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Modified Harbor Freight Lift Table


By wizzardz

6 years ago



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    #601 61 days ago

    Thanks, I need one of these.

    #602 61 days ago
    Quoted from cad-kid:

    Yep p2k's post should be keyed as well.
    Here's a video I made about my experience with this method (worked great for me)

    Agreed... who is responsible for making key posts? To be honest, I saw your video as well before making up my mind... and it was p2k's post along with your video that convinced me that this was the layout that would work best for my situation.

    #603 59 days ago

    Thanks all for this great discussion. I'm going to take the plunge today and go Bimini... I figure if I don't like it or I want to go P2K, I can always mod to that later with a slightly larger black iron pipe from where I cut the original at.

    #604 57 days ago

    Used my cart to load in at comic con yesterday and lost 2 set screws on the handle. I replaced them with #6 metric hex head bolts 3/4". They were 1.29 each at ACE. I was able to really bear down on these and get a great grab on the handle. I don't like the idea of using loctite but I will if these come loose.

    #605 57 days ago
    Quoted from Cheddar:

    Used my cart to load in at comic con yesterday and lost 2 set screws on the handle. I replaced them with #6 metric hex head bolts 3/4". They were 1.29 each at ACE. I was able to really bear down on these and get a great grab on the handle. I don't like the idea of using loctite but I will if these come loose.

    Glad you were able to get things straight again, and hopefully more secure too!

    #606 56 days ago

    So, that was a crazy easy build to mod the handle... But I have another question for the group. Do your wheels suck miserably on carpet? I feel like I was dragging it around without a pin, let alone once I got one lifted up.

    I saw some wheel discussion - anyone have a recommendation to get the existing ones rolling easier or a link for ones to replace with?

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    #607 54 days ago

    Nevermind - I'm an idiot... They move a lot better with the brake off...

    (In my defense, they put the stupid thing on backwards so that on is off and off in on!!)

    #608 52 days ago

    In an ever-ending attempt to improve moving techniques, I have added wing nuts on the bimini mod. I highly recommend them. The cost is about 25 cents for two, and they allow for far easier tightening/loosening on the fly.

    I am also experimenting with fibre washers. I havent decided if they are better or worse than nylon yet, but they seem to be easier to find (at least, they are where I live).
    I will get back with the info.

    #609 50 days ago
    Quoted from Daditude:

    In an ever-ending attempt to improve moving techniques, I have added wing nuts on the bimini mod. I highly recommend them. The cost is about 25 cents for two, and they allow for far easier tightening/loosening on the fly.
    I am also experimenting with fibre washers. I havent decided if they are better or worse than nylon yet, but they seem to be easier to find (at least, they are where I live).
    I will get back with the info.

    I finally took the plunge, and everything went fantastically! I was shocked at somehow there being enough cable length when keeping the 3.5" cut at the base.

    My only issues were using a less than stellar cheap $6 pipe cutter from Harbor Freight, and these little bolts on the caps keep popping out. Anyone used loctite or found a better method?

    #610 50 days ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    I finally took the plunge, and everything went fantastically! I was shocked at somehow there being enough cable length when keeping the 3.5" cut at the base.
    My only issues were using a less than stellar cheap $6 pipe cutter from Harbor Freight, and these little bolts on the caps keep popping out. Anyone used loctite or found a better method?

    You can drill through the caps and bolt them, or a strong epoxy will keep it together.

    I have never had problems with mine, or really heard of many issues. Is the hex nut loosening?

    #611 50 days ago
    Quoted from Daditude:

    You can drill through the caps and bolt them, or a strong epoxy will keep it together.
    I have never had problems with mine, or really heard of many issues. Is the hex nut loosening?

    Yes, those tiny little nuts in the caps keep popping out on me. I got a hex wrench set, but they keep coming loose. Not exactly driving this thing around like s go-kart either.

    Thanks for doing the really solid summarization! I'm really glad people have multiple, with this and the other methods, well documented options.

    #612 50 days ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    Yes, those tiny little nuts in the caps keep popping out on me. I got a hex wrench set, but they keep coming loose. Not exactly driving this thing around like s go-kart either.
    Thanks for doing the really solid summarization! I'm really glad people have multiple, with this and the other methods, well documented options.

    My first thought would be to really wrench them in tight. This is not a common problem with the bimini method, so im not sure if it is just your specific bolts or caps or not.

    Where did you get the bimini caps from? They could just not be good quality. I passed on sone cheaper ones because I didn't want any issues down the line.

    Drilling and bolting certainly is an option. It adds more complexity to it, but it certainly wouldn't cost much.

    As mentioned before, you can also use a glue or epoxy. JB Weld will hold just about anything together. I would use this as a last resort, because it won't come off...ever.

    #613 50 days ago
    Quoted from Daditude:

    My first thought would be to really wrench them in tight. This is not a common problem with the bimini method, so im not sure if it is just your specific bolts or caps or not.
    Where did you get the bimini caps from? They could just not be good quality. I passed on sone cheaper ones because I didn't want any issues down the line.
    Drilling and bolting certainly is an option. It adds more complexity to it, but it certainly wouldn't cost much.
    As mentioned before, you can also use a glue or epoxy. JB Weld will hold just about anything together. I would use this as a last resort, because it won't come off...ever.

