Has anyone asked for and received a refund recently? I Asked Jack G about a refund and he said maybe if my spot sells (I'm paraphrasing). That was mid summer. I have emailed twice since then and haven't heard anything. I am curious to see if anyone has received a refund on their deposit in the last 90 days. The reason why I'm trying to get a refund is 3 fold: 1) I'm downsizing my collection in anticipation of relocating south in 3 years, 2) the industry (pharma) that I am in has had massive downsizing recently & 3) with all the new manufactures sooner or later someone will go belly up before all the games are delivered. It's only a grand but I am still interested in a refund. Thoughts?

His exacts words were "if I can sell your game I can give you a refund." I don't know if he is actively trying to sell my spot.

As a law school dropout I don't know that deposits EVER become non refundable. I didn't pay $1000 for the consideration of purchasing an MMR. I didn't pay $1000 for the option to purchase at a later date. I paid $1000 towards the purchase of an $8000 MMR. The question is does Jack G owe a refund IF he has incurred expenses based upon my $1000 deposit. He could argue that if he refunds my deposit that he is hurt financially because of it; that argument is only valid if he fails to sell another game. If he has sold one single game (or taken a deposit on a game) since the moment that he received my email requesting a refund then I am entitled to a refund. For example let's say thru June 30th he has sold 50 games. On July 1st I ask for a refund. If at anytime AFTER my refund request he were to receive an order for a 51st game then he hasn't been hurt my my refund request. To my lawyer friends, is my reasoning sound?

Another pinsider emailed asking "what's in it for Jack to offer a refund?" Only his reputation. JJ has gone on record here as saying he is refunding deposits for MMR. Coincidently I bought my IM VE from him and IF I buy NIB again I will make him my first call. Would I ever consider buying from Jack? Not if he keeps my deposit. I have purchased Wolverine, Tron, Avatar, IM VE & STLE all NIB and I have yet to find a dealer who seems to want my repeat business although JJ is probably there.

So, to get back on point, has anyone placed a deposit with Jack G since July 7th? If they have then I would like to reach out to Jack G and request my refund. Thanks.

Great post! Does the politician care to address my initial question? Should refunds be provided?

The locked in date doesn't apply in a court of law. If the game is sold out AND there is a waiting list then there is no loss to the MMR people if refunds were issued. For example I could sign away my first born; that act doesn't mean that I need to turn over my oldest. A parking garage can put up a tiny sign saying they aren't resoonsible for theft then use that sign as a get out of jail free card when their employee steals from parked cars. I didn't agree to any terms with MMR. I sent a $1000 check as a down payment. That's it. No contract and no terms. Obviously filing suit against MMR is borderline unrealistic. Perhaps a class action could be filed but that still seems extreme. I (we) are giving guys like Rick and Jack the chance to do the right thing. The honorable thing. Unless they can show cause on there end that a refund would be harmful to them then refunds should be offered to those who ask. They are on record as saying the game is sold out with a waiting list; no harm would come to them if they issue refunds. I have emailed and heard nothing. Again will the powers that be involved with MMR issue a refund of my $1000? Jack? Rick? Do any of these people have honor? Do they operate within the same rules that they expect the rest of us to operate under?

No I haven't. Jack G hasn't responded to my last two emails. I hate airing dirty laundry in public but short of hiring an attorney I have little recourse. I plan to send another one after I respond here.

I did email and I heard back minutes ago. He said (more or less) that I would get a refund. I will post when it arrives.

The email suggested payment will come and I am taking it in good faith; I would say thanksgiving is a reasonable amount of time for this to happen. That's almost 5 weeks. I will post when I do receive my refund.

As of today I haven't heard anything nor have I received a refund check. I am still taking Jack G at his word that a refund is in the works. It's ironic that the game I ordered AFTER MMR (IM VE) was ordered from JJ who has gone on record saying he is refunding money even though it may end up coming out of his pocket... If i do order a pin in the future it appears JJ will be the first person that I reach out to. I will post here when the refund arrives AND I will continue to post if it doesn't.
Ed

Refund received today!

I have no idea what you mean.

Ahhhh.