LOL. She's actually here and read that.

Crashing the owners club thread for a quick question - does the Remake MB play faster and tougher then the original MB? When I played the Original I seemed to have long ball times while playing. The remake seems to give me more of a challenge and definitely seems faster. This is a good thing for me.

What is your feel? Is remake more fast/challenging? Thanks!

I think it really comes down to how it’s set up and maintained. I have my MBRLE set at almost 7% and wax or novus it frequently, so it plays very fast and it’s challenging.

I’ve played originals and remakes at shows that ranged from floaty/easy to fast/difficult like mine, depending on incline and maintenance.

Just joined the club today!! Wohoo

Congratulations! Welcome to the club.

2 Questions

1. Phantom FLip only lights on one side, game was factory reset is it still calibrating? Switches and lamp work fine.

2. Anyone have a Williams logo to upload and replace the chicago gaming one?

Ok #1 a wire on the eddy board came loose resoldered and it registers now . Reset flip data will see .

Also I get occasional ball hang on the trough protector

I didn't realize this but read here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/monster-bash-phantom-flip-problem-1

I had the same issue, light on the right side showed up in test mode but during Phantom Flip. Not sure if it was a coincidence but I updated the software and it works great now. Phantom Flip works perfect now, lights up and makes every shot.

Thanks, found some logos too in this thread.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1THp-UwMFn_A4XMPIahoYMrmyGP8mlwNr

I took out my trough protector and put in a piece of mylar.

You can make either hard or easier. The remake tends to be faster because the new play field is quicker and the parts are all new. But with a decent effort you can make the original just as fast, clean and wax, sort out all the coils so they move quick. Tighten the pop and sling sensitivities and boom. I had an original but WPC games of that era that I’ve owned start to need a lot of work on the switches and I got fed up replacing them all the time. So after having such a great experience with MMR and AFMR I sold my original and bought an LE. Haven’t looked back. PAPA’s original monster bash I’ve payed at three Pinburghs and it’s slaughtered me every year. But assuming I get a ticket, this year is going to be different!!

I may need to do the same unless someone has a suggestion.

Restored my original williams MB and it plays just as good as a remake. New playfield, new plastics, polished everything within an inch of its lift, new coil sleeves, etc. Took me 5 months MBr plays real nice too, you can't go wrong either way - it's just a matter of how much you like to work on the games. I do, but that restore took the fun out of working on games for a good 6 months...

You can set up the game a little bit steeper to see if that will help.

OK thanks I did make it a touch steeper. I am trying something else as well will report back
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So.... for those who have been looking for a solution to the drain issue.

The best solution I’ve come to thus far has been to bend the ballguide above dracula. I bend it out slightly so the ball trajectory is curved a little more inward. It seems counterintuitive since we are trying to -Avoid- middle drains, but that’s what works. Fairly consistently keeps the ball in play. For a little while. After a few good solid plays, the ball guide works its way back, and I’m back to nudging and praying.

So the other night I’m thinking about what I can use to wedge in there to keep the ballguide in place. I root around for rubber, and find a ring that perfectly fits around the existing black rubber -and- pushes the ballguide out. It worked flawlessly!!

Took me all of about 30 seconds to install (lift the plastic gently and shove it down around the black post rubber, push the ballguide out of the way so it has clearance, done.

I do want to find a similarly sized piece that’s made of firmer rubber, but this seems to be the trick. Does not impede the ball whatsoever, and I’ve got a perfectly level game with no issue hitting Drac’s Bruno Maglis!

@Rdoyle1978..... can you post a pic?

Sure, will do tomorrow!

Hi Guys,
I have a couple of small issue i am running into with my MBr. First is the top pop bumper seems to not always register when you do the first plunge so looking at how to raise the sensitivity on those. Second - Frank is becoming very slow to stand up when you start the multi ball is that normal or is there a setting for that as well. Any help would be appreciated.

