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Does anyone know where a I can get a metal post for behind merlin with a longer threaded portion? Only need about 1/4" more. Issue is I installed plastic protectors and it raised up the plastics about 3mm and I cant thread on the nut. Appreciate any help.
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Ended up making a custom thread a tad longer from parts lying around....thanks for the PMs anyways!

#7009 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

After a long journey I am finally satisfied with my missing center lane. To get to this point:

1. I had to create the center lane piece (FYI - I decided to make ONE more run of these missing center lanes for other MM owners, so if you want one PM me. This will be the last run, way too much effort).
2. Painstakingly dremmelled out the inside of the metal housing surround.
3. Lermods made a custom RBG led light strip, just small enough to insert in this very small space.
4. I originally contacted convolux for yellow playfield plastics. However, they only make them for the lower portion of our games and with all the effort I put into the front of the castle, including having Modfather and M&M do custom paint work, I wanted a full playfield plastics kits in yellow. Luckily, www.playfield-protectors.com makes a 9 piece kit (Germany) and they included extra plastic for me to make a matching custom center lane piece for myself.

WHEW...So after several weeks of trial and error, many playfield lifts, gaming downtime, and thrown out test parts, here is the final eye candy...ENJOY!!!
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#7010 3 years ago

JRZ

Cayenne

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Quoted from Westsiderkg:
After a long journey I am finally satisfied with my missing center lane. To get to this point:
1. I had to create the center lane piece (FYI - I decided to make ONE more run of these missing center lanes for other MM owners, so if you want one PM me. This will be the last run, way too much effort).
2. Painstakingly dremmelled out the inside of the metal housing surround.
3. Lermods made a custom RBG led light strip, just small enough to insert in this very small space.
4. I originally contacted convolux for yellow playfield plastics. However, they only make them for the lower portion of our games and with all the effort I put into the front of the castle, including having Modfather and M&M do custom paint work, I wanted a full playfield plastics kits in yellow. Luckily, www.playfield-protectors.com makes a 9 piece kit (Germany) and they included extra plastic for me to make a matching custom center lane piece for myself.
WHEW...So after several weeks of trial and error, many playfield lifts, gaming downtime, and thrown out test parts, here is the final eye candy...ENJOY!!!
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great work
Happy to hear that the germans could help.
Aren‘t the plastic protectors by playfield-protector clear? They looks yellow shining like my convolux.

#7011 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

Quoted from Cayenne:
great work
Happy to hear that the germans could help.
Aren‘t the plastic protectors by playfield-protector clear? They looks yellow shining like my convolux.

Sebastian at Playfield-Ptotector was cool enough to custom make those yellow for me as well. I know its personal preference, but I really like how the yellow color scheme works overall. Yes, thank you to Deutschland!!!

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#7012 3 years ago

JRZ

Cayenne

Pinside member

Quoted from Westsiderkg:
Sebastian at Playfield-Ptotector was cool enough to custom make those yellow for me as well. I know its personal preference, but I really like how the yellow color scheme works overall. Yes, thank you to Deutschland!!![quoted image]

ty, I will call him, would perfect fit wirh my yellow convolux

#7013 3 years ago

D B

Pin-Pilot

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Quoted from Westsiderkg:
After a long journey I am finally satisfied with my missing center lane. To get to this point:
1. I had to create the center lane piece (FYI - I decided to make ONE more run of these missing center lanes for other MM owners, so if you want one PM me. This will be the last run, way too much effort).
2. Painstakingly dremmelled out the inside of the metal housing surround.
3. Lermods made a custom RBG led light strip, just small enough to insert in this very small space.
4. I originally contacted convolux for yellow playfield plastics. However, they only make them for the lower portion of our games and with all the effort I put into the front of the castle, including having Modfather and M&M do custom paint work, I wanted a full playfield plastics kits in yellow. Luckily, www.playfield-protectors.com makes a 9 piece kit (Germany) and they included extra plastic for me to make a matching custom center lane piece for myself.
WHEW...So after several weeks of trial and error, many playfield lifts, gaming downtime, and thrown out test parts, here is the final eye candy...ENJOY!!!
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Looks GREAT. I am struggling with the modification to the metal guide. I need some time to come to terms with it or think of another way to light the plastic without doing the modification to the metal guide.

Like the look of Yellow as well.

#7014 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

Quoted from Pin-Pilot:
Looks GREAT. I am struggling with the modification to the metal guide. I need some time to come to terms with it or think of another way to light the plastic without doing the modification to the metal guide.
Like the look of Yellow as well.

I hope you can come up with a easier solution than I did, what a pain that was, precision dremellimg the metal.!!!

#7015 3 years ago

D B

Pin-Pilot

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Quoted from Westsiderkg:
I hope you can come up with a easier solution than I did, what a pain that was, precision dremellimg the metal.!!!

