Mb sld have a mantis and cliffy style protector used at the same time as the scoop takes a beating. Just a cliffy gets bent quickly but with mantis and cliffy its very solid
Mb sld have a mantis and cliffy style protector used at the same time as the scoop takes a beating. Just a cliffy gets bent quickly but with mantis and cliffy its very solid
Quoted from homegameroom:
Has anyone looked for "Lyman's Lament" on the MBr? To refresh your memory (from the IPDB): Before launching the first ball, and with credits on the machine (or free play), press the left flipper 11 times, then press the right flipper once, the left flipper 5 times, the right flipper once, the left flipper 6 times, and finally the right flipper once. The game will say "Totally" then launch the ball. Hitting the scoop with this ball will start Lyman's Lament, playing different music along with the voice of programmer Lyman Sheats commenting while that ball is played.
Or it starts when u hit the scoop 42 times lol
I have a set of sillyolelf side blades that i can sell if anyone is interested. They are very nice and really fit the game nicely.
I use to buy every cliffy for every pin i bought. I love his products but started using just mylar in the shooter lane , drain area and its worked perfectly fine with no wear. Now on older pins with damage allready i still use cliffys but new pins with no wear mylar works great.
Quoted from hollywood:
Where do you get the mylar? Is there different thicknesses? Please let me know!! Thanks man.
Most pinball places carry it .... heres one link
Quoted from bigdaddy07:
I was assuming he owned a shoe store, but yah I guess that could be a collection.
I'm sure they aren't payless shoes, so that means your lady has no room to ever complain about your pinball hobby. Lets say they are on the conservative side and ~$50 per pair, that's at least 10k in shoes with little tangible value. Especially since the resale on used shoes is probably near zero?
You are correct and why i can overfilll the house with machines lol.....
Just a plastic figure under playfield window with flashers behind it.....
1250 is alot of pins to sell these days and while cgc may have sold them all... many distributors will have them available for a while from what i have been told. Alot have been ordered but they will b available at least for the next 3-4 months and probably much longer. With so many new pins out and many more still coming out the market is loaded with choices and lots of people have owned many of the remakes. I dont think there will b any shortage of well priced huo mble eaither. What a great time to b a pinball enthusiast ... hope it lasts but people are running out of room and money so something has to give at some point.
Quoted from Graysonsdad:
Player one Toronto has a CE set up. I put in about 30 min today.
Smooth play, beautiful machine, Frank is way less of a drain monster than I remember him being, everything about this game is great (even without the new upgrades),.......however, playing for 30min only confirmed my feelings that while this is one of my favorite games for its nostalgia and genuinely fun gameplay and theme, it also (for me) is better as a pin played only occasionally to be appreciated properly. I can see having this in my home making me start to find what iscurrently a fun game that I can usually do quite well on and be entertained into I game I find boring and repetitive. I dont want to wreck this game for myself so I'm taking a pass but hoping some locals get some
If you have the means and room to pack your house with pins, this is a great choice. If you are only going to have 4 or 5 pins? Maybe not.
Still looking forward to playing a SE or LE and love CGC remakes. This is the prettiest of them so far but has the least to do long term.
Thats what happened in our small collection of 7-10 pins.....
Quoted from Bronty:
Anybody know why there is no ball save on the remake? The manual says its .02 in the adjustments menu, but the menu skips from .01 to .03... its just not there.
Did previous remakes ship that way?
Huh .. the original came factory with no ball save but had a adjustment i believe.
Quoted from vwallat99:
I don't know why MB gets all this hate on it for being an easy game. I love AFM and its one of my favorites but goodness I think that game is much easier for me at least then MB. It's very rinse and repeat compared to MB. Like it is this is all personal preferences and personal skills but just think the negatives for Monster Bash need to stop. There is a reason why the game exploded with sales. We all frickin' love this game!
Its not hate at all ... its just simpler and eaiser than other pins of the time which isn't a bad thing . I had mm, afm and mb at the same time. Mm and afm on factory settings and mb with open outlanes, no eb or ball save and all were set at 7.2 slope. Even like that mb was much eaiser than the others andi still never beat mm or afm . Mm and mb are now gone but afm has been around for years. I cld see myself getting a remake of mb at some point bc its fun to play for a while and has great theme .
Quoted from Plunger069:
Just put in a ticket with CGC for the backglass being difficult to remove.
I have not played this game a lot before buying this one, so I have a question. Does the backbox have very much ineraction with the gameplay? Once in a great while I will see it flash, but it seems rare. It is set to “stock”.
Sld be 5 or 6 flashers in the backbox.... my original had the backbox gi go out when playfield gi went out and was a great light show especially frank mb, extra ball, mosh pit mb and many other instances.
