If true. This would be amazing.
I'm just hoping for color changing G.I. and new lightshows.

I thought of this a few months ago when it was rumoured new code was coming. I really really hope it’s true too.

Quoted from another thread as it’s possibly the best idea I’ve seen suggested for new code:

This is such a big news it should have another rumor thread if it’s own!

that crashing sound is the original games value....

sweet as I've only played this game 2 times in my life.

Anyone willing to make a bet that the dual game (if true) mode would only be available on premium and LE models?

Ya, buddy and I just had that convo. I bet the standard will be stripped out. However they’d have to do some good code lock down to keep people from “hacking” it in....

I had no interest before but if this is true, big interest.

however, I doubt it.

I always said, the hardware is the biggest expense, so if someone had done software versions for pins this would be amazing.

If true, this would be awesome!

I have been strongly considering getting MBr, if they have an optional new game mode I will definitely get one

Sounds cool as long as the 2nd game is actually good. The original ruleset was designed by a guy named Lyman who is pretty good at what he does. Will the new software/rules guy be able to top him and make a compelling game?

This could open the door to CGC doing new code for AFMr and MMr and selling it as an upgrade. Then again, we have been waiting a long time for the upgraded large display for MMr as seen above.

Huge news if true!

I just got AFM LE and large display (my last 3 pins are WoZ, DI LE and AFM LE) looking at the small display in my other pins it's like looking at a tube TV after you got used to flat screen.

Exciting and perfect for CC or TOTAN, just curious what people want changed or updated on MB?

This sounds like a great idea. I have a feeling the art will undergo a revamp as well.

Forget MMR and AFMR.... This could lead to TOM or TOTAN with better rules!

Didn’t Judge Dredd have 2 rules to choose from?

Who is rumored to be doing these awesome new rulesets and coding? Anybody we’ve heard of?

Yeah, Whodunnit kinda did too.

I have no interest in MBr because I don’t care for the code. This could be a game changer. Could explain the many delays.

If this is true, whomever is doing the coding could possibly be doing something for cactus canyon as well.

Really opens the door to these classics.

This would be a game changer, fingers crossed

All fine and good if its done well and isnt glitchy. Doing code from nothing to something good/great isnt a easy feat especially if its new animations , sounds and lighting... lot of work to make better than the original .

shutupandtakemymoney!!!!

New rules makes sense.

Think about it people have been playing these Williams games for 20 years. They know all the rules. And now that remakes are bringing down prices there has to be something else to sweeten the pot. People are no longer getting the deal of a $12000 MM for only $8000!

Stuff like TOM and TOTAN is getting your there in price but probably won't exceed 8k. So yes, these remakes are gonna need more in the future now that price is balancing out.

They make sense only from a marketing standpoint. Can they make up more in sales than it's going to cost to farm out or have someone's nephew concoct a new ruleset? Then yes, it makes sense.

From a player's standpoint?

Not sure if you've ever heard of Lyman Sheats, he's the guy who did the original software for Monster Bash and he's pretty good at his job. Whomever they get to redo this software isn't going to be Lyman Sheats. It's NOT going to be an improvement. In fact it's likely a nobody who is not accomplished in making interesting, fun rulesets, good soundtracks, and quality animations for pinball games.

So what's the added value here? Novelty?

BOP 2.0 is NOT an improvement, and considering how mediocre the original game is that's saying something.

Says you...

I think BOP 2.0 is a lot of fun. Almost every year someone brings it to MGC and I always play it and enjoy.

I too enjoy BOP 2.0

After thinking about it I take my initial comment back. I bet the second game mode won't be included with any model of the machine. Too perfect of an opportunity to test the waters with DLC. Second game mode available for only $79.99 !

Has anyone heard anything about pricing yet?

Part of (most of) what made that game so desirable to pinball folks is the code. It's funny, and EASY. It'll be neat to have different code to play.. but I highly doubt they'll be bettering what's already there in any conceivable way whatsoever.....

Listened to the podcast from Lyman

http://www.slamtiltpodcast.com/2018/07/18/episode-100-lyman-laments/

Excellent listen if you have not

He said something like original AFM code took like one year. (Can’t recall the exact words he said).

I’m not saying he sat at his computer for one year straight but I’m thinking was a lot of thought and play testing and tweaking that went into it. Things like the sound, dots and call outs are all well done not to mention the scoring and difficulty level to reach the wizard mode.

I’m sure it’s hard to do a clean sheet all new rules but it might be easy to keep the old rules and just add something on top or even something basic like team cooperation 2 v 2 four player game.

Anyway it’s all circular talking until we even know what if anything is changed.

I put updated code in my Demolition Man that a hobbyist wrote. A lot of effort and work went into the code and it was different.. but it wasn't better or even as good as the original code.

Someone did copy IJ Williams code for the Stern pin. I never played it but it seems like it would be nice to have if you could have the pin with two complete different rules. I can’t begin to imagine what MBr will be like. All new or just old code with extras? or will it be same and original like AFM and MM remake were?

The rumors are running wild on this one.........

So at what point do you just make a "Monster Bash 2" and re-design the playfield? If code, display, and sounds are changing (almost certainly not for the better imo) and you need the license anyway, why not an original game (or at least like Stern did with BM66 where it's derivative of TDK but shoots somewhat different)? I've felt this way all along with these re-makes but now even more so when the rumors are saying new code (which means displays and sound changes).

As long as the code is easily changed back and forth, I don't see the harm. I like the original code for the simplicity but adding another option to make it a little deeper sounds interesting.

Definitely agree the original code needs to be intact, probably what I would play most of the time. New code, as long as it's optional, would be sweet!

I think this would be pretty cool.

I think Bride 2.0 was a letdown but really cool in other ways.

Whatever happens Monster Bash Remake will be Amazing

If this rumor turns to be truth, then I cannot see a downside to this. If you don't like the optional game (2.0), then you don't have to play it - you already have a winner with version 1.0, being a brand new MBr! My thought is that it would be nice just to have options! (new rules, lightshow, sounds, graphics, toppers, etc.!)

As long as they keep the price in check with the 'prospective' added features, I just can't see where this news would be regarded as bad. In my book, more gaming = more fun!

The rumors about this rumor have been rumored for months.

It's also rumored that MBr will be self aware and will link with all other MBr's around the world to create a collective that will take over the planet.

Seems pretty likely as isn't this exactly what Kingpin is going to have?

The real question if true, is who has coded it?