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Monster Bash Testing the water


By gpa_joe

8 months ago



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#1 8 months ago

I have a HUO MB. Would anyone have interest in a even swap for a MBR LE ?

Full disclosure still not convinced I want to make that trade but leaning heavily in that direction.

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#2 8 months ago

You may have to add cash to that deal.

#3 8 months ago

I don't know if anyone will take you up on that trade. The people who are buying the MBr are going to get an NIB pinball machine that has several upgrades an HUO or even beautifully restored MB just isn't gonna have, like the color changing GI, the upgraded display, and also the topper and nice looking armor with that sweet lockdown bar if the LE is selected. Unfortunately, the original MB isn't going to have any of those upgrades, and I don't think you're going to find any takers because of it. I own an original MB that I restored/refurbished myself, so I'm no original MB hater by any means, but this is just how I see it. Good luck though, on whatever you decide.

#4 8 months ago

I’d just sell your game then buy a MBr.

That being said, I bet most distributors would take your game in on trade. Doubt you get what you could selling it though.

#5 8 months ago

Doubt you’d find a straight up trade...

I know with AFM you would have to add money.
MM probably an even trade.
IMO of course.

#6 8 months ago

Good luck.

#7 8 months ago
Quoted from Rum-Z:

I don't know if anyone will take you up on that trade. The people who are buying the MBr are going to get an NIB pinball machine that has several upgrades a HUO or even beautifully restored MB just isn't gonna have, like the color changing GI, the upgraded display, and also the topper and nice looking armor with that sweet lockdown bar if the LE is selected. Unfortunately, the original MB isn't going to have any of those upgrades, and I don't think you're going to find any takers because of it. I own an original MB that I restored/refurbished myself, so I'm no original MB hater by any means, but this is just how I see it. Good luck though, on whatever you decide.

In all the MB I like that custom ‘planked’ one the best.
That playfield with the modern bells and whistles would be the best of both worlds.

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#8 8 months ago
Quoted from Pdxmonkey:

In all the MB I like that custom ‘planked’ one the best.
That playfield with the modern bells and whistles would be the best of both worlds.

Indeed. The wood planked art is awesome.

#9 8 months ago
Quoted from gpa_joe:

I have a HUO MB. Would anyone have interest in a even swap for a MBR LE ?
Full disclosure still not convinced I want to make that trade but leaning heavily in that direction.

Any interest in a trade for a WOZ 75th RR? And I'm local.

#10 8 months ago

I think you would be better off selling the MB and then buying a MBr. Distributors are in the business of making money so they are going to offer you substantially less than your MB is worth.

While I like the originals, they did add quite a few new features to the MBr (hence the reason you are thinking of switching), so it’s going to be a tough market (similar to AFM). I know because I recently sold my high end restored MB.

#11 8 months ago

I have no idea why someone would take you up on this. If they are a B/W purist, they aren’t going to be buying a MBr. Just sell it. Or wait. In a few months it won’t really matter anyway. It’s the same game!

#12 8 months ago

The water is cold.

#13 8 months ago

Maybe you can get $7000. I doubt $8000+ is possible.

#14 8 months ago

NIB means something, HUO 20 year old game doesn't. Without pictures, description, or any information this doesn't really mean much.

#15 8 months ago

I get there are purists out there that want the original, but the remakes are well built, have many big improvement, and of course "New"... in my opinion you would have to add quite a bit of cash to the deal...your better off selling and then ordering the LE

#16 8 months ago

With the price point of the standard edition, I dont think even 7k is obtainable. I believe that MB original will likely sit around the 6 - 6.5k mark.

Quoted from NorCalRealtor:

Maybe you can get $7000. I doubt $8000+ is possible.

#17 8 months ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

NIB means something, HUO 20 year old game doesn't. Without pictures, description, or any information this doesn't really mean much.

Oh, come on. Using HUO in this context implies almost perfect.

He isn't trying to sell it yet. He simply wants to know if an almost perfect, HUO MB might be worth what a MBr LE goes for.

If it turned out to be dirty or otherwise compromised, then of course that will enter into the equation.

I do doubt anyone would buy a new LE just to trade it for an original, though.

#18 8 months ago

If its truly HUO, and in mint condition I can see him getting $7K+ for the game. There's enough purists out there that would probably take that deal. What really hurts the value in my opinion is the classic version, which is priced at $6K.

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#19 8 months ago

Wow. Two years ago you couldn't find any MB listed for less than 10k. I love these remakes.

#20 8 months ago
Quoted from jonesjb:

The water is cold.

Yep - prepare for shrinkage. (resale value in this case)

#21 8 months ago

Not a chance someone would take that deal. Why would they buy the remake to just trade it for a 20 yr old version they could have bought in the first place?

#22 8 months ago
Quoted from jkashani:

With the price point of the standard edition, I dont think even 7k is obtainable. I believe that MB original will likely sit around the 6 - 6.5k mark.

