Quoted from homegameroom:

Has anyone looked for "Lyman's Lament" on the MBr? To refresh your memory (from the IPDB): Before launching the first ball, and with credits on the machine (or free play), press the left flipper 11 times, then press the right flipper once, the left flipper 5 times, the right flipper once, the left flipper 6 times, and finally the right flipper once. The game will say "Totally" then launch the ball. Hitting the scoop with this ball will start Lyman's Lament, playing different music along with the voice of programmer Lyman Sheats commenting while that ball is played.

Quoted from Vino:

I’d like to see a CE as well and if it has the same protectors installed.

Quoted from Kwaheltrut:

Can anyone post picks of under the PF? Does it have the same light board as MMR?
Thanks

Quoted from hollywood:

Where do you get the mylar? Is there different thicknesses? Please let me know!! Thanks man.

Quoted from Concretehardt:

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Quoted from bigdaddy07:

I was assuming he owned a shoe store, but yah I guess that could be a collection.

I'm sure they aren't payless shoes, so that means your lady has no room to ever complain about your pinball hobby. Lets say they are on the conservative side and ~$50 per pair, that's at least 10k in shoes with little tangible value. Especially since the resale on used shoes is probably near zero?

Quoted from Bronty:

LOL we just moved so there is shit everywhere. Trust me that's only a small fraction. She has a problem.

Quoted from ChiroCop:

I have an LE on order, but never played this Pin. Is Creature from the Black Lagoon an actual toy...or a hologram inside the playfield? Looks to me like an actual toy...but if so...how did they get it inside the playfield? Dumb question...but I'm just curious.

Quoted from ChiroCop:

Pretty nice topper "option" for non-LE buyers. Looks to be around $299.00 online.
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Quoted from stretch2:

Looks like Pinballs.com is still advertising MBr Le's for sale...

Quoted from vj82:

Are they same price everywhere?

Quoted from KnockerPTSD:

Player one Toronto has a CE set up. I put in about 30 min today.
Smooth play, beautiful machine, Frank is way less of a drain monster than I remember him being, everything about this game is great (even without the new upgrades),.......however, playing for 30min only confirmed my feelings that while this is one of my favorite games for its nostalgia and genuinely fun gameplay and theme, it also (for me) is better as a pin played only occasionally to be appreciated properly. I can see having this in my home making me start to find what iscurrently a fun game that I can usually do quite well on and be entertained into I game I find boring and repetitive. I dont want to wreck this game for myself so I'm taking a pass but hoping some locals get some
If you have the means and room to pack your house with pins, this is a great choice. If you are only going to have 4 or 5 pins? Maybe not.
Still looking forward to playing a SE or LE and love CGC remakes. This is the prettiest of them so far but has the least to do long term.

Quoted from Budman:

Is this a title I sell my AFMrLE to acquire?

Quoted from Bronty:

Anybody know why there is no ball save on the remake? The manual says its .02 in the adjustments menu, but the menu skips from .01 to .03... its just not there.
Did previous remakes ship that way?

Quoted from vwallat99:

I don't know why MB gets all this hate on it for being an easy game. I love AFM and its one of my favorites but goodness I think that game is much easier for me at least then MB. It's very rinse and repeat compared to MB. Like it is this is all personal preferences and personal skills but just think the negatives for Monster Bash need to stop. There is a reason why the game exploded with sales. We all frickin' love this game!

Quoted from Higloss67:

Just put in a ticket with CGC for the backglass being difficult to remove.
I have not played this game a lot before buying this one, so I have a question. Does the backbox have very much ineraction with the gameplay? Once in a great while I will see it flash, but it seems rare. It is set to “stock”.

