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Ordered my LE with Game exchange pretty early Friday. Lots of friends who ordered with Pinball Sales after I ordered have gotten several updates confirming they have an LE. I'm still waiting to get confirmation? I know it must be chaos! JJ with game exchange has been a stand-up guy and that's why I went with him. Guess I just gotta keep waiting.
Quoted from ChadNC:Ordered my LE with Game exchange pretty early Friday. Lots of friends who ordered with Pinball Sales after I ordered have gotten several updates confirming they have an LE. I'm still waiting to get confirmation? I know it must be chaos! JJ with game exchange has been a stand-up guy and that's why I went with him. Guess I just gotta keep waiting.
Still Sweatin' but got faith
Anyone else order from Gameexchange? I put a deposit down on an LE last Friday and its still uncertain if there getting any? They sent me a message saying there working with PP and Chicago Gaming but still don't have a 100% confirmation.
Quoted from fosaisu:Game Exchange posted this a few hours ago in this thread (answering Q re: their allotment of LEs):
Sweet!
Quoted from PPS:We are pretty much thru our initial order handling (and sleepless nights) collecting everything, figuring out duplicates, non-reponse customers, etc - this is for PPS allocated games. We are then going thru additional lists that are on the our 'waiting list' for LE or 'upgrade list' for LE, which will be happening as well.
One thing that I have had reports is of people having deposits taken (and charged) when that seller may not have LE's allocated) - this would be from legitimate game sellers who were not listed on the original distributor list - perhaps thru miscommunication, etc.
If anyone is in that situation, let me know and we can put you on yet another list and see if we can help address - again, this would be ONLY for people who have a recorded transaction with someone that is not on the distributor list that I released, which I believe is complete for who was allocated LE's. We are not in the business of stealing customers ... we are trying to find anyone who could receive an unwelcome "we're sorry, but what we promised you we really do not have" surprise.
contact me at [email protected] and can we please not discuss it here.
thanks,
rick
Class Act...
Quoted from ulmpharmd:How much more is brass than gold plating? Just wondering...
Never seen any pinball gold plated. It's all brass plated that I know of.
As far as brass over gold powdercoat theres no question Brass is better.
Gold powdercoat looks like crap. I'm just not a fan. I know Back alley does it and I like everything he does but that.
Quoted from jackal2001:http://www.greatamericanpinball.com/product_detail.asp?productId=169&categoryId=44&returnPage=%2Fproducts%2Easp%3Fpage%3D2%26categoryId%3D44
Vs.
http://www.greatamericanpinball.com/product_detail.asp?productId=149&categoryId=44&returnPage=%2Fproducts%2Easp%3Fpage%3D2%26categoryId%3D44
Yep ones powder and the other one is brass. I definitely like the Brass better
Quoted from pinmister:The Iron Man does look sweet. One thing I did notice is the dimples on lock bar are magnified because of sheen on coating. I have a powder coated bar on one of my machines with same issue, you can really see the dimples. I wonder if there is a way to not have dimples on the bar, whether brass or powder?
Yep. Pinball life sells their lockdowns in 2 pieces. So after u powdercoat or plate you just use gorilla glue and a couple of C clamps. It works fantastic and the look is slick!
Quoted from pinmister:I am scratching my head right now? I am guessing you use glue to fill in divet spot welding spots on lift bar? Then plate or powder. I am confused? What is the process for removing dimples on lift bar, so it does not look so bad when plated or powdered?
It's ok, the lockdown that pinball life sells is in two pieces so its never been spot welded and therefore doesn't have the dimples. You powder or plate the pieces apart. Then once the powder or plating is applied you use gorilla glue and a couple c clamps to fasten it. It works extremely well and has a fantastic clean look.
Quoted from HOOKED:Seems we have a consensus brewing Rick .....and yes I am available for consultant purposes
Sorry hooked. You gotta go back a few pages where I said I was gonna do this: Ha
Seriously I think it looks good and that's why I would do it aftermarket.
BTW Chris's work is rediculous
Quoted from PPS:We will have more discussion in the next couple of weeks on the plating, and will discuss with Chicago Gaming as to where they are with the gold as well as have sent them the pictures of the chrome black one as well. So when we get a reading as to what can be done without overcomplicating things I will report back ...
Just in case you didn't know Rick the pics of the Black Chrome i posted were from HEP. I've seen others do it as well and i was planning on doing mine after the fact. But if its cost effective for you guys to do it upfront or with an upcharge im in.
Quoted from dendoc:Yikes only 21 days to go to get approval! Come on WMS - let em build it.