Quoted from Soltic:
After a weekend of play here’s a Honeymoon Report.
Prior to play:
- Pf and balls waxed.
- Static mylar in shooter lane until I get some real protection, thought previously would need in pops but mylar there already as well as drops and drac-track. Nice.
Minor issues corrected:
- GI clear cap fell off, ca’d back on.
- lock nut under red star post on frankie ramp fell off - all lock nuts in that assembly w the flasher were not tightened.
- Bride’s head kept sticking up - solenoid shaft was binding in body as well as at half-moon shaped bracket (if the shaft was twisted to either side a bit). Re-aligned and shimmed body, small amount of graphite at half moon bracket.
- Most important correction - could not level pf side-to-side properly at both bottom and top - obvious twist. Lock down assembly (which hangers rest on) was crooked. Easiest way to check this is to open coin door and feel alignment of assembly bottom in relation to coin door top. Mine was high left side 3/16”. Screws removed, bolts loosened, assembly realigned & everything tightened back up. Most people check side-to-side level at only one spot on pf. While shot aim and return trajectories is something a player can get used to between machines, some games need perfect level / no twisting - for FG / Shrek perfect level (and flipper alignment) is necessary so that the orbits can be hit by simply energizing flipper when ball is at rest against up-post and flipper. PL designed it that way.
- Lighting. After redoing my TronLE again to allow ramps not to be overpowered by LED’s I defitnitely notice variations and personally find LED’s usually too intense. MBRSE out of the box is way overpowering for me in areas - adjusted light levels down and went custom GI color to go a little more yellow - but Creeches LED’s were still overpowering (IMO because they are aimed right at u) so stuck some green bulb condoms on and got what I think is perfect balance there - going after Frankie drop bank next as I find these searing as well - will probably diffuse those on the light board w simply some semi opaque tape.
- Frankie spot realigned to my pref.
- Played w subwoof setting.
- @ end of weekend pf cleaned and waxed again, rubbers cleaned, factory balls were chopped pretty good by breaking in metal edges and such on pf and scoop and therefore dumped and replaced w silver jets - which will be monitored.
Final thoughts after the weekend:
- So so nice to have a NIB MBR, really, I would have been fine if they only released the CE but the SE’s GI color integration (along w speaker lights) is fantastic, the redraw on the dots incredible.
- cc on pf is amazing.
- Biggest concern is longevity of scoop protector. I believe the reports from expo were that they seemed to be weak and after only a weekend of play I would agree. Ours is noticeably dented right in middle at front and near back on side and is starting to deform. It looks like a combo mantis and cliffy fused together but I don’t know if it’s the right gauge of materials. Always used Cliffy’s w no problems. I thought cgc said they were correcting it after it was noticed and reported at expo...?
Overall minor “4:20” production issues - which are easily overlooked by a NIB experience of a classic updated w/ the SE’s revisions, will start research into the scoop protector and if there may be a revision.
You have the corrected scoop protector. I had to use a cliffy and mantis on my original bc the cliffy by itself got very damaged but both worked very well.
Trust me a cliffy isnt enough... i tried just cliffy on my original and it dented and started to deform quickly. Now a mantis and cliffy combo worked excellent and never had a issue..... tight fit but it worked well.
Quoted from jbug:
Looks like you are saying no problem with the newer factory protector and someone else is saying the newer factory replaced protector is no good. I guess we'll have to wait for more reviews.
Dont know anything about the factory protector but apparently its not holding up. Just saying that a real cliffy and real mantis protector together work great from my experience.
Mb is a dark pin and i dont believe there are extra lights on the le ...just rgb gi which will actually make it darker depending on the gi color at any given time.
Quoted from Lermods:
Not sure what kind of camera or settings you are using, but here's my CE with just a blue trough light taken with a pixel xl2, no flash, pitch black room. It's not dark at all.
Thats still pretty dark imo... and the se/le use different lighting compared to the mbr classic. I had a restored original with the brightest leds and overall still very dark especially near the flippers and slings. A few well placed spot lights fix the issue tho.
Quoted from tktlwyr:
Here’s my SE in the dark, set to max brightness with warm white on G.I.
Not as bright as you guys are thinking and why I ordered Pinstadium lighting for the game.
Issue with mb lighting is there are not many gi bulbs in the sling/ inlane area bc of the phantom flip optos.
Yep ...thats all it really needs on mb.... its missing alot of gi down by the inlanes and slings bc of the phantom flip optos....
I have a set of the sillyoldelf sideblades i wont b using bc i sold my mb..... if anyone is interested message me and we can work out a deal..... thanks
Quoted from Leo13:
Excellent, but could you confirm the official Cliffy protector (hyperthin) is not getting dented as fast as the one present on the machine ?