Quoted from Soltic:

After a weekend of play here’s a Honeymoon Report.
Prior to play:
- Pf and balls waxed.
- Static mylar in shooter lane until I get some real protection, thought previously would need in pops but mylar there already as well as drops and drac-track. Nice.
Minor issues corrected:
- GI clear cap fell off, ca’d back on.
- lock nut under red star post on frankie ramp fell off - all lock nuts in that assembly w the flasher were not tightened.
- Bride’s head kept sticking up - solenoid shaft was binding in body as well as at half-moon shaped bracket (if the shaft was twisted to either side a bit). Re-aligned and shimmed body, small amount of graphite at half moon bracket.
- Most important correction - could not level pf side-to-side properly at both bottom and top - obvious twist. Lock down assembly (which hangers rest on) was crooked. Easiest way to check this is to open coin door and feel alignment of assembly bottom in relation to coin door top. Mine was high left side 3/16”. Screws removed, bolts loosened, assembly realigned & everything tightened back up. Most people check side-to-side level at only one spot on pf. While shot aim and return trajectories is something a player can get used to between machines, some games need perfect level / no twisting - for FG / Shrek perfect level (and flipper alignment) is necessary so that the orbits can be hit by simply energizing flipper when ball is at rest against up-post and flipper. PL designed it that way.
Tweaks:
- Lighting. After redoing my TronLE again to allow ramps not to be overpowered by LED’s I defitnitely notice variations and personally find LED’s usually too intense. MBRSE out of the box is way overpowering for me in areas - adjusted light levels down and went custom GI color to go a little more yellow - but Creeches LED’s were still overpowering (IMO because they are aimed right at u) so stuck some green bulb condoms on and got what I think is perfect balance there - going after Frankie drop bank next as I find these searing as well - will probably diffuse those on the light board w simply some semi opaque tape.
- Frankie spot realigned to my pref.
- Played w subwoof setting.
- @ end of weekend pf cleaned and waxed again, rubbers cleaned, factory balls were chopped pretty good by breaking in metal edges and such on pf and scoop and therefore dumped and replaced w silver jets - which will be monitored.
Final thoughts after the weekend:
- So so nice to have a NIB MBR, really, I would have been fine if they only released the CE but the SE’s GI color integration (along w speaker lights) is fantastic, the redraw on the dots incredible.
- cc on pf is amazing.
- Biggest concern is longevity of scoop protector. I believe the reports from expo were that they seemed to be weak and after only a weekend of play I would agree. Ours is noticeably dented right in middle at front and near back on side and is starting to deform. It looks like a combo mantis and cliffy fused together but I don’t know if it’s the right gauge of materials. Always used Cliffy’s w no problems. I thought cgc said they were correcting it after it was noticed and reported at expo...?
Overall minor “4:20” production issues - which are easily overlooked by a NIB experience of a classic updated w/ the SE’s revisions, will start research into the scoop protector and if there may be a revision.

Quoted from jbug:

Looks like you are saying no problem with the newer factory protector and someone else is saying the newer factory replaced protector is no good. I guess we'll have to wait for more reviews.

Quoted from delt31:

As an owner of AFM LE, that game desperately needed pinstadium. I can see this being different due to additional GI. We'll see.

Quoted from Lermods:

Not sure what kind of camera or settings you are using, but here's my CE with just a blue trough light taken with a pixel xl2, no flash, pitch black room. It's not dark at all.
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Quoted from tktlwyr:

Here’s my SE in the dark, set to max brightness with warm white on G.I.
Not as bright as you guys are thinking and why I ordered Pinstadium lighting for the game.
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Quoted from delt31:

I like playing in the dark too especially at night. I don't like all the other light to be on.

Quoted from knockerlover:

In my original MB when I had it, I added a hex post to each sling with a spotlight on the top tapped into the sling GI. It was perfect in my opinion.

Quoted from mollyspub:

Just wish they went all the way down to the bottom of the apron

Quoted from Leo13:

Excellent, but could you confirm the official Cliffy protector (hyperthin) is not getting dented as fast as the one present on the machine ?
I wonder if I need to get the thick one without mantis or the hyperthin with mantis.
I'm also wondering if the hyperthin is not the same as the one already installed

Quoted from Lermods:

Why is the scoop protector getting beat up on mbR but not AFMr? Same scoop, same shot. I have a cliffy on my AFMr scoop, no wear.

