I think I bought the wrong one. It was the 1 ton lift weighing 78 KGS which is about 170lbs. Works great but definately is not portable.

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Do you mean the 1000lb cart? 2000lbs is 1 ton.

The 500lb capacity lift cart weighs about 100lbs--it's much more manageable.

Oops, my mistake. 1000lb lift

They are nice carts but very heavy, I think they lift higher too, was checking them out the other day, you wouldn't want to have to throw it in the back of a truck without some help.

My F350 truck has a pretty high bed so I had to find a lift that went up higher than most. I ended up with this one from Northern Tool and love it. It feels much higher quality than the harbor freight ones and it lifts 50 inches high! Yes it's twice the price but my back is worth it.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200631992_200631992

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Nice find. Looks like it weights 133lbs, so it's still somewhat manageable to handle.

It does look a little ridiculous going up that high, though

Wow, that's really high up when it tips over!!!!

That thing needs outriggers, lol.

All you really have to do is put STEEL hinges where the handle meets the cart,and just bolt them together with case hardened bolts,use the holes already there,and the handle moves ,not rocket science!

What kind of a drill bit do I need to get through the 45 deg elbow and the handle bar so I can put a bolt in place when I want the handle attached and can remove easily when I want the handle off for transport?image_(resized).jpeg

Hey I recognize that foot ... it's mine.

I just used a drill bit equal the the diameter of the bolt I was using. Rough guess is 3/8" ... maybe 5/16".

I now have lift envy.

Honestly though ... it looks to be the same lift, but with an extra segment in the scissor mech. I'm pretty happy with the quality of the HF lift actually.

Anyone have a recommendation on replacement wheels that are just a little bigger/cushier than the stock HF wheels? I transport my pins around the back of my house across patio block and things are a bit bouncy as is.

I just bought one. At $164.00 what a deal!
I just cut the handle off and welded on at 45degree angle.
Works great.
E.

Yep stolen from your posts. Thanks again for the help

I guess you don't have any problems putting legs on with that stand, the "cherry picker" pinball lift.

This is exactly what I did, took me about 30 minutes

d0n - Did you have to modify it in any way? Or was it ready to move pins right outta the box?

Yikes! I have the HF unit... and THAT feels tippy.

faz

Got a 20% off coupon in mail from Harbor Freight which got me 34 bucks off this table:

http://www.harborfreight.com/500-lb-capacity-hydraulic-table-cart-61405.html

Coupon code is: 23507454
Valid through 6/26/16

The 20% off coupon is pretty easy to find online if they don't mail you them anymore (like me lol) and I actually just found out that if you can get one of harborfreight's coupons on your phone they can scan it or just punch in the numbers. I printed one out but lost it when I got to the store. I took a chance and pulled it up on my phone and they took it no problem.

A couple slight differences on SKU models.....FYI when ordering..... NT>

SKU 61405
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Brand Pittsburgh Automotive
Caster material Polyurethane
Material Steel
Platform length (in.) 27-3/4 in.
Platform width (in.) 17-11/16 in.======
Caster size (in.) 4 in.
Maximum Lift Height (in.) 28-1/2 in.======
Minimum height (in.) 9-1/4 in.========
Product Height 36-1/4 in.=======
Product Length 36 in.========
Product Weight 89 lb.
Product Width 17-3/4 in.=======
Shipping Weight 95.80 lb.=========

SKU 60730
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Brand Pittsburgh Automotive
Platform length (in.) 27-3/4 in.
Platform width (in.) 17-5/8 in.
Caster size (in.) 4 in.
Maximum Lift Height (in.) 27-1/2 in.
Minimum height (in.) 8-1/8 in.
Product Height 28-7/8 in.
Product Length 30-1/2 in.
Product Width 17-5/8 in.
Shipping Weight 90.80 lb.

I just got me one of these. They're having a killer sale right now plus I think the cashier used a 25% coupon she had under the counter. Total was $145.51.

Did you get the 1,000 lb one? I thought the 500 lb one was reg $150?

I got the 500lb. Reg $219.99 Sale 169.99

http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=lift+table

Right on. I guess I got lucky then. Great buy. Such a lifesaver. Turns so many two man jobs into one.

I'm gonna need it for tomorrow.

25% off for Easter

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My HF lift table no longer smoothly goes down. I have to press the release handle every 2 or so seconds so it incrementally lowers 1/2" at a time. Anyone else has this problem? Any fix? The cable it ok and pressing the release at the cylinder does not help.

Mine was like this out of the box. It never bothered me, I figured that's just the way it worked.

It's suppposed to go down slowly (maybe), but smoothly. And when there is no load, it goes down fast.

Picked one up just for working in legs. So far so good. Will need to do handle mod but so many to choose from.

My lift table will no longer raise. I used it four times and then it was set aside for a few months. Now, it will not raise at all. There is no resistance when pushing down the jack lever. Any suggestions or anyone else have this issue?