The way i read Ricks message is that Wms has approved it.
Hi Rick.. I was wondering can you opt for a Wms translite for an upcharge and not get the PPS one? Or would you just have to buy it seperate? Also I guess flipper bats although that doesn't concern me. Thanks for the input. Also its great that you looked into the black chrome/nickel. Its kinda like the difference in Hot Blueing a gun and cold Blueing. Its gotta be done right.
Quoted from littlecammi:I'm pretty sure PPS can't ship any MMRs with WMS logos. But what you do after delivery is up to you.
My BBB says Capcom on it, but I still would have bought it if it said Illinois Pinball instead. It still would be BBB and logos don't affect gameplay. I'm fine with PPS logos on the MMRLE I have on order.
Ok. I didn't say that I minded the PPS logo, I just prefer the Wms one.What I was asking is if they could send /offer the Wms translite with an upcharge. After all they own the rights. I know as apart of the agreement they can't have the logo on the pin however im not sure if it would be a big deal if they threw a translite tube in the box for shipping purposes seeing as they sell them!
Another idea and a question would be could you add a color DMD? Again stuff that they sell anyway.
Quoted from jalpert:Here it is, $139:
http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=PP&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PPA-31-1357-50059
Just buy it if you want it, it doesn't have to come with your game. We don't need another add on or option for a translite that can't come with the game and most people won't want.
My fault for posting here. I should have just emailed Rick. I know there available. Was just hoping/ asking to maybe get the WMs translite and not the other one. No big deal.
Quoted from pezpunk:yes it's completely oddball to flip out if the LEDs don't look exactly like incandescents. PPS has to make a machine that will appeal to all its buyers, most of whom consider LEDs an upgrade over incandescents. they've already said they're using warm white LEDs, but apparently that's not enough for this guy -- he needs them to be dim, and fade in and out too.
I don't think the guy flipped out...Oddball preference? Wanting a pin thats close to the original? I respect your opinion but it wasn't that long ago that people putting LEDs in pins was oddball. You said most people consider LEDs an upgrade? Maybe the people who have gotten into pinball the last 2-3 years feel that way, maybe more? To me its simply a preference not an upgrade.. Just like toppers their just a preference not an upgrade.Everyone doesn't like them. Myself i like both. I myself think on a lot of the older pins that incandescent is the only way to go. A lot of my pins have incandescents in the GI and LEDs in the inserts. I like the ability to have that. Hopefully they can use technology so that the lights will slowly dim and brighten.
Quoted from vid1900:It still is on RGP.
They laugh at your LEDs and aftermarket toppers.
Exactly
Quoted from pezpunk:MMRLE is designed for LEDs....
But not MM and thats the dilemma. Some pins just look better with one or the other.. Take Pinball Magic. It is better with Incandescent. Now ACDC is better with LEDs.
You mentioned all pins were built with LEDs now. That's only this last year that that's been happening.
I get what the guy is saying. If you've been playing MM for 15,16 years without LEDs and don't want to change it sucks to spend 8000.00 on it. Some people have said they won't buy an LE w/o Brass plated armor. It can't be gold tone. The lighting is much more essiential to "purists"
Quoted from Aurich:Isn't RGP without Frank just complaints about how much Pinside sucks?
Ha.. I'll say this about RGP, I've rarely put a tech question up that hasn't been answered.
Quoted from PPS:that has been covered both on our pps site blog as well as here on the forum. The deposit will become refundable when there is sufficient exposure of the game and other things (like trim option). we will also be giving notice, so this should all be good news as we moving out the date to production - honestly there is confidence that if anyone cancels someone will fill their spot so we are pushing that as far as we can to obviously insure that there is enough for everone to know the game beyond what we have already published. We will make them non-refundable when we have all of this covered, so the longer the better I would think from your perspective ...
Hey Rick can you PM or email me. I've sent emails for a week requesting a refund on my deposit. I haven't gotten a response. I appreciate the process and know your busy but if you could communicate it would be great. Thx
Quoted from LTG:Rick has posted his phone number. Find it, give him a call.
LTG : )™
Man I looked through all the pages and then emailed him directly. If someone has it let me know.
Quoted from PPS:Chad ... I had replied, and then I saw another half dozen emails just now ... your check was sent ... sorry guys sometimes it takes a couple of days there is alot going on ... no need to panic, not going anywhere!
rick
Thanks. Not panicking. I never received a reply. You always had a quick turnaround on communication previously. I wanna say I'm still thankful your doing this and look forward to following the project and the next title!
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