The guy who's telling everyone to calm down and wait it out - well he's getting his Monday. Nice.

Our fingers will be crossed for you. Everyone else - shut it.

So Games Exchange Colorado has a bunch of customers waiting for their LEs, but someone backed out and instead of giving it to the next person in line they try to sell it for $1000 more?

Yeah is that really correct?

Seeing how successful this remake is, what would an original HUO MB be worth now in great condition?

Yes it's correct. I don't know if they have non number matched people waiting in line, but I would guess they do. And yes, they appear to be holding it and charging $1k premium. I actually hadn't thought about it at the time. That's kind of bullshit. I would definitely be pissed if I was a non number matched customer waiting patiently at game exchange.

Got the email as well... Non-number matching LE shipping next week. Paid in full early December. A little nervous about the recent examples here citing freight damage. I've had a dozen or so NIB's delivered with zero issues, but isn't this why you pay with a CC? I always pay with my Amex just in case to ensure I'm covered if the game arrives in pieces or the box is filled with bricks, etc.

Completely stock or with color dmd and other stuff? I know a few that sold recently for 7-8k in nice/great condition with some mods. Still lots people that like originals.

absolutely, 1000% this... I have done this with every one of my machines purchased from Joe. And the terminal manager has no issue with you checking the box, as well as opening it up and checking the contents before signing.

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I don't think any of them are better than each other, although it might be because we are in the UK but honestly its a nightmare, we place orders with a £2K deposit then its a roulette wheel as to when we get get asked for the rest then for it to sit in a shipping container for 3-4 weeks. This applies to Stern, CGC, JJP and Spooky. Where as I can order a car for less than a pinball machine and get a week level precise shipping date and pay a £500 deposit. Don't even get me started about the local delivery company and deal with them!

Again, inspect/open the top at least before signing. I can tell the difference between a pinball machine and a box of bricks. Beyond that, keep a couple 20s in your pocket for the driver to buy time if needed. Dish out one at a time as needed.

As has been stated before, these home delivery drivers make peanuts and an extra $20 or two could buy you the time you need to set it up and fully inspect. That's what I'm going to be prepared for. Gotta think in their shoes- they got mouths to feed, too.

Oh, they for sure have at least one non number matched person with a down payment.

I'm not "pissed", but that does seem to not be in good faith. I mean, if they bump someone up in line then they are still going to get all their machines that they ordered so they'll have an extra one regardless that they can charge whatever they want for it. Probably best if I try to not think about this.

Are they now shipping non matching LE's before their done with the matching ones?

I thought they were supposed to be done with matching numbers this week.

my matching # LE shipped yesterday.

I would be angry if I had ordered from Games Exchange. I don't understand why everyone recommends them. I ordered from them once. Very responsive when I wanted to order, but when I wanted to cancel after several delays I couldn't get a hold of them for some time.

I have never had an issue with them. I bought 3 games from JJ last year and had no trouble getting hold of him at any point during the process. In my small community we probably accounted for 10 to 12 NIB games over the past two years from Game Exchange.

Received an email from Gameroom Guys yesterday and they should be getting the CE display upgrade early next week. I noticed they show the product "In Stock" with a lead time of one day so I ordered.

https://www.gameroomguys.com/Monster-Bash-HD-Color-Display-Upgrade?undefined=61514

Hoping we get our upgrade late next week or early the week after.

I ordered mine through Planetary Pinball. I didn't want to relive the two year wait when I ordered my MMR through another distro. That was my first NIB but it was also a game I thought I could never own so I paid in full early on. Having over $7k tied up for over a year (due to delays) was not fun.

I wasn't originally planning to buy an MBR because I didn't have room nor $ but had a Christmas miracle which put me in the position to get one. I didn't care about number matching so I ordered a "normal" LE and hoped that would speed up my delivery. I'm hearing that number matched games continue to be built through February. Even if I get mine in March it would be an improvement over my MMR schedule

I know MMR was built in Stern's factory so much of the scheduling was out of CGC's control. I didn't follow AFMR scheduling because I wasn't interested in that game but was hopeful that in house assembly at CGC would be faster and more predictable. Sounds like they're still figuring that out.

Anywho, I'm not happy that I won't see the game this month but I am happy that it looks to be only a one to two month delay with only the deposit in play. Compared to 2 years, I can live with that.

I tried with no success to update the new code. The folder says "MonsterBash102" only. No installer.img. I download a zip opener that did NOTHING. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Please PM me your email address and I'll send you instructions Scott Tiesma made up. Might help you better.

LTG : )

PM sent. Thanks Lloyd.

Mac or Windows? Which Zip opener? More details will help us help you.

Lloyd just sent better instructions that I will try later. Thanks. Was for Windows. free zip app from App Store.

I'm having the same problem. No file to unzip, it's not a .img file. Following Windows OS instructions.

