Can we get John worked into the artwork? Maybe hanging out at a bar pounding back the beer, 8 empty glasses next to him?

Anyone else pumped for the debut machine from a new rules designer?

ZMeny should have Coach Ice co-host an episode of The Pinball Show and discuss his design philosophy (Moment maker or score chaser?), influences (A Dwight, Lonnie, or Lyman acolyte, or a visionary for which there is no precedent?), and overall development approach/process.

It will be the first pinball machine literally designed on bar napkins.

Hey now, Steve Ritchie allegedly drew Flash on an airplane cocktail menu. Sold nearly 20k

Sure but GWJ is no Steve Ritchie.

I usually donate but most people know about the personal bankruptcy & other financial burdens from winding down my past pinball business. Along with my early retirement after health issues from working 6 days a week for the city. Still have some health problems but I feel way better now. Getting in & out of a F-250 for 10 years was brutal. My right hip is better, likely need surgery, & might need surgery on my other foot (left). Lost some feeling in my right foot after surgery. Taking it easy tonight after my morning spill.

I will meet with a new cnc contractor for the cabinet in the fall.

I would think those would be from me & the local programmer people here still have not named so far. Many breadcrumbs for a trail have been thrown out there.

Update @zmeny. Please see above.

I'm curious about this as woodworking is my main passion. Baltic birch is birch, with a birch veneer. It is 5 x 5 sheets as opposed to 'standard' 4x8. If I need maple or mahogany or walnut or any other veneer, I buy veneer core plywood with the desired veneer. Maple (veneer core) 4x8 runs me about $90/sheet while Baltic Birch is a touch more; however, 5x5, so price per sq/ft is a lot more. So are you getting baltic birch or maple (veneer core)? Just curious if you misspoke or if they have some odd (to me) 5x5 maple ply available in Canada?

Am I correct in recalling that fellow Canadian upstart Pinball Adventures is also all about baltic birch?

https://robertbury.com/

I tried talking about wood at Pintastic seminar & that did not go well. 4 x 8 sheets in half inch with thin maple ply both sides, no voids or boat tails inserts. Looking to see where a thicker hard maple veneer can be installed on top from Canada. Very expensive plywood but have used it in the past for my playfield productions.

John saying who his contractors are really devalues what he has to bring to the table as primary contractor.

This is a show not tell industry these days.

To those questioning what John brings to the table, don't forget that a) this entire fever dream was his idea and b) his guerilla marketing it is what hooked daddy big bucks to (hopefully) make it a reality.

pulling out all the stops to create awareness for his project among halifax locals, 'GWJ and the Boys' rehearse for an upcoming fundraiser.

A “pinball artist” will charge you YOUR WHOLE BUDGET just for the art package for this pin.

It’s a shit load of work. People don’t know how time consuming it is.

rd

that episode of tpf could also interview GWJ and find out what The Plan is and whether GWJ is really on track, as claimed. Also how does the plan sound? That show would get a bunch of listens and call-ins too.

Imagining Ice and GWJ each on dueling couches in therapy over zoom with their Guide and Doctor, Zach. Dennis K is an online Confidant who keeps things real and serves up tough love and biting criticism when needed. Have you lost your minds, gentlemen?

Yeah, but think about the exposure they will get!
The artist should really have to pay to be associated with this career making masterpiece.

It could be a career ender.

rd

artists will be slaughtering one another in the streets for the sweet exposure coming their way from this project.

Yup it's 10-20k easily for anyone worth a damn. Unless you find someone who LOOOOOVES the theme and works super cheap... haha good luck with this theme.

Plus any license, even Trailer Park Boys, would have been 20k down + $30-$80 per unit + oh wait you're not selling enough to make this worth our time CLICK goes the phone.

I am sure a lot of things will change over the course of this phantom project, sans realistic - timeline, budget nor plan. Why up to a day ago, nobody knew the programmer. The programmer wished to do it and he was #1 person on earth to learn about it. I was the #2 person on earth to learn it, after following the beer bottle trail and making a wag. That chapter of the story was breaking in front of your eyes. And it was reported HERE first. We scooped Kaneda, Knapp’s Arcade, TWIP and Craig Bobbie. Snooze you lose, fellas.

The story continues … GWJ was the #3 person on earth to learn of the programmer. That’s right, he sobered up one day and said he’d be using the crazy bastard for programming, after all. So what will the prolog to this feel good story bring? I got nothing.

Wait, serious question: who is the programmer?