Quoted from delt31:

So for a guy getting his in January what do you suggest to buy now for protection?

Quoted from Higloss67:

Pinball life had Cliffy’s. Got one last week

Quoted from Pinballocd:

So what is the best for our brand new games. Hyperthin or black line?

Quoted from f3honda4me:

Seeing how successful this remake is, what would an original HUO MB be worth now in great condition?

Quoted from bohunr:

My first NIB pins I purchased I got a deal on from the dist I used(and I picked it up so I didn't have any shipping) I saw this on a link someone posted and wonder if any of you out there have gotten prices like shown? MBLE and Munsters LE went so fast they both went for MSRP
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Quoted from PokerJake:

Is there going to be additional code down the road with the remake? My wife wants one but I find the current code kinda bland and not sure of the lasting power. I thought I heard a rumor a while back.

Quoted from Nytewatch33:

So I'm having second thoughts again. First of all, I have an LE on order (non matched). I'm getting very tired of waiting as I have room for only 1 pin in my house and this delay has meant I have nothing for months. Prior to this I had a WOZ (which was definitely fun, but I was never all that crazy about the theme). I have always loved the call outs and campiness of MB, but the other day I went and played one on site, but at the same time I played a Hobbit and a Pirates of the Caribbean, and I have to say while the MBr is gorgeous in it's own way and if I had several pins I wouldn't have many doubts - I'm starting to wonder if it will get old quickly being my only pin.
If you were me (and particularly for those that own either The hobbit or Pirates) would you choose one of those pins instead as your only pin? There are so many modes on both that could keep me occupied for a long time. But I also know my wife loves to bash the ball around without really paying attention to the rules. Still, this is 90% for me, and she will only play occasionally. Thoughts?

Quoted from seenev:

I'm also waiting for an LE with no other pins to play in the meantime. Had I known delays would be this bad I would definitely have taken a different game off the shelf. I also considered pirates but it seemed like it had a similar wait period, and it's also more expensive. I don't think MBrLE will be disappointing but opportunity costs are a factor when you don't have any other games. Think about the fact that by end of January the will only have produced about 20% off the LEs. This could be a very long wait for some of us if we're near the back of the line. I think this is probably the last time I put down a non refundable deposit.

Quoted from PtownPin:

I really don't understand the comments about code, deep games, etc....some of the games are so ridiculous with code that their really not that fun to play....what makes MM, MB, AFM, Met so great (and highly rated) is that the games are very challenging, yet the code is easy to explain and understand for kids, adults, experts, and novice players.....

Quoted from ShinyBall:

Yep...I get sick and tired of the "deep" crowd...It's a fun game..period.

Quoted from ShinyBall:

yes, but family/friends/kids all would like this...doesn't have to be a deep game

Quoted from f3honda4me:

I have hobbit and POTC, and am getting MB and AFM next. My wife is a basher too. She likes AFM and MB the most. But she does not like hobbit at all. POTC she likes BUT it can be punishing for a basher. But she still likes it.
If MB gets stale for you, and your wife is a basher, I’d go with POTC as a single pin.

Quoted from Concretehardt:

Two games with this issue so far out of roughly 300 shipped, my LE looks perfect.

Quoted from cheshirefilms:

Default no ball save. Open outlanes. Good luck reaching Monsters of Rock with any regularity then. Lightning flippers would make game ridiculous hard at that point.

Quoted from EricHadley:

The originals were silk screens, not decals. Right?

Quoted from AstonEnthusiast:

Unboxed our LE this afternoon. Several cosmetic issues out of the box: Cracked decals on two corners, blue powder coating blemishes, broken plastic part fell out of the game and a few other items (repaired wood w/ black paint or ink on the topper). Submitted a ticket and waiting for an update.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Quoted from rai:

My dealer told me $1000 difference
$8599
$7599 delivered
Time to find a new dealer?