I wonder if I need to get the thick one without mantis or the hyperthin with mantis.
I'm also wondering if the hyperthin is not the same as the one already installed
Regular cliffy by itself also gets damaged quickly.... need mantis with cliffy and no damage occurs
Quoted from bohunr:
My first NIB pins I purchased I got a deal on from the dist I used(and I picked it up so I didn't have any shipping) I saw this on a link someone posted and wonder if any of you out there have gotten prices like shown? MBLE and Munsters LE went so fast they both went for MSRP
Prices are much cheaper than the msrp... especially the pro..
Pdi or invisaglass is a must on all pins imo.... that and a powered subwoofer are must haves.
Monster bash is a darker pin due to not many gi locations ...especially down by the flipper area due to the phantom flip optos.
Quoted from PokerJake:
Is there going to be additional code down the road with the remake? My wife wants one but I find the current code kinda bland and not sure of the lasting power. I thought I heard a rumor a while back.
No... its simple code but game is fun . If anything buy a used one when it pops up and play for 3-6 month's then sell for minimum loss... that's what i did.
Quoted from Nytewatch33:
So I'm having second thoughts again. First of all, I have an LE on order (non matched). I'm getting very tired of waiting as I have room for only 1 pin in my house and this delay has meant I have nothing for months. Prior to this I had a WOZ (which was definitely fun, but I was never all that crazy about the theme). I have always loved the call outs and campiness of MB, but the other day I went and played one on site, but at the same time I played a Hobbit and a Pirates of the Caribbean, and I have to say while the MBr is gorgeous in it's own way and if I had several pins I wouldn't have many doubts - I'm starting to wonder if it will get old quickly being my only pin.
If you were me (and particularly for those that own either The hobbit or Pirates) would you choose one of those pins instead as your only pin? There are so many modes on both that could keep me occupied for a long time. But I also know my wife loves to bash the ball around without really paying attention to the rules. Still, this is 90% for me, and she will only play occasionally. Thoughts?
As your only pin mb will get old very quickly imo just like many wpc titles wld in a home environment. This is where some of the deeper stern pins and all the jjp pins are nice. Jjp pins are really good as 1-2 pin collections bc they have loads to do and code forever.
Quoted from seenev:
I'm also waiting for an LE with no other pins to play in the meantime. Had I known delays would be this bad I would definitely have taken a different game off the shelf. I also considered pirates but it seemed like it had a similar wait period, and it's also more expensive. I don't think MBrLE will be disappointing but opportunity costs are a factor when you don't have any other games. Think about the fact that by end of January the will only have produced about 20% off the LEs. This could be a very long wait for some of us if we're near the back of the line. I think this is probably the last time I put down a non refundable deposit.
Sucks about the non refundable deposit... i wld of ordered from a place that had refundable deposit like pps. Jjp potc or hobbit wld be a great choice if u decide to switch.
Quoted from PtownPin:
I really don't understand the comments about code, deep games, etc....some of the games are so ridiculous with code that their really not that fun to play....what makes MM, MB, AFM, Met so great (and highly rated) is that the games are very challenging, yet the code is easy to explain and understand for kids, adults, experts, and novice players.....
They are all great pins but i wld not want any of those as a 1 pin collection... i don't have a big collection but it works well bc i have games like afm , met, bsd for years bc i also have more challenging pins like di, hobbit, woz . They all work great together and it keeps things fresh over long periods of time. Back when i only had 2-3 wpc pins things got stale within a month or so. Everyone is different but wpc pins were made/developed for arcade and casual use and not 20 + games a day . Just my experience but others may vary. Looks like we have similar collections and thats y it works.
Quoted from ShinyBall:
yes, but family/friends/kids all would like this...doesn't have to be a deep game
That's fine but not what op is asking . I have nothing against any pin especially wpc pins (my favorite) but some / most wld not be good in a 1 pin collection unless someone just wants to enjoy it for few month's then sell it and get another one but many people that spend 8k+ wld like to keep it much longer .
Quoted from f3honda4me:
I have hobbit and POTC, and am getting MB and AFM next. My wife is a basher too. She likes AFM and MB the most. But she does not like hobbit at all. POTC she likes BUT it can be punishing for a basher. But she still likes it.
If MB gets stale for you, and your wife is a basher, I’d go with POTC as a single pin.
I think potc wld b great on its own. For both his wife and him.
Wow looks like cgc cabs are doing what sterns were doing and people hammered stern for this .
