(Topic ID: 208258)

Molex vs. TE Connectivity/AMP


By jsa

1 year ago



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  • Latest reply 1 year ago by G-P-E
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    #1 1 year ago

    Has anyone here had any pro/con experiences with using the TE Connectivity/AMP brand .100 connectors? Married to TE/AMP's version of the Trifercon connector, 86016-3, it should be roughly the same as a Molex KK .100 with a 08-52-0113 Trifercon, right?

    I ask this because TE still makes 28 position connectors, which are hard to come by.

    #2 1 year ago

    First -- most AMP connectors are first rate. Much better than Molex in my opinion.

    Plus --> Available in a wide variety of sizes all the way up to 36 pin.
    Plus --> Somewhat affordable (but considerably higher than the old Molex plugs were).
    Plus --> Box contacts can't be beat for reliability.
    Minus --> even with the low pressure contacts (part number 86016-3), about 27 box contacts can be a real bugger to push onto the header. I have had some of these contacts actually break off the locking tang and push back out through the back of the connector. But majority of time - they work fine.
    Minus --> Good crimps with these pretty much require using the AMP Certi-crimp crimpers...VERY expensive. Part number 91516-1. Can often find used ones on ebay.

    For those that want AMP part numbers:
    28 pin plug = 5-87499-4
    contact = 86016-3 (not 571-860163 as above)
    keying plug = 86286-1
    Don't try the intermediate or high pressure contacts with high pin count connectors. Those require a sledge hammer to get them installed!

    Oh, and one last minus for AMP connectors in general. Who created their part numbering scheme?!?! Their part marking has no rhyme or reason to it. At least with Molex and others, you can guess at part numbers based on product family and pin count.

    #3 1 year ago
    Quoted from G-P-E:

    contact = 86016-3 (not 571-860163 as above)

    My apologies, that was the Mouser number! It should be 86016-3. I'll edit my post to avoid confusion if anyone's looking.

    This is the confirmation I needed. Thanks! I will add one more item, cosmetically, they are a few millimeters deeper a connector than Molex, which for me is fine, but as a result the low pressure contacts are a tad bit longer.

    #4 1 year ago
    Quoted from G-P-E:

    Good crimps with these pretty much require using the AMP Certi-crimp crimpers...VERY expensive. Part number 91516-1. Can often find used ones on ebay.

    Please tell me crimps are possible without a $800 tool!

    #5 1 year ago
    Quoted from jsa:

    Please tell me crimps are possible without a $800 tool!

    I found a cheaper ($50) that's manufactured by AMP/Tyco model 90202-2 that is supposed to do the same thing.

    #6 1 year ago

    Might be able to use a cheaper non-AMP tool. Last time I tried - I only had a few to choose from and didn't try any Sargents.
    I believe the 90202-2 was the predecessor to the newer 91516-1 and I believe the 90202-2 was what I used before... but can't check on this, I left my AMP "bible" at work.

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