I think more like $5000-$5500 for average condition. For super clean HUO I can see $7000. Condition still factors in.

#23 8 months ago
Quoted from PtownPin:

What really hurts the value in my opinion is the classic version, which is priced at $6K.

Agree 100%. Plus the classic can be upgraded to the HD dots. Originals will take a big hit.

#24 8 months ago
Quoted from Only_Pinball:

Agree 100%. Plus the classic can be upgraded to the HD dots. Originals will take a big hit.

Does the classic come with the big DMD, just not in color?

#25 8 months ago
Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

Does the classic come with the big DMD, just not in color?

No. Standard size DMD

#26 8 months ago
Quoted from NorCalRealtor:

I think more like $5000-$5500 for average condition. For super clean HUO I can see $7000. Condition still factors in.

I agree - I see a range of 4k (player condition) to 10k (HEP) for the originals now with 5k being the average price as you stated.

#27 8 months ago

Timing is everything...

#28 8 months ago

I wasn’t expecting a dealer to bite. I guess I could have worded original post differently. Like I said I’m not even sure I want to pull the trigger. I have had a fair amount of interest from this post and I get interest doesn’t equal a deal. No doubt these remakes are fantastic. Lots of folks still like the originals though.

Thanks for the input

#29 8 months ago

Nobody is gonna take that deal.

#30 8 months ago
Quoted from Turtle:Any interest in a trade for a WOZ 75th RR? And I'm local.

Thanks for the offer Turtle but I really don’t want to get into multiple transactions

#31 8 months ago

I guy locally just put up an ad on Craigslist trying to sell his so called "mint" Monster Bash with color dmd (no pics in the Ad).... he's asking $8K....If its indeed is mint (which I doubt) he might get close to $8K, but he has a color dmd..my guess is closer to $7K

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#32 8 months ago
Quoted from Damonator:

I agree - I see a range of 4k (player condition) to 10k (HEP) for the originals now with 5k being the average price as you stated.

That’s a joke.

You won’t see monster bash in any shape for $4K unless there’s a massive economic collapse across the board.

In which case we’ll all be eating each other and Pinball won’t really be a priority.

Where are you guys getting these fantasy low prices from? This did NOT happen on AFM. Average still around $6500 so I don’t see why you see rarer Monster Bash originals going for $4-5K.

Anybody want a no hassle sale on a monster bash at $5k? Give me a call deal will be done in 10 minutes.

#33 8 months ago
Quoted from PtownPin:

If its truly HUO, and in mint condition I can see him getting $7K+ for the game. There's enough purists out there that would probably take that deal. What really hurts the value in my opinion is the classic version, which is priced at $6K.

I hate to quibble but it’s really $6800 for the cheapest remake - add tax/shipping and the color which nobody is going to not get.

#34 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

In which case we’ll all be eating each other and Pinball won’t really be a priority.

Pinball cannibal apocalypse!
An everyday occurrence on Pinside, not a bad idea for a unlicensed theme!

#35 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I hate to quibble but it’s really $6800 for the cheapest remake - add tax/shipping and the color which nobody is going to not get.

MBr CE $6000
Ship $300
Color. $400

$6700 all in

#36 8 months ago
Quoted from Only_Pinball:

MBr CE $6000
Ship $300
Color. $400
$6700 all in

So $6700.

That’s a lot more than the $6000 I keep seeing.

#37 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

So $6700.
That’s a lot more than the $6000 I keep seeing.

I’m sure a distro would let you pick it up. You want a 6k MBr, I’m sure you can find one.

#38 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I hate to quibble but it’s really $6800 - add tax/shipping and the color which nobody is going to not get.

True if u have to pay tax...$300 will be the shipping costs....

#39 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

So $6700.
That’s a lot more than the $6000 I keep seeing.

yea but his doesn't have color so $6300 is the real number unless u pick it up in person

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#40 8 months ago
Quoted from DanQverymuch:

Oh, come on. Using HUO in this context implies almost perfect.

I'll let you know when I give shit what you think someone's implication is.
Pinside is full of postings with people thinking their games are completely flawless.

#41 8 months ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

I’m sure a distro would let you pick it up. You want a 6k MBr, I’m sure you can find one.

If you pick up you pay sales tax. That’s a lot, as much or more as shipping. also add $$ for color. (Nobody will not get color.)

There’s no $6k MBRs. Minimum is $6300 and you have to get color which every single buyer will do.

So $6700 like established already.

Not trying to be a pain in the ass but people need to stop throwing out $6k.

The real cost of cheapest MBR is $6700.

The real cost of cheapest AFMr is $6700.

#42 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

If you pick up you pay sales tax. That’s a lot, as much or more as shipping. also add $$ for color. (Nobody will not get color.)
There’s no $6k MBRs. Minimum is $6300 and you have to get color which every single buyer will do.
So $6700 like established already.
Not trying to be a pain in the ass but people need to stop throwing out $6k.
The real cost of cheapest MBR is $6700.
The real cost of cheapest AFMr is $6700.