Quoted from TheLaw:

Just played an LE and the game itself was very impressive...got me wondering aboot it & my lineup.
Sadly I read the Standard doesn't come with a big DMD, because the upgraded art is just sick; looks so damn good.
Everything else aboot the LE didn't do it for me but that shouldn't be a big surprise I guess.
Think I'll dig deeper in this thread a snoop around.

Quoted from delt31:

Not the jumbo style HD graphics though. Stays the same classic size DMD just with color....

Quoted from Vino:

Just to clarify, do the dots on smaller color screen on the CE have the same enhanced quality to it as the larger screen SE/LE?

Quoted from delt31:

Absolutely not. LE is limited and although it seems like a lot this game will undoubtedly become collector's and hold it's value. Just look at AFM le vs SE - le still holding value and that will continue.
If you don't want the le I would still buy it and sell that topper. I can almost guarantee you that topper would sell 600+ if not 1k. Cash that in and you basically get everything else for free on top of the SE. No brainer

Quoted from Dexter:

What pitch do you have your MB set at? I'm at 13 degrees and wondering what everyone else is playing at? Thanks.

Quoted from sgorsuch:

One small issue, but I suspect it is maybe an eddy sensor that needs calibrating.Not every hit to Drac is registering.
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Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

It is actually supported by software in the original games, so you could hook up a physical knocker; I imagine it would work in the remakes too

Quoted from Kneissl:

Any idea if the coil test let you fire it? The version in mbr skips over the knocker coil.

Quoted from NPO:

Popeye

Quoted from sirlonzelot:

What is that white line ?
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Quoted from Bublehead:

Well, I never let a single copy of a machine set my overall opinion of a specific pin title. That you judged MB on a single session on a single machine that was not set up correctly or tweaked to play like it should is not a fair representation of the fun MB has to offer, imo. But I have played probably 10+ or more different copies over the years, including all three trim levels on CGC’s MBr, and the scoop and Dracs feet have frustrated me in the past even on OG MB’s, so I know how you feel
Occasional SDTM off Dracs feet or from the scoop is part of playing MB... a double left orbit shot will naturally send it SDTM off Dracs feet if you don’t nudge it as it comes around fast. MB, once it settles in and settles down is pretty rock solid in a HUO collection, that’s a big reason I bought one. It can be a very challenging but quick machine to play, or one that makes you chop wood all night on the Bride ramps until you get the effin’ microphone, my biggest nemesis and usual roadblock to get to MOR.

Quoted from robotron:

location pinball doesnt care about sdtm.
for the most part i dislike location pinball. i like to setup my pins for the way i play. not for cheap drains and sdtm.

Quoted from Ozzy:

Quick question, would you...trade a very nice congo and a very nice fishtails for a mble with under a 100 games on?. Trade is with a friend so not worried about any "unforeseen " issues. Simple trade between good friends.

Quoted from Ricochet:

I'm out of the club... sold my SE today. It was fun while it lasted. For whatever reason... it lost its steam for me.

Quoted from Rdoyle1978:

did you get a response on this? I thought that spotlight was GI

Quoted from Kneissl:

As far as I can tell there's a software hurdle to adding a knocker. Please complain to cgc and hopefully they enable it in a future update.

Quoted from TheBigDog:

A lot less then that.
I can ask him about doing others if you’re really interested. I know he enjoys this stuff.

Quoted from MERGatroid:

Hello everyone. Looking for some thoughts about weather to get a munsterspro or monster bash so. Seeing people selling Munster pro and le in 1 week. I have a aerosmith pro I love and looking to add to my collection. I love old horror movies. I was a little kid when munsters came out. So both are great themes to me.

Quoted from ThePinballCo-op:

If you're antsy, I'm pretty sure you can call the distributor and go pick it up.
Depends how ambitious you wanna be.

Quoted from Rolls-Royce:

By the way fellas, I just saw that "Monster Bash" it is #1 in our top 100... congratulations!
I canceled my Munsters LE, probably will cancel now a Munsters Premium to get a MB Instead, this game looks extremely nice.