I need a tool to repin my molex connectors. Im trying to do it with needle nose pliers. lets just say its NOT WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, can anyone give me a link to the proper tools? BTW its a molex .156 if that makes a difference.
I need a tool to repin my molex connectors. Im trying to do it with needle nose pliers. lets just say its NOT WORKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway, can anyone give me a link to the proper tools? BTW its a molex .156 if that makes a difference.
I think this may be what you are looking for:
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1590&parent=235
They also have a kit for this at pinball life.
Great plains electronics...he has many kinds..
http://www.greatplainselectronics.com/search.asp?nobox=&scat=&stext=crimper&stype=&sprice=&pg=2
2 pages of them...
Dude, thats not the right tool for Gottlieb System 1 connectors and contacts.
This is:
http://www.greatplainselectronics.com/Category-140.asp
First tool listed. Be very careful as the tip can break if not carefull. I have broken mine but used a grinding wheel to fix. Made a few "home made" extractors but the Molex one works better. Just be gentle and don't force with the extraction tool.
I pull on the wire as I am extracting and it works on most contacts 95% of the time.
Ocasionally I get some very stubborn contacts. Just take your time and don't force.
Mouser also carrys the tool here:
http://www.molex.com/molex/products/datasheet.jsp?part=active/0011030016_APPLICATION_TOOLIN.xml&channel=Products
Dude, that's an extraction tool not a crimper.
He is crimping wires from what I can gather??
Or are you just using IDC type??
OK Thought He neede a good extraction tool also.
Contact info with suggested crimping tools, All available at GPE:
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Product ID: 08-52-0072
Crimp Contact, 0.156"
Discounts Apply !
15% Discount for purchase of 100 or more
Crimp Contact
0.156", 18-20AWG<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Tin plated Phosphor Bronze
Maximum Current Rating = 7 Amps
Molex 2578 series, Product Family KK
Flat mating surface
View Product Specifications
View Product Drawing
Use Crimper 3136-CT (HTR-2445A), 1026-CT or 1028-CT
Made by Molex in USA
Price: $0.08
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This is the size for most of the wires going to the connectors.
get at least 100, You also get a 15% discount on the hundred order
Product ID: 08-50-0134
Crimp Contact, 0.156"
Discounts Apply !
15% Discount for purchase of 100 or more
Crimp Contact
0.156", 22-26AWG (Smaller wire size)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Tin plated Phosphor Bronze.
Maximum Current Rating = 5.5 Amps
Molex 2578 series, Product Family KK
Flat mating surface.
View Product Specifications
View Product Drawing
Use Crimper 3136-CT (HTR-2445A), 1026-CT or 1028-CT
Made by Molex in USA
Price: $0.08
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This is the one for the Power supply headers.
Product ID: 08-52-0113
Crimp Contact, 0.156"
Discounts Apply !
15% Discount for purchase of 100 or more
Crimp Contact
0.156", 18-20AWG
Tin plated Phosphor Bronze
Maximum Current Rating = 7 Amps
Molex 6838 series, Product Family KK
Trifurcon style
View Product Specifications
View Product Drawing
Not for use with edge type connectors.
Use Crimper 3136-CT (HTR-2445A), 1026-CT or 1028-CT
Made by Molex in USA
Price: $0.08
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Mouser also carries all of the above contacts
Ya I actually need a good extraction tool myself, I usually just use a small jewelers screwdriver, but it doesn't work that great...
I'd rather deal with GPE personally, he is part of our hobby, very willing to help. So I'd rather support Ed @ GPE before Mouser...just saying for those that don't know him...
Sorry I didn't realize he was looking for a crimper. I thought he was looking for an insertion tool.
Quoted from pdman:Dude, thats not the right tool for Gottlieb System 1 connectors and contacts.
The type of system was not specified in post that I could see.
Just trying to help a brotha out can't get it right all the time guys.
Tom I made one from a jewelers screwdiver. I used a bench grinder to file flat a flat head blade. Worked OK but not as good as the "RealMcCoy"
I also made one from a jigsaw blade. Found the ~ thickness and used the grinder to trim off the teeth and get to correct width. Again not as good as the real Deal.
Tools are an investment and it's good to have the proper tools. Saves Time and energy.
I'm looking for the crimper for putting those pins on. I have some but I can't do it it well with needlenose pliers. It is for a system one. I have the extraction tool. I just need a crimper for putting new connectors on.
GPE has them. tomdotcom posted the link above.
I use this one:
Product ID: 3136-CT
Crimper, 0.156"
Professional Grade "B" Type Crimper For 0.156" contacts
Crimper Type HTR-2445A
Use with the following crimp contacts:
08-52-0072
08-52-0113
08-50-0134
Manufacturer: Sargent Tools
Made in USA
Click here for Instructions
Click here for detailed handle parts drawing
Click here for Calibration
Click here for Maintenance
Price: $100.00
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The advantage of this crimper is it crimps BOTH the wire and the insulation tabs.
The cheaper crimpers you must crimp the wire first and then the installation.
While that is OK, I opted to get the better crimper as it holds the contacts in place securely making it easier and faster to crimp. Got it from Ebay for less than half the cost, shipping included.
Considering the amount of System ! games I have worked on and restored, it was worth the investment.
I know it can be a struggle at first - but if you really want to get started and don't want to wait on a mail order - a regular old crimping tool from RS, Lowes, etc. will work just fine. It won't be quite as easy - or refined - as a specialized tool, but it will do the job.
Especially compared to needlenose pliers....
Sit down at your kitchen table with some spare wire and a hundred or so .156 pins and practice away. You'll mangle 20-30 to start with before you start getting some semblance of a good crimp. After awhile, you'll get a system that works for you and your tool, i.e. "hold the pin in this hand, cradle the wire between my fingers, crimp the insulation part first, flip it over, blah blah blah."
Even if you get a real good crimper, you still need to have some sacrifical practice pins. It will make sense after awhile. And you will screw up a bunch of pins in the process of learning. The good thing is they are cheap.
My first experience with this was re-pinning every connector in a Sys 1 over the course of a weekend. I know that seems daunting to you now, but it's very doable and by the time you are done you'll be a pro (and your hands and fingers will be screaming bloody murder at you....). Good luck.
Quoted from The_Dude_Abides:Sorry I didn't realize he was looking for a crimper. I thought he was looking for an insertion tool.
pdman said:Dude, thats not the right tool for Gottlieb System 1 connectors and contacts.The type of system was not specified in post that I could see.
Just trying to help a brotha out can't get it right all the time guys.
No problem Dude, I thought stang was looking for an extraction tool also.
Did you read the last thread you started about this? I posted the Great plains link and said I am free all night tonight just working on my hulk if you want to come by and borrow mine.
I only saw the link for the pins. I have the pins. I'm going to order the crimper after I get paid. Cheapest one I could find is 79 dollars. I like the idea of the one step crimper. I'm going to get that one.
Go back to your other thread and click the link. It starts off with pins, scroll down. First crimper there is what I have. 13 dollars. Its real easy to crimp the wire twice. After the first crimp the second one take a split second more. That extra 60 bucks goes a long way on parts for this machine. Send me some pics of your backglass We may have to work some deal on that if you are willing!
Sadly I have fallen in love with my backglass and my playfield. They are in great shape and I am going to attempt to teach myself all of the repairs I need to do myself. But if I do ever choose to sell my hulk I will trade you my backglass for yours. Straight up. No cash needed. You'd just have to pick up.
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