(Topic ID: 29548)

More Shadow problems


By Iceman

8 years ago



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#1 8 years ago

If its not one thing it's another with my pin. Here is what's wrong

1 My kicker on the battlefield will not work even in test mode. I put my MM up to the coil and got 6.9 ohms. Is that right?

2 my GI will not light behind the right ramp under the wall plastic.

3 I do not have any flashers anywhere in the game. When I turn the game on one flasher in the back glass and one on the playfield stays on until the game boots up.

I checked all the wires no cuts anywhere and they are connected tightly to the board. Thanks in advise for the advise and help.

#2 8 years ago
Quoted from Iceman:

If its not one thing it's another with my pin. Here is what's wrong
1 My kicker on the battlefield will not work even in test mode. I put my MM up to the coil and got 6.9 ohms. Is that right?

sounds fine. These issues are almost never the coil. Start by checking your fuses with your DMM. The flasher and low power solenoids could be on the same circuit.
Measure voltage at the coil with the coin door closed. Should have high power.

Quoted from Iceman:

2 my GI will not light behind the right ramp under the wall plastic.

Check for fuses here also. Check for burnt connectors at j120 and j121.

Quoted from Iceman:

3 I do not have any flashers anywhere in the game. When I turn the game on one flasher in the back glass and one on the playfield stays on until the game boots up.
I checked all the wires no cuts anywhere and they are connected tightly to the board. Thanks in advise for the advise and help.

see the fuse advice in #1. The flashers being stuck on sounds pretty bad. Could have some short. Not sure why they would go off when game boots up though. Perhaps reseat ribbon cables coming from CPU board.

#3 8 years ago

Thanks for the advise. I checked all the fuses on the driver board all were good. It's a rottendog board. I did replace the connectors at j120 and j121. I'll try resetting the cables and see if that works.

#4 8 years ago
Quoted from Iceman:

Thanks for the advise. I checked all the fuses on the driver board all were good. It's a rottendog board. I did replace the connectors at j120 and j121. I'll try resetting the cables and see if that works.

By checking them that means you pulled them off the board and used the dmm, right? Otherwise you didn't check them. You can't even reliably check them on the board. You definitely cannot eyeball them. Do you have 12 and 18v at those two test points on the board?

#5 8 years ago

Did this problem pop up just after you repaired/installed the board?

#6 8 years ago

I pulled the fuses to check them they all work. To tell the truth Seal I got it from a place where i used to work. and its was in storage for a long time. everything was dirty and I diden't want to plug it in before a good cleaning cause a couple of the connectors were burned. do you think it could be the board? but all the other coils and GI work.

#7 8 years ago

On the battlefield did you lift it and trace the wires coming off the kicker coil back, I say this because the solder connection at the coil can break or be weak. Most of the time they break off with all the movement back and forth.

#8 8 years ago

Battlefield does not fire unless ball crosses opto.

Check the optos in switch test

#9 8 years ago

I checked all optos are working good. The coil is wired nice and tight. I'm thinking all my problems are on my rottendog board.

#10 8 years ago

A long shot here but is it possible there is a connector that is not attached to one of the boards but is instead "lost" in the maze of backbox wires? (i.e. it is disconnected from the spot where it should be and is dangling or stuck somewhere)

I ask because I once had a WW with a board issue, sent it out for repairs, got it back and replaced the repaired board and immediately had a weird set of problems crop up with things like the DMD. I figured it was the board still. Turns out I had one of the connectors lodged BEHIND the board and of course it was not plugged in. D'oh! Plugged it in and all the gremlins vanished.

Took me an embarrassingly long time to figure that one out.

#11 8 years ago

Thanks for the advise Chill. I doubled checked all connnectors by both looking at the manual and unplugging then replugging them in. I'm gonna try another board. hopefully that will fix everything.

#12 8 years ago

I just fixed a Shadow that had the issue of kickup not working for the battlefield. Ended up being the mechanics below the DROP TARGET leading to the kickup needed to be adjusted. Essentially, the mechanics were not engaging the switch when the drop target was hit. I believe this caused the kickup to not trigger.

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