    I ordered from Amazon, not the ebay variety.

    I think Cheddar was having these issues too, suggested Loctite. It's not the caps themselves, just the teenie tiny wee screws in the caps.

    #614 50 days ago

    I picked up four grade 8 M6 SHCS as well as nuts and lock washers.

    I decided on a 4.0" cut on the handle and drilled through one side of the handle to allow for the M6 screws / bolts to lock handle shafts into bimini caps.

    My mods are not yet complete, although works fine as is.

    Quoted from wesman:

    I finally took the plunge, and everything went fantastically! I was shocked at somehow there being enough cable length when keeping the 3.5" cut at the base.
    My only issues were using a less than stellar cheap $6 pipe cutter from Harbor Freight, and these little bolts on the caps keep popping out. Anyone used loctite or found a better method?

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    #615 50 days ago
    Quoted from wesman:

    I ordered from Amazon, not the ebay variety.
    I think Cheddar was having these issues too, suggested Loctite. It's not the caps themselves, just the teenie tiny wee screws in the caps.

    I replaced the screws with little bolts. No loctite or drilling. The bolt allowed me to really bear down on them.

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    #616 47 days ago

    Since my original modification here are two other mods I've done:

    1) Added a bend to the handle using a 45 pipe elbow and two 1/2" pipe nipples
    2) Added a plywood swivel top (pivot on a 1/4" bolt in center of table) to allow wider contact with the cabinet sides of older EM's
    It pivots to make the table narrow enough to roll under the pinball game, then swivel the top while under the game.

    Alan

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    #617 42 days ago

    Thanks everyone for the details on this lift/mod. I built it today in preparation for a radcal upgrade on my JJPOTC.

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    #618 42 days ago

    I also want to thank everyone for their input and instructions. I built mine yesterday. Extremely easy!!

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    #619 40 days ago

    I like the Bimini caps. Nice and clean. Here's another mod i did to my HF cart..
    1/2" rod in the handle with a link that allows me to use the handle to actuate the stock foot pedal.
    So not only does the handle fold to get it under the pin but also folds away flat AND as a pump handle with full motion. I don't have to stretch my leg in there with this mod. Sorry i don't know at this time the exact distance I mounted the rod at. But I only drilled the inside of the handle and cut rod longer so it stays inside the handle. The link is adjustable and slides to one side to allow folding away. I don't see you guys talking about changing the front wheels to casters. I did that so it not like pushing a grocery cart backwards. Spins on a dime.

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    #620 39 days ago

    Neat idea

    #621 39 days ago
    Quoted from Wolfus:

    I like the Bimini caps. Nice and clean. Here's another mod i did to my HF cart..
    1/2" rod in the handle with a link that allows me to use the handle to actuate the stock foot pedal.
    So not only does the handle fold to get it under the pin but also folds away flat AND as a pump handle with full motion. I don't have to stretch my leg in there with this mod. Sorry i don't know at this time the exact distance I mounted the rod at. But I only drilled the inside of the handle and cut rod longer so it stays inside the handle. The link is adjustable and slides to one side to allow folding away. I don't see you guys talking about changing the front wheels to casters. I did that so it not like pushing a grocery cart backwards. Spins on a dime.
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    Be curious on what you used for the wheels as I want to do that. Please let us know.
    Mike

    #622 39 days ago

    HF 4" swivel casters. I used my angle grinder to cut off and make smooth the two sets of straight brackets.
    I welded but they can be drilled and bolted on, which is better just more work.

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    #623 36 days ago

    Ouch. Shipping to NJ is now $97 dollars for one of these. After coupon the unit itself is only $137.

    #624 36 days ago
    Quoted from okgrak:

    Ouch. Shipping to NJ is now $97 dollars for one of these. After coupon the unit itself is only $137.

    That is pretty understandable, they are pretty heavy. I wasn't expecting how heavy it was when I bought mine.

    #625 36 days ago
    Quoted from okgrak:

    Ouch. Shipping to NJ is now $97 dollars for one of these. After coupon the unit itself is only $137.

    They weigh 88 lbs...and that does not include and packing/shipping materials.
    $97 actually sounds cheap.

    Are there no harbor freights near you?

    #626 35 days ago
    Quoted from okgrak:

    Ouch. Shipping to NJ is now $97 dollars for one of these. After coupon the unit itself is only $137.

    Where are you in NJ? I have three near me (one only blocks away); two in Bergen County and one in Hudson that I know of.

    You could go to any one of those and certainly save on the shipping.

    #627 28 days ago

    Ok I'll admit that I'm an idiot and lost the two screws that hold the handle into the cart. Can anybody tell me what size / thread / what to get from home depot / lowes to replace them ?

    #628 28 days ago
    Quoted from FelixTCat:

    Ok I'll admit that I'm an idiot and lost the two screws that hold the handle into the cart. Can anybody tell me what size / thread / what to get from home depot / lowes to replace them ?

