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Mine has the "faded" ink in the white inserts for the Kings men inserts too. You can't really read it too well when it's lit up and the ink is translucent when the insert light is off. It's like they were running out of black ink when they printed. It doesn't bother me too much, but it's definitely there.
Edit: I'm number 300 and got it just before New Years.
Quoted from Pin-Muncher:Nothing surprises me these days with manufacturing, bet the ink jet printer was on its last dregs of the black ..... Seriously though I've seen plenty of screening mistakes on Bally/Williams games so not surprised really, I'm guessing that this is more of an issue in a dark games room, the factory will be very well lit so maybe nobody has noticed, still sucks big time if it's not as you had expected and is bothering you
Strangely it's just those inserts though...everywhere else is ok. Those inserts are a slightly different style, so maybe it has something to do with that?
I actually looked closer tonight and it's all inserts that just have the black ink lettering and nothing else. There are some inserts that have white outlines on the lettering (blue inserts for example) and those look fine. The fade is most noticeable on the castle inserts because the font is smaller and thus harder to read to begin with and the inserts are white and have a crosshatch texture. Translucent ink and bright white light combines with the small font, white inserts, and crosshatching to make it really wash out. It's not a big deal...you don't read the inserts while playing.
Quoted from stangbat:I'd say my game is fine and doesn't look washed out. I'll take a closer look today when I'm at my location, but I've glanced at it a few times after this thread and thought it must be a batch issue because I can read them on my game. My game was delivered in April 2015 so it was an early model.
Oh I can read them, don't get me wrong...they are just very difficult to read when lit up. Look at your blue inserts and then look at the castle inserts to compare.
Quoted from IndianaPwns:Pictures are hard to judge by because of exposure variations/angles...etc.
In comparison to the other black text in inserts (like the castle crusher and joust champion inserts) they are noticeably faded/transparent.
No update from CGC as of yet.
That's because those inserts have white outlines and thus have been "inked" twice. They are not as translucent because of that.
Quoted from Concretehardt:Here is a picture of my original Keller restored MM for comparison
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That looks beautiful...Ill take a couple pics of mine in a minute. Is that light bleeding through on the sides of the Francois De Grim insert?
Quoted from Starscream:I also noticed this on the MMr we had in the shop at Rockland Pinball a few weeks back,
I don't think too many people have the original sitting right next to it to compare to (we did)
I wouldn't say its a huge deal but on a few of the inserts I noticed the black screened ink being washed out, Not just the Kings men's names, and it can't be put down to LED's because on that day we had 2 more original MM in the shop, One with LED's and one without,
Having said that I still feel the quality of MMr is incredible, Its only if you have a chance to see a nice original next to it is when you would get picky, I also noticed the resolution and color of the decals on the cab was slightly different again with the original being clearer, and also same goes for the backglass,
But, If I didn't have a beautiful original MM I would most def place an order for the MMr
Cab art I agree...clearer slightly on screened original. The translight though looks the same (actually, I thought MMr showed MORE detail and looked better because it lights up better). The apron is way better on the original. The screened art there kills the decals on MMr, although the metal LE plaque on MMr is really nice.
When the colorization for MMr comes out it will put it over the top.
Quoted from Nveld:292 in early August as well and printing is definitely darker.image_(resized).jpeg
Definitely.
Quoted from 85Txaggie:I have opened a ticket as well on my MMR for the thin ink on the inserts.
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Ditto
Quoted from mtdouble:This photo is from their own website, http://www.chicago-gaming.com/mmr.php
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Their left troll flap is twisted like mine. Originals were like that too. Is everyone else's?
Quoted from indypinhead:That's not a good example to use....the extra ball text has a red print border. The black text on most of the inserts don't have a border.
The extra ball has white ink under the black, like the blue inserts and jackpot inserts. That's why they look better.
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