instant death, Thunder stand up targets? Again risk instant death. Side drop targets with cannon? You get the point.
Quoted from rai:I’m curious by your reply if you have ever played Acdc. If you need to hit the TNT targets (yes) you are risk of instant death, Thunder stand up targets? Again risk instant death. Side drop targets with cannon? You get the point.
compound this with the cannon blocking your view of the right outlane, really handicapping your ability to attempt saves..
Quoted from knockerlover:compound this with the cannon blocking your view of the right outlane, really handicapping your ability to attempt saves..
Not that I’m too good when I can actually see the ball but forget about it when it’s under the cannon.
The bell shot is not piece of cake either.
Quoted from knockerlover:compound this with the cannon blocking your view of the right outlane, really handicapping your ability to attempt saves..
This!! I'd own a ACDC Premium/vault if it wasn't for the stupid cannon placement over the inlane/outlane.
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