Who even knows what it means? It’s day old news and subject to change. We learn earlier AH was a triple-fister with beer. As for applicable experience and programming skills? :yawn I’m sure there are many other local programming resources willing to work for free exposure.

Best options for the project? I have a couple in mind and a few outside of pinball.

Someone who won’t charge you $10,000 and take your whole budget.

rd

Big help Rd,

Anyone else want to chime in here or send me a pm?

The budget never made any sense whatsoever. The notion that one custom machine can be done for 10k is ludicrous. The only reason it has even gotten this far is that the designer is working for free and gave the project a free design. How can custom work be completed for under 10k unless everyone is working for free. So my advice is similar to rd. Find someone who will basically work for free. Maybe an art student who needs a school project?

https://finearts.utexas.edu/

Yep, that’s the answer.

If you want to stick to your $10k budget.

By the time you buy all the running gear (at full retail, posting every item individually to Canada..) and playfield, cabinet, etc etc, that’s half your $10k gone already.

Doesn’t leave much left for anything else.

The problem with a student - you’ll have to teach them “pinball” and you only have a month or two to do it.

rd

Some good ideas via Pm, thx guys!

The “budget” is just a starting point. Who knows where it will end up.

We are living in the future. Why deal with expensive humans when you can have free AI do the work for you?

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Attempting this with DALL·E 2

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Heaven help this project if it costs me my DALL·E 2 access.

Attempt #2: Same prompt, minus 'redneck'

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Attempt #3: Apparently even this A.I. is not yet intelligent enough to understand jpop's magic

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DALL·E 2022-08-24 20.58.03 - a bunch of cowboys sitting at a bar and drinking cheap canadian beer, in the style of john popadiuk

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Add "purple" to prompt.

Dude - don’t sink more than $10k into this.

$10k - hard limit.

Not one dollar more.

With a lot of hard work and some help from my friends, I built this for like $2000 US bucks.

And it’s awesome!!

rd
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Still do not know what you guys are talking about who the programmer is. Just another day in the week before the build gets started.

More basic parts ordered from Pinball Life

So you didn't donate to Pinside because all of these reasons? Couldn't you just skip a day or two of drinking...seems like that would cover it.

There's a podcast with some pie crust or burnt toast in it. Its a bit over 2 hours long I'm told, and none of us want to spend that much time to listen for the programmers name or the surrounding conversation.

If someone can post a link to the correct podcast, I'm willing to Time Share some listening energy.

If we can get 4 people to agree to 30 minutes segments, we could divide them and knock it our fairly quickly. I'll take minutes 0-30, someone else can take minutes 30-60, then 60-90 and finally someone at 90-120. And if only one person agrees and you guys want to punish me, I'll do the first hour and they can do the last.

Any podcast over an hour I tend to skip entirely and it boggles my mind why more of them don't understand that.

I'm kinda embarrassed to make this suggestion but my attention span is only about 15 minutes for such things. And its even less with podcasters who prattle on about their personal lives, subliminal advertisements or whatever off-road stream of consciousness they get stuck in.

what's the podcast? You can just dump it on some websites that will generate a transcript. Then CTRL + F a bit

Fantastic if you can do that.
I don't know what the podcast is. GWJ just says its out there with guest Orbital Albert and it has a high carb desert in it.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLmxpYnN5bi5jb20vMTczMTA4L3Jzcw/episode/NTFlM2EwZmUtOTJjOC00ODE1LTllMmQtNjJhYzA3ZjU1NWJm?sa=X&ved=0CAYQkfYCahcKEwio9rDdi-L5AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAQ&hl=en-CA
35:56 start unless you want to hear some Kaneda news 35:00

Even reading the transcript was a slog. Orbital was on board if it was TPB and would have worked on it. Now it's not, so he's out. Not sure what I was supposed to learn from that.

There is the breadcrumb in that podcast, the person is named, & it was never going to be Orbital Albert. People know I do not do weed, just like to drink beer.

Ugh. I listened and didn't find any breadcrumbs, only a coffee promo at the end.

Should I go back and instead look for dust bunnies?

Ben I did not even get a phone call. Just the C & D to not contact them again or the boys.

I got John to cave a little. Here is the Trailer Trash programmer.
Thanks John.

https://www.ifpapinball.com/player.php?p=22228

Awesome. Best of luck to him.

Yeah, I also tried dalle2 and got the same content use warning for the term "redneck". At first I thought it was for"Canadian" beer ha. Man even AI is super sensitive these days.