Copycat is awesome! But yeah, death to Roonie.

So much hand-wringing over trim color. For me, nothing could possibly look better on MM than stainless steel. I'll wait for a standard MMR, thanks.

I wish PPS would say, "we've wasted too much time on trim already. We changed our mind: everything stainless. If you want another color, go nuts. If you want to cancel your order over trim color, feel free." How many people would cancel? And how many would be in line to fill those spots?

If I was a manufacturer, after seeing Stern's quality issues with chrome and colored powdercoat over the last few years, I wouldn't want to deal with customer complaints and replacing cosmetic hardware under warranty. Pinball trim quality wasn't an issue for the better part of a century. Modern collectors created a problem where one didn't exist by convincing manufacturers that commercial hardware needs to look like Skittles.

I'm part of the problem here, and I do own a game with custom aftermarket trim. I just wish everything would ship basic black or stainless, and let us nutjobs take over from there.

Are there any LE upgrades that aren't just cosmetic? I'm not being snarky, I honestly don't know.

Thanks for the info. I dislike shaker motors in most games, and don't care very much about color DMDs. I'm happy to wait for a standard MMR, and let all the bugs get worked out in the LE.

Pretty sure I can't prevent anyone from enjoying their MMRLE. Thanks for the thumbs down and winky face, though.

Color mismatches, chipping. Things that no one called 1-800-KICKERS to gripe about when everything was black. Granted, nothing remotely as bad as the terrible Tron LE chrome.

My point is that once collectors started chroming and candy coating their own games, manufacturers (correctly) assumed that's what we want, started doing it, then realized what a hassle it is to get it right on a large scale. Look no further than Rick's posts in this thread.

It seems like gold is more is difficult to pull off than typical colored powdercoat. I don't envy anyone trying to please 1,000 persnickety collectors.

Everyone dropping $8k on an MMR or MMRLE wants to play MM. I'm going to be one of them, and I'll be wowed when I open that box. If special hardware was never mentioned, do you think people would have said, "$8k Medieval Madness? Pshh, get back to me when it's gold."

Bling certainly is shiny and pretty. But it's not why people are lining up to spend $8k for MMR, and it appears to be a hassle for the manufacturer. An unnecessary hassle, in my opinion.

Don't they all have LEDs?

My question remains: if MMR (or MMRLE) was only available in stainless, would that prevent you from ordering one?

Lucky you! I'm talking about from the manufacturer's perspective, though.

Yeah, the benefits of selling $7k games to bling-hungry collectors definitely outweigh the negatives.

Powdercoat isn't too bad, but Stern's chrome was bad enough that they stopped it cold turkey after Tron LE. Couldn't have been cheap to send me (and who knows how many other people) replacement rails.

I like options! I'm glad stainless is an option. What I'm saying is, the vast majority of potential MMR buyers would still want the game even if there weren't hardware options. They could sell a thousand MMRLEs in pink powdercoat if that was the only option.

Skyrocket? A year ago I'd have to pay five figures for a decent MM. Now I can get one NIB for $8k!

That doesn't answer my question, but thanks for playing.

Indeed. But if you were PPS and could sell 1,000 MMRLEs in an hour, either dealing with powdercoat issues or not, which would you choose?

Because gold is a pain in the ass if you want it to be durable and look anything like gold.

Yes! I'm happy he's offering black. I'm happy he's offering stainless on standards. The only thing that could make me unhappy with regard to MMR at this point is if it somehow doesn't pan out, or if I can't afford one.