A follow up on the Mosh Pit protector issue, I have one of Cliffy's Blackline and one of his normal width playfield protectors, I removed the CG one-piece unit and put in Cliffy's Blackline(the stainless is not as wide and does have a nicer appearance), but you could see maybe 1/32" of playfield wood which I did not like, so I put in the regular width, but with the beating the Mosh Pit takes maybe that's a good thing. Once you remove the assembly underneath then install the Mantis protector, it has a tab with 4 holes that need drilled to mount under the playfield, you have to remove all the screws holding the white PC board, shift it as far left as possible(no connectors were removed by me) and then you can drill 2 holes which I feel is enough--you can't drill the far left 2 holes unless you disconnect a bunch of the connectors.

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Thanks for this!

Thanks for posting tomtest

Lloyd just sent me better instructions that worked. I still had some confusion with the zip file though. Not sure what I did to get it working. You may have an easier time. PM me or Lloyd (LTG) for the instructions. Thanks again Lloyd!

I got the better instructions from LTG. The zip file confusion is what I was dealing with too. Very happy to hear it worked for you, I'll try again on Tuesday. Thanks @LTG and @drummermike

This is the first non number match LE that is shipping that I've heard of I think? Seems odd that non number matches would be shipping already with number matched people waiting. Especially since many non number matchers paid in full earlier than December. Maybe a distributor thing or someone dropped out?

If a non matched MBrLE has been seen in the wild, I would suspect it is a few backroom agreements and a few greased palms of distributors (alls fair in love and pinball? Right?) making things happen for their customers. You pay that extra $1000 and see how soon it shows up on your doorstep. Am I wrong?

I'm waiting for my MBR, somewhat confused by the mosh pit protection issues. Can someone confirm the latest recommendation? Is it to remove what is included completely and replace with the full sized cliffy and add a new mantis protector?

My original protector is holding up. There is a mark where the ball is going in but no bad dents. I would wait and see how it holds up.

Mine is getting banged up a bit ... but I’m not going to change it out for a while.

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I can confirm that the Bally/Williams blades are NOT compatible. The hole is not big enough and only one notch is needed in the back. I am looking for mirror blades for my SE if any knows where to source please advise.

Just a question to confirm. Are you sure the hole is too small? On B/W games you have to remove the bolt from the cabinet and it goes Through the blade. Just wanting to confirm before ordering some. Thanks

I bought the mirror blades from Cointaker for Williams machines and installed in my SE, fit perfectly.

Me too.

I bought a set from here...
https://pinballsidemirrors.com/product/pinball-side-mirrors/

Which at the bottom of the page says "A Division of CoinTaker".

They fit good as far as I can tell. Nothing stopped the install and it took ~10 minutes like usual. The bolt hole lined up fine on our machine.

So weird... I spoke to Melissa at CoinTaker about this and she said they are getting some cut specifically for MBR... because there is a difference in a hole size.

Same here.

Did you send Cliff a pic of what the edgeline looked like on the remake?

In theory, it should line up to the edge same as the original game. I reached out to him to have a look at this thread, too, while he's at it.

I definitely don't want to install the fat protector on a new playfield, that's why I bought into the mantis cliffy edgeline sandwich concept- to protect it properly from the beginning so I wouldn't have to progress to a fat protector for repaired scoop damage.

I will keep the factory scoop protection - it’s doing it’s job and taking the hits rather than the wood. Would be good if they sold spares of those if one wanted to replace it cosmetically.

Nobody dropped out - I ordered our MBRLE about 30 seconds after our distributor started taking orders.

I agree, I have about 50 games on my LE and the factory protector is doing its job. It has some small marks on it that you can’t even see unless you get right up on it at a certain angle

Side note I have my flipper strength set to -4 as the factory setting seemed too strong.

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OK, thank you & sorry, my mistake on the holes. I got mine from Pinball Decals and they are still not centered on the screw. If that was the only issue then I might be OK. However, there are two square notches on the back of the blade. The one at the top is correct for the rear glass channel but there is a second notch that exposes the black wood underneath and that is not correct. I am sure both notches were needed for B/W pins.

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Well I have had #456 for about 1 week now and so far it has been absolutely trouble free. My first impressions are:
1. It isn't boring nor simple and for a mediocre player like myself, it is't easy. I don't remember my first one from 1996 being this tough.
2. It is well built but I think my AFMR LE is better built and has nicer finishing. The topper while nice, does not compare to AFMR'S incredible one. But really, what could?
3. I think that as good as CGC games are, JJP machines remain the standard of excellence and even at a price tag of $1500 more for LE vs. LE, they are the better choice.
4. Having said all this, CGC's MBR LE is a machine worth having. Tons of fun, great play, and very much an eyeful. If you get one, you won't be sorry. It deserves to be in any collection of consequence.
Just my opinion.....
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Can anyone please help with the code upgrade process I did everything cgc required but I get a blank screen on my pin no upgrade?

See post 2179.