Stern is the only company that can show a pin and ship it within a few weeks(pros) or a month or so for the le. Most of us know this but still preorder anyhow lol
Quoted from cheshirefilms:
Default no ball save. Open outlanes. Good luck reaching Monsters of Rock with any regularity then. Lightning flippers would make game ridiculous hard at that point.
I did all that plus had it set up 7.0 and limited eb. Game was fast and cld be brutal but still on the easy side but still fun to play.
Quoted from AliciaC:
Unboxed our LE this afternoon. Several cosmetic issues out of the box: Cracked decals on two corners, blue powder coating blemishes, broken plastic part fell out of the game and a few other items (repaired wood w/ black paint or ink on the topper). Submitted a ticket and waiting for an update.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
Quoted from TheLaw:
Just played an LE and the game itself was very impressive...got me wondering aboot it & my lineup.
Sadly I read the Standard doesn't come with a big DMD, because the upgraded art is just sick; looks so damn good.
Everything else aboot the LE didn't do it for me but that shouldn't be a big surprise I guess.
Think I'll dig deeper in this thread a snoop around.
Ce displays can also be upgraded to the better color graphics
Quoted from delt31:
Absolutely not. LE is limited and although it seems like a lot this game will undoubtedly become collector's and hold it's value. Just look at AFM le vs SE - le still holding value and that will continue.
If you don't want the le I would still buy it and sell that topper. I can almost guarantee you that topper would sell 600+ if not 1k. Cash that in and you basically get everything else for free on top of the SE. No brainer
Afmr le sells for 1k cheaper than it was new and there are 250 more mbrle. afmle has much better topper and is a better game in most people's opinion.. That is not really that limited in this hobby . I think mb will be be around 7-7250 also when all said and done. Heck even mmrle are mid to low 7s.... so that seems to be the sweet spot for cgc le used pins. So many new expensive pins coming out over the next few years everything is gonna fall in price on the used market...
The ce will definitely be the least produced mbr and the se will probably also have lower production than the le . So they will be the limited edition .. just like jjp pins lol. Not that anyone cares or it effects anything tho. I think the se mbr is the best option and i like the look the best personally.
Quoted from Bublehead:
Well, I never let a single copy of a machine set my overall opinion of a specific pin title. That you judged MB on a single session on a single machine that was not set up correctly or tweaked to play like it should is not a fair representation of the fun MB has to offer, imo. But I have played probably 10+ or more different copies over the years, including all three trim levels on CGC’s MBr, and the scoop and Dracs feet have frustrated me in the past even on OG MB’s, so I know how you feel
Occasional SDTM off Dracs feet or from the scoop is part of playing MB... a double left orbit shot will naturally send it SDTM off Dracs feet if you don’t nudge it as it comes around fast. MB, once it settles in and settles down is pretty rock solid in a HUO collection, that’s a big reason I bought one. It can be a very challenging but quick machine to play, or one that makes you chop wood all night on the Bride ramps until you get the effin’ microphone, my biggest nemesis and usual roadblock to get to MOR.
My nemesis was always creech....
Quoted from robotron:
location pinball doesnt care about sdtm.
for the most part i dislike location pinball. i like to setup my pins for the way i play. not for cheap drains and sdtm.
Totally agree .. our local arcade has to have the worst set up pins ever... not leveled and totally flat leg levelers. So annoying . Also seems every scoop switch is broken..and they are all new pins .
Quoted from Ozzy:
Quick question, would you...trade a very nice congo and a very nice fishtails for a mble with under a 100 games on?. Trade is with a friend so not worried about any "unforeseen " issues. Simple trade between good friends.
Had all 3 and no i would not do that trade unless its just temporary.
Phantom Flip works with the wireform in-lane switch detecting the start of the phantom flip sequence, and optical sensor (opto) hidden under the slingshot, and the eddy sensor (basically a resistor) completing the shot based on the MPU calculations.
The opto and eddy sensor are the keys to the mechanical element of Phantom Flip
Particle board/ mdf has been used in pins for a long time? What's the issue? The 90s/2000s pins held up just fine in most cases?
Mb originally had no knocker. Also the 2 brass screws on the lockbar receiver are for adjustment.
Quoted from MERGatroid:
Hello everyone. Looking for some thoughts about weather to get a munsterspro or monster bash so. Seeing people selling Munster pro and le in 1 week. I have a aerosmith pro I love and looking to add to my collection. I love old horror movies. I was a little kid when munsters came out. So both are great themes to me.
Asking that question in here you will get mb... ask that question in munsters thread u will get Munsters ... lol
Lol who cares about the top 100 its so manipulated..... also i enjoy munsters more much more than mb . Both are very similar but there's more to munsters for me but everyone sld own monster bash at least once .
The metal studs are like this to hold the weight of the mech... regular wood screws wld strip and rip out eventually.
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