Yes. Need to bleed the cylinder.

http://manuals.harborfreight.com/manuals/61000-61999/61405.PDF - link is broken

Here is a similar lift table:
http://www.northerntool.com/images/downloads/manuals/44497.pdf

My table lever would offer ZERO resistance to raise as instructed below. I did find if I manually lifted the table, it would stop at a mid-height position. Then, with a load added to the table, I was able to pump to full height and bleed as noted below. Now lifts 100%.

From the manual:

REMOVING AIR FROM THE PUMP
If the Lift Table is not performing properly, you may need to bleed the air from the system. There are two
possible scenarios:

(1) The pump is a closed system; after some period of usage, the air would enter into the oil gradually, it
would affect the performance of the lift table. Follow these steps to bleed the air from the oil.

a) Remove any load from the Table.
b) Release the Control Lever, and then repeatedly pump the Foot Pedal to raise the table to its highest
position.
c) Squeeze the Control Lever while pumping the Foot Pedal several times rapidly to lower the lift table,
this should remove the air out of the hydraulic oil.

(2) Changing the hydraulic oil (done every twelve months) can put air into the system. Follow these steps to
change the hydraulic oil:

a) Slightly raise the lift table, tip over Table cart.
b) Carefully remove the rubber fluid plug and drain the used oil from the pump. Then turn the lift table
on its side and fill with hydraulic oil (120 ml max.).
c) Replace the rubber fluid plug (4a) by firmly pressing it into the fluid hole.
d) Raise the table to its highest position; squeeze the control lever to lower the table.
e) Wedge a screw driver or other flat device between the plug and the housing; a “hiss” sound means
the air is bleeding from the hydraulic system.

Thank you so much!

I've had mine a couple years and it still works great. I took it and raised it under the bumper of my truck and stood on it until it bent, no welding or cutting needed!

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I need to do that

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Knight Rider!?

I re-themed a beat firepower 2. Came out pretty decent.

I am still trying to figure out why my table goes down fine with no load but not under load.
Does anyone know if the release valve is meant to release less hydraulic fluid under load?
I'm thinking that if it's the case maybe the problem is there. Chances are I'll be monkeying with the release valve soon.

When it's not serving my pinball hobby...

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Since I want to buy a pinball mover but don't want to start a new thread, which one of these is better? I want the easiest to use that will get my machine high enough for easy unboxing in the future or for future moves.

ebay.com link: Pinball Machine Lift and Moving Dolly Cart

ebay.com link: HEAVY DUTY PINBALL LIFT DOLLY CART MADE IN THE U S A

http://www.pinballlifter.com/

lift and tilt is the way to go if you dont have help or if you have back problems.

Those both look like the same lift, just different prices

Neither of those will really help you for unboxing. The coffin dollies like that work for moving games around on legs and (sometimes) for moving games in/out of a truck/van bed, but are more trouble than its worth to set games up or break them down from ground level. Because they can't get a game LOW to get on or off.

You want a lift table or pinlift setup to get games low enough to tilt them on or off from ground level.

bought one of these a few years ago but never got around to modifying it. Simpy just unscrewed the handle and lay it to the side when I use it.

Anyone looking for one in northern IL area? We're moving out of state so I figure if someone wants it for $100 or so, I'll sell it. otherwise, I'll just have the movers take it with.

These dollies listed on Ebay are the same lift based on specifications.
They are the not the same level of "heavy duty" as original WICO dollies, based on cased framed construction.
WICO dollies last forever, and were the industry standard for decades.

To understand, there are various types of "lift" mechanisms used on pinball machines.
Dolleys, lifts, tables all have similar functionality, but not necessarily designed optimally for pinball use or at least not without modification.

The "Pinball Lifter" is a much cheaper version using a Sears motorcycle jack, generally modified with a wood slat frame for additional height.
http://www.sears.com/craftsman-motorcycle-atv-jack/p-00950190000P
They generally have a good warranty.

Here is another serious dolley, that outperforms WICO and the HFLT.
It is called the "Yellow Jacket" as is an EXCELLENT lift mechanism and ratio of weight.
http://www.pinballmedic.net/yellow_jacket_pinball_dolly.html

Many collectors just build their own.
http://www.biltronix.com/pinball_dolly.html
Its cheap, and easy to construct.
The only reasonable objection is bulk, not weight.

If you want to be "really cheapo", you could just buy a hydraulic car jack, but I don't recommend that direction.
About the only advantage is portability, but you cannot move machines with that device properly.

You do not aggravate back problems, if you use any pinball dolly/pinball lifter/lifting table correctly.
I have back problems from combat, and do not have issues with my WICO which I have used for nearly 30 years.

If a new collector owns more than half a dozen machines, a dolley is not an optional pinball accessory.

Unfortunately WICO and Penguin and Yellow Jacket are NLA.

There have been some awesome lift and tilt solutions custom ordered and built by Bally/Williams back in the day, but they are difficult to find these days

So....

http://www.pinballlifter.com/

Since they have a lift and tilt.

Not the most stable solution I have seen but on level ground, and with care, it seems to work extremely well.

$60 if anyone wants one in northern IL

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/ad/36000

apologize if its out of line to post a link to a marketplace ad, but figured it was relevant to the thread.

That's a heck of a deal for someone in your area. I'm sure someone will snap it up!