Looks very nice.

In my best Borat voice..........."Very nice".

These are the little touches to games that I love to see. Just like coasterguys TAF BG, might have to incorporate this into my game.

looks good. Love MB!

damn looks great

Very nice indeed!! Looks great.

It appears that LED usage, is becoming a form of artistry, thats looks so much better than my stock MB back glass, it is incredible.

Actually, it is that clear, that i just noticed that the art on the drums, looks like Australia.....and i have had a MB for nearly 3 years!!!

The green light emanating from the windows looks fantastic!

Like you, I have found the minis to be great for backbox use.

Beautiful!

i like cool white frosted's

Awesome job!

Looking forward to seeing what you do on your Creech & TOM backboxes!

(Nice job on the TOTAN & STTNG backboxes BTW!)

The issue that concerns me is that the leds in the backbox don't seem to disperse the light evenly. Maybe it is just the photos. I haven't seen Leds in person. I might be interested in using them in my TZ in place of the flashing 545's that are supposed to highlight specific areas but have not heard of anyone doing this.

TZ looks great with LED's and if you get Cointaker's door mod for the BG it just totally sets it off. I have their color changing mod for my Monster Bash backglass and it looks great IMHO.

Leds seem to give the translite a washed out look, makes them look like a bad reproduction.

Leds are not for me .

Jim

I find this to be true if you use the superbright whites that seem to come with the kits. That's why I think if you going to try LED's you should customize your look with frosted lights. I never seen the retro LED's in person, but it could be the best of both worlds.

I see a trend of people abusing LEDs in machines, while I think leds in the controlled lamps look ok,I really do not like LEDs for GI lighting at all.

Jim

Great seeing all the variations.

Would like to see TOM as well

Looks Amazing! really made it come alvie!

Good job!!

+1

I'm generally not a huge fan of mods, but the color changing door mod looks fantastic! I've gotten so used to my TZ, that whenever I come across a normal one, it just looks kind of dull and lifeless.

+1

I like LEDs in the back box. Personal choice really. GI lighting I use incandecents, but I love LEDs in the inserts. MB inserts are barely seen with incandencents. I just think LEDs make games look better. You do have to play around with them to get the look you want.

I like your back box Robknapp, I think it is an improvement.

I'm having a great time playing with different combinations in my DE SW. I am installing the CoinTaker kit and have noticed that the remaining GI bulbs still to be changed out seem to throw a sickly yellow light compared to the LEDs. I'm about 85% done and will not leave any original bulbs in there. Also, I am going to order a handful of additional LEDs due to creative ideas that have occurred to me during the process. I find that getting the right combinations is a big part of the fun of personalizing the machine.

Rob, I think it is really cool that you mod your games with LEDs and having fun with it !

Jim

If you're looking for exceptional brightness, then BC's pinball have excellent bulbs, though pricey. Pinball Life has the best prices but do not offer warm white IIRC, and their bulbs are not as bright. The frosted cointaker bulbs are very directional which may often not be ideal for backbox application.

I bought a bunch just before the summer, and cointaker's warm white frosted (non-polarized) are my favorite LED after trying a bunch of samples. I don't think they're that directional, I really like them for GI. I've been thinking of trying them in the back box.

RobKnapp, is there a trick to pulling the sockets out from the WPC-95 style back glass enclosures? I tried on my AFM and they are really tight even with squeezing the side tabs. I must be missing something... the wiring is so tight between the sockets that I'm hoping to hear the secret before I mess something up.

Looks great! I'm getting a MB next week and I'm going to use this as a guide when I do the LED conversion.

I've found just removing the backglass from the light tub is a whole lot easier (and no risk of cracking something).

Just slide off the 4 side trim pieces and you're good to go.

NM - I thought about removing the trim and front glass but figured there must be an easier way to quickly play around with LEDs. Thanks for the confirmation!

The risk of trying to remove them the obvious way (CAREFULLY squeezing/wiggling the socket out of the light tub) is those sockets could be brittle from years of heat.

Also use caution when removing the bulbs from the sockets--too much twisting of the lamp in relation to the socket will crumble the plastic too.

And of course the light tubs themselves are beyond rare never having been reproduced, so tread carefully all the way around.

Just wanted to say that I followed Rob's guide for the MB back-box on my own MB last night and it came out GREAT. It is much more 3 dimensional and has more color now. The regular bulbs made it look nearly monochromatic and boring by comparison.

Instead of the 3 LEDs from Pinball Life, I used the Super Mini's as Rob suggested as the 3 LEDs were too bright. The Super Mini's seem to be *perfect*. I'm very happy with the results!

I used this as the blueprint for my MB as well, and it looks fantastic.

Holy Thread Resurrection Batman!

I followed this guide but used purple instead of pink, the camera doesn't do a good job of taking the picture as its in a badly lit area but I'm pleased with the results - with ColorDMD it rocks.

What are folks using for flasher replacements?

Cheers,
Neil.

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It isn't always bad to dig a thread up..."What's a torso?"

MB just moved in last week.

I used Comet purple passion up high, red behind the flames, and blue down low (looked a bit washed out with 2 SMD sunlight) and behind the moon.

I haven't hit the PF yet, and I'm trying to fight off the urge to order the color DMD.

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colordmd is one of the best on this machine!

I like “scan” best on MB. But really either look amazing, for different reasons. I’d go with LCD though personally

I've got LCD on mine but they didn't sell LED then. Now I'd go for LED.

LED ColorDMD is amazing and fits better than the LCD version.

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