Ok I’m updated. Will check out that battery holder.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/mmr-owners-club-all-things-mmr-discussed/page/122#post-5661848

Just waiting on my HD Color chip to arrive, will be interesting to see what version software update comes with it. My LE is still on version 1.00, I have only just bought it and it wasn’t used hardly at all with only 50 plays on it. Also got the box.
Are people without the latest hardware updates installing the latest software update 3.00 I think with the topper, XL display/speaker and GI updates? Can this be used if you don’t have these additions? Think this one has the sub control is why I ask which could be handy.

HD Color chip is just a long integrated circuit your swap with one under the playfield. It doesn't have a software update so to speak.

Did you check the first page of the CGC menu ? ( page 1-10 in the manual or

)

If you want them to work. I'd put in the newest update.

Yes.

LTG : )

When I got my color chip it came with a chip puller and a version 2.02 code update taped to the inside of the plastic container.

Cool thanks guys

Does the Mantis MErlin protector cause rejects?

The Cliffy protector does not....mine is money almost everytime

I have both the Cliffy and Mantis installed and the Merlin works fine.

I also have cliffy and Mantis and all works great.

my dealer built in the 4pc Mantis protector set incl. Merlin hole. I had to remove the Mantis merlin protector in my MMRRE cause of many problems (e.g. kicker got stuck).
there are some comments earlier about this hole protector

Did you have to do something additional work for the Mantis protector to get it to fit? I can fit it just fine for MM, just not for MMR.

To clarify, I only have the cliffy on the Merlin hole.

Look what I just dragged in from the porch.

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Sweet! Please upload pics of the RBG playfield kit uninstalled if you can.

You got some work to do Sir!

I'll unbox them here some point. Not sure when I will get around to installing them.

I believe I used a Dremel tool to thin the Mantis protector. Trial and error trimming the thickness got it just right.

Welcome to the upgrade party pal!

It’s probably a 6 hour job if you’re organized and efficient and everything goes well. It was more like a 10 hour job for us, hahaha.

This is why I am keeping my day job. I never know how long things going to take when I crack open my game. Clean this, check that and the O'shit what
came unplugged or disconnected in the process.

My HD color chip and Mantis kit should be here very soon so good to know the Merlin protector needs careful attention to operate smoothly.

Was the RGB lighting particularly difficult?

It was the biggest and most technical but kind of the easiest task since there was no drilling, sawing or breaking out cab parts. The pop bumpers (where you have to cut and splice the leads) was probably the worst part, and we needed to modify the glass channel a little bit so it would fit low enough in my cab to work.

Installed acrylic speaker grills received from @kapsreiter.

Pro Tip: Don’t fully remove all four anchor screws at the same time. Makes the install much easier!

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Got my HD color upgrade kit today and they now do not include the mini SD card with software update.
Instructions just say fit the chip, no mention of software update for it to work. I have an LE on version 1.00 still as it wasn’t used. Guess I need to buy a mini SD card and workout how to get the info onto it, great.

Did you check the first page of the CGC menu to see what is in your game ? ( page 1-10 in the manual )

https://www.chicago-gaming.com/coinop/medieval-madness/update complete instructions on what you need and how to do it.

I'd try it anyway. If it doesn't work, pull it out and put the old one back in, then update the game.

LTG : )

It has the first version as the guy I bought it from (Judge Dreads) did not use it or update it so pretty sure the chip will not work.
I have ordered the mini SD card and downloaded the latest update into my Mac, so will hopefully get it on the card tomorrow and all will be good.
Hope I don’t brick it, annoyed it did not include the card though with the update. For the cost it should have.
Is it going to put version 3.00 in as it says Medieval Madness 300 installer?

yes it will.

Neil.

A question for anyone that has already done the 3 upgrades. Is there any specific order that you would advise? Meaning, should you do GI first, then screen and sound, then topper? Or is order irrelevant?

I think I’d do lighting, topper and then screen. I did the screen first and then had to unplug and remove it (no biggie but wasted time all the same) when I needed to work in the backbox, especially the drilling and cutting for the topper.

If someone could post a photo of the rgb lighting Uninstaller it would be greatly appreciated. Trying to gauge the size of the job

It is a 30+ page booklet with lots of pictures and states an Intermediate Level of experience working on pins is required.

I would say the topper was the worst because you cut a hole in the cab, followed by the new cab speaker, because the old one just didn’t want to come out.

I’ve been running the flipper strength at -5 on my MMr and MBr and have been getting tons of air balls. Finally got around to changing them to -9 tonight. They both play so much better. Wish I would have changed them sooner.

I would like to replace the two red flasher caps in the backboard/behind the castle by transparent caps. Are the red ones installed standard flasher caps? Could you provide me with the part no. of transparent ones, which fit in the backboard?

Was it a "difficult" install for all 3? Time consuming?
Would you do it again?

Only reason I ask is I'm not sure if I'd sell an older machine and then buy a Royal....or, put myself to install all the new parts to essentially make it a Royal...

They're fun either way!

So it probably took about 10 hours between a friend and I, but a lot of that was me mucking around making the cabinet work harder than it needed to be I think. Probably about 6 hours if you’re organized and efficient.

The MOST stressful part for me was the cab speaker mount because it just didn’t want to come out clean. The next was cutting the hole in the top of the cab for the topper wiring. I know for my buddy it was splicing the pop bumper wiring.

The directions are fairly clear (we did have to make adjustments allowing for MMR production changes) and there’s nothing TOO technical so if you would be comfortable doing a flipper rebuild or a shop job I’d say go for it.

If you can get a Royal Edition I will say the RE a really good looking package and I’m sure it would be nice to just have it done for you (plus I’m pretty sure the pops color change, which they don’t with the upgrade) but I’d install the upgrades again if I just happened to have another MMR and the parts.

Yes, the pops on the Royal color change.

Got my upgrades yesterday and got the topper and speaker/display installed. That topper is beautiful.

Few issues in terms of what came in the packaging/install

1) back left hole for topper screw is right where the kicker plate is
2) the template location for mounting the topper board is too low and the cables won’t reach it, had to move it up 1.5”
3) the grounding cable has too small of connectors on it to connect to grounding spades
4) rear glass guide/trim lighting, my guide/trim was stapled in and not screwed so had to make new holes for the new lighted guide/trim screws

I haven’t done the rest of the RGB lights yet, those are up next and I assume I’ll run into a few things there as well!

Didn’t bother with the sub upgrade as I upgraded mine years ago with a dedicated amp and sub box under the playfield (way before TNA was even a thing and did it) Whatever is in the box they sent won’t be anywhere near as good as what I already have. The new speakers are not as good as what I had either but the size is different now so I will have to figure that out as well.

Also noticed the 3.0 update drastically changed the shaker settings, it’s considerably stronger now.

Also what is “shakey” vs “lengthy” lol

Shakey shakes more. Lengthy shakes longer.

LTG : )

Sounds like my wife....

I had all the same issues. Plus I did install the sub and the included screws were too short.

She didn't sound like that for me.

LTG : )

Anyone experience an issue with the flipper strength reducing over time?

Reseat the driver board they plug onto, into the huge board under the playfield.

LTG : )

Classy Lloyd!

Updated to version 3.0 and installed the HD color chip yesterday and all good, also noticed the shaker motor power has been changed.
Still too powerful on the lowest setting, was much better before. Shakes too violently now no matter what power setting and noisier.

compared to the default settings "shaky" vibrates with more actions. e.g. the spinners vibrate with shaky too.
yes, the shaker is also very strong (MMRRE), i mostly use "light" together with "default" or "off