    Key Post #594 (for reference)

    2 - 1/4"-20 Hex Bolt
    2 - 1/4"-20 Stop Nut
    4 - 1/4" flat washer
    4 - 1/4" flat washer nylon (make sure they are nylon, NOT RUBBER)

    #629 28 days ago

    Bought one today for 137 bucks on my way to pick up a pin near Syracuse. The nearest Canadian equivalent isn't remotely close in price to this table (cheapest one was $400ish). It was my first time in harbor freight, lots of really good deals there, $4 clamps, crazy!

    #630 28 days ago

    I picked up one at Canadian Tire on sale for a bit over $200 CDN.

    Quoted from Geteos:

    Bought one today for 137 bucks on my way to pick up a pin near Syracuse. The nearest Canadian equivalent isn't remotely close in price to this table (cheapest one was $400ish). It was my first time in harbor freight, lots of really good deals there, $4 clamps, crazy!

    #631 28 days ago

    Mine has metric bolts down low, M8x1.25 thread.

    Quoted from FelixTCat:

    Ok I'll admit that I'm an idiot and lost the two screws that hold the handle into the cart. Can anybody tell me what size / thread / what to get from home depot / lowes to replace them ?

    #632 28 days ago
    Quoted from Daditude:

    Key Post #594 (for reference)
    2 - 1/4"-20 Hex Bolt
    2 - 1/4"-20 Stop Nut
    4 - 1/4" flat washer
    4 - 1/4" flat washer nylon (make sure they are nylon, NOT RUBBER)

    Thanks, I'm actually looking for these two bolts that came with the lift table, not the ones for the handle mod.

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    #633 28 days ago
    Quoted from fast_in_muskoka:

    Mine has metric bolts down low, M8x1.25 thread.

    Perfect thank you, I picked up two at lunch and they fit great.

    #634 27 days ago

    Kool, great that I could help.

    Quoted from FelixTCat:

    Perfect thank you, I picked up two at lunch and they fit great.

    #635 27 days ago
    Quoted from fast_in_muskoka:

    I picked up one at Canadian Tire on sale for a bit over $200 CDN.

    Doh! I didn’t see it down to that price at CT or princess auto. Oh well, the HF came out around $200 CDN with exchange and taxes at the end. The main thing is I have one now lol.

    #636 27 days ago

    For the canucks, the red motomaster lift table goes on sale for 187 regularly at crappy tire. It says it’s rated for 330lbs but you get the 500lb one in the box

    #637 24 days ago

    https://www.harborfreight.com/# There's a 20% off coupon good this weekend only. I have a couple of machines coming (if all goes well) in the next few weeks - I think I'll follow the great advice from you all and pick one up! I'm getting older - schlepping a couple of machines around isn't as easy as it used to be....

    #638 24 days ago
    Quoted from homegameroom:

    https://www.harborfreight.com/# There's a 20% off coupon good this weekend only. I have a couple of machines coming (if all goes well) in the next few weeks - I think I'll follow the great advice from you all and pick one up! I'm getting older - schlepping a couple of machines around isn't as easy as it used to be....

    I've had mind for about 18 months now. First time I used it to bring a pin from detached garage to house (30' thru grass) I knew I made a good investment. I did it by myself and with legs and head on a EM machine. Then I started buying more.

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    #639 21 days ago

    pinball lift lift yeah pinball lift yeah yeah yeah bimini caps yeah lift yeah lift pinbll

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    So like... I'm a little paranoid - Do I use this to lift directly against the bottom plywood in the game or should I get some 2x4's for it and have it lift by the cabinet edges? Also I need to lift from as far back on the game as possible right? Cause it seems unstable otherwise, like the game wants to lean backwards. It's picking up the front legs first and I am expecting it to lift it uniformly.

    #640 21 days ago
    Quoted from alexmogil:

    pinball lift lift yeah pinball lift yeah yeah yeah bimini caps yeah lift yeah lift pinbll
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    So like... I'm a little paranoid - Do I use this to lift directly against the bottom plywood in the game or should I get some 2x4's for it and have it lift by the cabinet edges? Also I need to lift from as far back on the game as possible right? Cause it seems unstable otherwise, like the game wants to lean backwards. It's picking up the front legs first and I am expecting it to lift it uniformly.

    2×4s are not necessary. In fact, I would not recommend them. The table is gentler (larger, wider dispersed contact area).

    You have to find the center of gravity. It will depend on the weight of the cab, the headbox, and whether or not you are moving it with the headbox up or down. You typically have to put it further back underneath the cab (which is mostly why it needs the handle modified in the first place).

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    #641 10 days ago

    I have one of these tables but the whole hydro-jack part is missing. I cannot seem to find anywhere that they sell parts at all. Has anyone had any luck finding parts for these carts?

    Thanks
    -Jim

    #642 10 days ago

    fairly certain the whole deal comes from china, so individual parts purchased here might cost more than an entire new unit

    Quoted from jim5six:

    I have one of these tables but the whole hydro-jack part is missing. I cannot seem to find anywhere that they sell parts at all. Has anyone had any luck finding parts for these carts?
    Thanks
    -Jim

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