Thx

My Drac came with (what I think is) trimmed feet from CGC so, fortunately, I haven't had the Drac drain issue - but I'm curious if bending the ball guide above Drac still allows the ball to feed to the right flipper, or does it redirect the ball over to the left flipper?

fake knockers are just as fun, and hold their shape better over the years.

If I’m not mistaken the remakes came with the original full feet. Can you post a photo?

Anyway the ball guide change drops the ball fairly consistently to the same spot on the Right flipper. This changes the ball trajectory so that it avoids Drac but still continues in a pretty straight path down to the flipper

Here's the feet on mine. On the front they angle back from the top at about maybe a 60 degree angle. I don't have another game to compare to, so maybe this is normal? Mine's a very late production LE.

DracFeet (resized).jpg

I just repaired an original MB and the feet were cut back farther. I might do that on mine.

that looks like the original feet to me. The later williams games basically cut off everything that extends beyond his leg

Please put a tiny drop of oil on the pivot points, then run him up and down a few times in test.

Adjust the leaf blade switch for it below the playfield.

Turn the game off. Lift playfield up and lean back. See the leaf blade switch ? The long one with the plastic spoon is pushed by a plastic rod coming down from the pop bumper skirt. This plastic spoon should be clean, ( not worn on older games ) well centered on the rod, just resting on it, not pushing it up. The shorter lower leaf blade switch should be close enough so the slightest ball hit triggers it yet vibration doesn't set it off. A little adjusting/tweaking, and you'll be fine.

LTG : )

I believe you can buy a NOS Drac at PPS or Marco (I forget which) which has the feet pre-cut. Might be a simpler solution and you can go back if you ever sell.

and I STRONGLY suggest you buy one of these guys if you're messing with the trigger switch leaf blade:

https://www.pinballlife.com/ultimate-leaf-adjuster-tool.html

Thanks - that’s a good idea for sure!

Can someone confirm these are the default dip switches? I was cycling through and accidentally changed on

Also do you recommend updating to 1.03 mine is on 1.02

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Is 1.03 recently out? Within the last couple weeks?

Yes and yes.

DIP’s are correct.

I am on 1.03. There were several changes. Volume adjustment changes. Additional scoop adjustments in the settings to help correct down the center drains.

I installed it in mine back in August/September. So it was available then.

I updated .. says it’s from June !

https://www.chicago-gaming.com/coinop/monster-bash/update

As a side note a am under the weather so wasn’t gonna play it .. but I said play one game to test it .. and I couldn’t play just one it’s such a fun game

How do u update a cgc game? Like a stern?

Similarly.. uses a microSD card instead Of USB. 8GB or larger .

https://www.chicago-gaming.com/coinop/monster-bash/update

LTG : )

Sorry i have Firmware 1.03 on my mbrle nr. 342 and also the Scoop sdtm Problem. but also when i use the washer. or i dont havend understand where i have to use the washer…. can you Show me i Picture please?
thanxs tom

Quick question. I should receive my MBrLE anytime soon now, it is work upgrading the translite to a proper mirrored backglass and if so is the classic pinball one compatible and worth the price?

Cheers
Étienne

Original MB and remake have a translite.

Mirrored or the 3D one is up to you, if you think it looks better, for the price.

LTG : )

Oh did not know there is a 3d

It looks nice - it is VERY expensive. You will need to increase the light output of the backbox considerably. I would not make it a top priority

I'm sorry. Pinball Dreams doesn't have one. Yet. https://www.pinball-dreams.com/en/flipper-pinball-flipperautomaten-modding-shop/3d-translites.html

Maybe contact them about availability in the future.

LTG : )

I was eyeing the back glass as well , def a waste of $$$ but sure looks nice haha

Sure, will take a picture when I get home

FYI: I have an LE and installed 1.0.3, and Frank and his target wall stopped working during play. They work when tested but don't come down during play. Going back to 1.0.2 fixed it. Also, my plasma disc stopped working, and I'm waiting on CGC to send me a new one.

I’ve got LE 551