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Modern Pin Power Consumption Resting

By mcbPalisade

5 years ago


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#5 5 years ago

MMr draws less current than does MM because it has a switching power supply rather than a giant transformer (and it's associated losses), so standby on a MMr is probably 130w (there is a thread were somebody measured it when it first came out, 130w seems to stick in my brain).

Don't have them turn on and off every time someone walks by. Thermal cycling is worse than just leaving the game on.

What you can do it use a $10 WiFi plug and simply program a power-on schedule from your phone.

You can, of course, change this schedule for seasonal hours from anywhere in the world.

Because the plugs read the current draw, you can actually read when someone is playing the game, or if someone has turned the game completely off.
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#7 5 years ago
Quoted from MrBally:

Are you sure aboot the 10¢/KwH for a commercial customer of the power company?

Commercial electricity rates in Colorado average 9.39¢/kWh (says the google)

#10 5 years ago
Quoted from mcbPalisade:

I understand these are easily hackable. I have 3 older ones that I never plugged in for this reason.

Obviously, you only put these on the "Guest Network" of your home.

Just like when friends come over and want to use your WiFi, you only allow them on the Guest Network - you don't give them access to your other devices or your NAS filled with tentacle porn.

The Hotel is going to do the same thing, they are only going to give you the Guest Network login - they are not stupid.

Quoted from mcbPalisade:

I see they have a button - anyone on site can override whatever state the plug is in?

If someone DOES climb under the game to override the "off state" and presses the button, they must REALLY want to play the game, right?

If the janitorial staff overrides the button because they want to play the game at 4am, that's cool with you I assume?

The next scheduled time program will put the game back in it's normal state. If the game is already ON at 6am, it will remain on. If the game is OFF at 6am, it will turn on.

Quoted from mcbPalisade:

Are you notified?

You can be if you want to be.

If you see tons of late night usage, you might just want to extend the On Time so the night staff is encouraged to play.

#11 5 years ago
Quoted from MrBally:

Michigan, Consumers Energy Commercial rate is 12.7¢ kWh in the Summer and aboot 10¢ during the other three seasons.

Sempra (Southern California/SDG&E) is 13.7¢ kWh year round for commercial accounts. Plus the monthly $16-75 "service fee".

Billboard commercial accounts pay a cheaper service fee.

Yeah, just like the sales tax, some states 0% some states 9%....

#14 5 years ago
Quoted from mcbPalisade:

How did you know what kind of porn I prefer? ( - :

Everyone from CO likes the same porn.

Quoted from mcbPalisade:

Any hints on how to better sell this idea to a faceless set of shareholders would be appreciated.

The shareholders don't care about the electrical costs, they only care about how many more people will these games bring through the door.

They don't care how many watts the popcorn machine consumes, they only care that free salty popcorn almost doubles the amount of drinks served.

They don't care how many watts the beverage vending machines consume (many are running on floors that are seldom even booked), they only care that they earn them a quarterly check.

They are going to want to know that you are fully insured, have secured the proper license tags from the city/county/state and that you have a "full service team" that will only service the game during morning or early afternoon hours. Bars DO NOT want you emptying or servicing games in the evenings.

Remember also, that if there are cranes, jukeboxes, dart boards or pool tables already installed, you won't be able to bring in your pins, because another op already has all the coin-op for that location locked up.

#16 5 years ago
Quoted from mcbPalisade:

and mention pinballmap.com as a way to steer people to their Pub.

See if you can get a local league to agree to a night there 2x a month as a trial.

If the pub manager sees a sizeable bump, he'll report that to the shirts above him.

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