Everyone is <sarcasm>so shocked</sarcasm>.

Looking forward to seeing MBr and also the pricing.

I would like to commend the pinball community for the great sleuthing!

Wow im so surprised.....

I kinda feel bad for those holding on to their originals. I don't care for MB, but I am looking for an AFM and honestly, am not even considering an original. Why would I?

Looking forward to the "special feature"

Don’t feel bad for me Glenn, I just traded my LOTR straight up for a fully restored MB w/ color DMD last week and couldn’t be more stoked! It plays like butter, and if it wasn’t for the remake coming out I never would have been able to get one.

But yeah, I guess somebody who spent 13 grand a few years ago, that definitely kind of sucks. Win some ya lose some, and I’ll certainly lose when they bring out the Tron Vault and TOM. But think about all the fun I get to have with them in the meantime!

Depends. Like when MMR was announced and then came out. If you paid big bucks for a mint original, you are probably okay, though not appreciating as much any more. If you paid big buck for a turd, then yes, you got kicked in the nuts.

LTG : )

Because an original restored AFM plays better

LOTR for a restored MB with color? wow that is a great trade. I'm waiting to see if this remake has the code update b/c if it does, I would pass on all originals as the remake for attack from mars plays just as good IMO. If it doesn't have the code update, I would easily pick up a cheaper original.

And the lighting for the inserts doesn’t look like crap

Well... my LOTR was HUO, fully brassed, and had a pinsound, color DMD, tilt topper, and led ocd... so it wasn’t like a huge steal or anything. Both of us were super happy with the trade so that’s all that matters!

That depends on who you ask.

True. Just been my experience with playing 4 restored ones over the years as well as a few remakes

I agree

I heard when you set the game volume to 11 it engages four extra speakers hidden inside the cabinet.

and you spontaneously combust.

That's ok man you don't have to feel bad for me it's cool.....

Jeez, I so need to have more money

Don't mind me. Just waiting on LBWSKIr.
It won't be 21k.

Want.

So just confirming the pricing on the LE will include a shooter rod this time?

I’ll buy one. I’ve had great luck with my MMR

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/documenting-the-entire-life-of-a-medieval-madness-remake

Hopefully you plan to put it at bonus round. I’ll put quarters in it.

Don't feel bad for me.

I paid $3K for my HUO MB back in 2003. Pricing for MBr won't be that epic.

If I sold it tomorrow, I would get more than double what I paid for it.

Pricing for MBr will be more than $6K, so the resale profit on MBr won't be that epic either.

Don't feel bad for me.

True... though I've also never seen any MB go for less than any LOTR regardless of condition or addons... both are great games though.

Only because Flynn was a solid detective. If not, they'd still be telling you "Stay tuned!"

Interested to see how CGC counters that problem in the future with UL certification being searchable on the net.

I'm psyched at the possibility of picking up an original now. I have played both original and remake of mmr and AFM. I will admit to liking the bigger display on AFM, but in both cases, the originals play and feel better than a remake all day long. Can't imagine that will change with MB.

Easy solution is to announce the game before they obtain UL certification.

May be the only solution...

or use a code name like Stern does?

Indeed. The Bally/Williams originals of MM, AFM and MB have been and will be vastly inferior in every sense, in sturdier build quality, in lighting, additions, toppers and interactivity. You have to wonder WHY anyone holding on to an original would or could offer a reason to hold them as the age-old argument "original is better" has been roundly disproved. But I can't blame these people. The value of their machines has plummeted and the desirability is rapidly declining. Some in this fraternity who have exploited and gloated over the increasing value deserve no sympathy, but those innocents who never intended to sell their machines are now (sadly) holding to an inferior product.

CGC rules!

Fair enough but I completely and utterly disagree on the feel. And when you factor in everything else the original dinosaurs are left in the dust.

I’ve owned the remakes of AFM and MM, they were fine games and I have no complaints.

I recently picked up an original MB and it looks and plays like a dream. It might not have a head banging Dracula with lasers shooting out of his eyes sitting on top of the thing, or shake the house when I hit a monster, but I’m having just as much if not more fun than I had with either of the remakes.

I dunno, like most who jump into the hobby I used to be guilty of sticking dolls and toys all over my machines. Now that I’ve spent some time just enjoying and actually playing the hell out of them instead I’m OK with a nice playing dusty old dinosaur such as my MB.

Can’t wait for the other remakes so I can pick up some more dinosaurs on the cheap, please keep buying them and telling other people originals are relics, I truly appreciate it!

I'll never forget the time I went to a seller's house who was interested in selling an MM to me before any of the MMr stuff was announced.
The MM game was routed and need some work to it.
I offered an LOTR huo, SM huo, and 1K cash for his MM.
He declined and told me its worth more and how he could get a better deal elsewhere.
To this day I couldn't believe he declined the deal, but I'm so happy he did.
Looking forward to MBr and placing an order.

When I got into Pinball 3 years ago. Top of my list where: TRON LE, MB, and Hobbit (in that order) to have 3 total pins. My max budget was 10K. The ONLY one below that was TH. So, I got that (and am very glad I did). Let that sink in, I ordered a NIB JJP SE and it was several thousand cheaper than either of the other two used.

Since then I have been hoping for MBr and TRON Vault. One down - one to go.

I failed to mention that I also pick up dinosaurs and enjoy them, overpaying recently for a mint-mint-mint condition Gilligan's Island for $5,200. My analysis/framing was scene-specific to three machines, and I used the term dinosaur to frame the originals. Yes the term was admittedly too harsh and sarcastic but I still think CGC's remakes are better than the originals. You were polite and I thank you for that.

It’s all good, totally respect your opinion man! We’re all super fortunate that we can ignore real world bullshit sometimes and debate the merits of toys here. Never really saw a reason to be a dick if you don’t agree with somebody. Honestly if I didn’t trade for my original MB I’d be all over that remake. They’re seriously great for everybody

Boo Hoo Hoo Hoo poor pitiful me and here I thought my MB was going to finance my way through Harvard Boo Hoo Hoo

Wouldn't it be cool if the pf CD was replacing by a spinning LP?

Even better, a 45 spinning inside of a 78!

Or just a wifi symbol for streaming

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Touche!!!!!!

Can't wait !

Indeed, it is truly a miracle that 20 years later these machines are still running.

Why shouldn't they? It's only wood, plastic and electronics.

I'm more impressed that vintage cars and machinery still functions.

It's just shows that anything well maintained can keep rocking almost forever.

I'm waiting for the originals to start reaching "used" rates. When MB, AFM, and MM start to get into the 4s, then we're talking!!!

Hahahahahahaha I got a good laugh to see that 14 pinsiders (still rising) downgraded my post where I said the originals are inferior to the CGC re-makes.

Of course these deluded people are obviously owners of originals and are fearing their machines losing value.

I am hoping that even MORE will downgrade THAT post and THIS one too, as this will clearly confirm the validity of my position!!

Hahahahaha! Make sure you get to more Bally/Williams original owners and keep these downgrades coming!!!!!

THE TRUTH really hurts I know! Ha!