I don’t think operators care about color.

If you want a 6k MBr you can get one. Haha

#43 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:That’s a joke.
You won’t see monster bash in any shape for $4K unless there’s a massive economic collapse across the board.
In which case we’ll all be eating each other and Pinball won’t really be a priority.
Where are you guys getting these fantasy low prices from? This did NOT happen on AFM. Average still around $6500 so I don’t see why you see rarer Monster Bash originals going for $4-5K.
Anybody want a no hassle sale on a monster bash at $5k? Give me a call deal will be done in 10 minutes.

Not a joke. Let’s take a typical find from an operators warehouse:

Decals wrinkled and lots of scratches/gouges on cabinet

Extensive drac track wear, scoop wear and maybe a little pop bumper wear

Sloppy mechs throughout due to wear

Flippers barely working if at all

Dmd burn in

Some board work needed

So, what you are saying is that a player who is only interested in playing the game will pay $6500 for this as opposed to a brand new MBr classic for $6300 shipped? Not a chance.

So, someone that does the board work, changes over the playfield, rebuilds the flippers and re-decals is going to have $1500 in parts and $1000 in labor. Are they going to pay $6500 and have $9000 in it (without the ColorDMD) vs paying $8300 for a MBrLE? Probably not.

That leaves us with the HEP crowd - a full $10k restore on top of the $6500 purchase price? I doubt it.

I just sold a chromed out, color dmd, modfather painted figures, silly old elf decal high end Keller restored MB for $9k - and that was *BEFORE* the MBr reveal. I honestly doubt I could get $9k now - there was just no interest.

#44 8 months ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

I don’t think operators care about color.
If you want a 6k MBr you can get one. Haha

Operators care about tax and shipping.

Minimum $6300.

I can do this all night

(Also I gotta say I’ve NEVER seen a remake on location that wasn’t color. Maybe you have. Probably a dozen is my sample size. Would the op at arcade legacy cheap out on the color?)

#45 8 months ago
Quoted from Damonator:

Not a joke. Let’s take a typical find from an operators warehouse:
Decals wrinkled and lots of scratches/gouges on cabinet
Extensive drac track wear, scoop wear and maybe a little pop bumper wear
Sloppy mechs throughout due to wear
Flippers barely working if at all
Dmd burn in
Some board work needed
So, what you are saying is that a player who is only interested in playing the game will pay $6500 for this as opposed to a brand new MBr classic for $6300 shipped? Not a chance.
So, someone that does the board work, changes over the playfield, rebuilds the flippers and re-decals is going to have $1500 in parts and $1000 in labor. Are they going to pay $6500 and have $9000 in it (without the ColorDMD) vs paying $8300 for a MBrLE? Probably not.
That leaves us with the HEP crowd - a full $10k restore on top of the $6500 purchase price? I doubt it.
I just sold a chromed out, color dmd, modfather painted figures, silly old elf decal high end Keller restored MB for $9k - and that was *BEFORE* the MBr reveal. I honestly doubt I could get $9k now - there was just no interest.

Until you can find me a $4K monster bash it’s a joke.

You are dreaming bro.

All of the mystical “beater” MBs you are fantasizing about were bought and restored a decade ago. They don’t exist. Neither do any original monster bash at below 6K.

Prove me wrong. Silly hypothetical anectodes about operator warehouse finds that don’t exist doesn’t count.

#46 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Operators care about tax and shipping.
Minimum $6300.
I can do this all night
(Also I gotta say I’ve NEVER seen a remake on location that wasn’t color. Maybe you have. Probably a dozen is my sample size. Would the op at arcade legacy cheap out on the color?)

I agree $6300 delivered is basically the bare minimum (and $8300 for the LE)...in my mind its crazy for anyone to pay more than that for 20+ year old machine unless its been completely restored. If its been restored and has color I think the market is in the $7K range (unless its a HEP)...although in my mind the remake LE seems to offer far more than anything the original can offer (mainly due to the large color HD display)....its kind of a game changer on MB

#47 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Until you can find me a $4K monster bash it’s a joke.
You are dreaming bro.
All of the mystical “beater” MBs you are fantasizing about were bought and restored a decade ago. They don’t exist.

Sure they do - just maybe not where you live.

No worries though - you have your opinion, I have mine. All good man.

#48 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Operators care about tax and shipping.

I agree. That’s why they don’t pay it if they can avoid it. Haha

#49 8 months ago

Nobody likes paying taxes or shipping costs....

#50 8 months ago
Quoted from PtownPin:I agree $6300 delivered is basically the bare minimum (and $8300 for the LE)...in my mind its crazy for anyone to pay more than that for 20+ year old machine unless its been completely restored

Not quite sure why an original owner HUO with 5k plays would need to be restored so I’ll keep talking.

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