That is why I do not want to do it that way. Might be the only option. I just don't know. Need to spend some alone time with the metal LOL

#7016 3 years ago

JHG

wolftownjeff

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Madison, VA

12y 81,800 869 6 1

Quoted from Pin-Pilot:
That is why I do not want to do it that way. Might be the only option. I just don't know. Need to spend some alone time with the metal LOL

Could a machine shop mill it out?
What is the problem with the metal, is it just to hard to drill?
thanks,

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#7017 3 years ago

MCB

EricHadley

Inactive member

8y 110K 4,839

Ya’ll are obsessed with this silly piece of plastic. Game looks great as-is, why fuck up your game?

#7018 3 years ago

JOE

neverahighscore

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East Greenville, PA

11y 131K 1,416 13 14

Quoted from EricHadley:
Ya’ll are obsessed with this silly piece of plastic. Game looks great as-is, why fuck up your game?

I really love all the mods people do. Amazing talent out there. I think the decal on top of the metal looks fine. Mine is from PDI and is very nice product. Some people don't have the talent to do this. If you damage something, you're gonna be sorry. Proceed with caution. Also, I think you void the warranty of the game by adding any mod that could cause mechanical or electrical damage. Love the yellow plastic protectors btw. I can tell you put alot of time into that design and it looks fantastic. Enjoy your game!

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#7019 3 years ago

D B

Pin-Pilot

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Quoted from EricHadley:
Ya’ll are obsessed with this silly piece of plastic. Game looks great as-is, why fuck up your game?

Obsessed, I do not think so.

If you think adding that piece is F**cking up your game then don't do it.

Adding this piece really improves the look of the area.

I can relate it to painting a car and leaving the hood or trunk unpainted.

If you do not want to add the piece you do not have to but I have a hard time believing anyone thinks it is better without it.

It is cheap, easy and a no brainer mod that really improves the looks. You cannot ask for anything more than that kind of mod.

It does not have to be lit.

#7020 3 years ago

RBM

RobbyIRL5

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4y 73,300 974 18 31 2

Anybody ever hit the lock when the drawbridge and gate are down and take down the castle? Happened to me a few times. Don’t think it’s supposed to do that?

#7021 3 years ago

ECB

erak

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Grimsby, ON

15y 122K 3,749 5 86

Quoted from RobbyIRL5:
Anybody ever hit the lock when the drawbridge and gate are down and take down the castle? Happened to me a few times. Don’t think it’s supposed to do that?

Yeah if you open the gate with a hit. I've had the the wall hit bring it down a bunch of times. It's a timed grace period for ball that might roll slowly into the castle. Same switch inside activates both. But the gate opto must be hit just before the wall lock triggers the castle. If not standard lock

#7022 3 years ago

JRZ

Cayenne

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Quoted from RobbyIRL5:
Anybody ever hit the lock when the drawbridge and gate are down and take down the castle? Happened to me a few times. Don’t think it’s supposed to do that?

same with my and friend‘s MMR.
it happens if you immediately after unlock the gate hit the lock door.

#7023 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

Quoted from Pin-Pilot:
Obsessed, I do not think so.
If you think adding that piece is ..... up your game then don't do it.
Adding this piece really improves the look of the area.
I can relate it to painting a car and leaving the hood or trunk unpainted.
If you do not want to add the piece you do not have to but I have a hard time believing anyone thinks it is better without it.
It is cheap, easy and a no brainer mod that really improves the looks. You cannot ask for anything more than that kind of mod.
It does not have to be lit.

I agree with you Pin-Pilot, but its ok, in every hobby there are purists who want to leave things 100% factory, and modders, either way I try my best respect both viewpoints.

To me, symmetry in artwork and the playfield design flow is something important and a focal point. A large chunk of stainless metal, sitting by itself in the middle of the playfield is well...undesirable for some, like me, who are ok with modding their machines, and there should be no concern about this, 2 minutes later it can be removed without issue, no risk.

I'd kindly and very respectfully encourage any purist to think about it this way. If Williams or CGC made MM with a lighted center lane piece, who in their right mind would remove the center lane piece, including the light, and in exchange install a bare chuck of unlighted metal that pretty much matches nothing else on the playfield? Lol, head scratch moment??? Better yet, would someone remove say the lighted factory plastic where merlin mounts and replace it with a unlighted piece of stainless metal with no plastic art cover? Again, why??? The thought alone in either instance seems relatively illogical to me, but hey...my kids teach me all the time that I don't know much.

Anyway, maybe you see my point, maybe not, either way just enjoy your game however you like it and let's all try to be good stewards of the hobby.

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#7024 3 years ago

MCB

EricHadley

Inactive member

8y 110K 4,839

O.B.S.E.S.S.E.D.

#7025 3 years ago

JEF

JimFNB

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6y 84,300 320 8

The day I care what some rando on the internet thinks is the day I need to get off the internet.

Thanks westsiderkg for doing this for the those of us who want it.

#7026 3 years ago

GWP

bent98

Quoted from Westsiderkg:
After a long journey I am finally satisfied with my missing center lane. To get to this point:
1. I had to create the center lane piece (FYI - I decided to make ONE more run of these missing center lanes for other MM owners, so if you want one PM me. This will be the last run, way too much effort).
2. Painstakingly dremmelled out the inside of the metal housing surround.
3. Lermods made a custom RBG led light strip, just small enough to insert in this very small space.
4. I originally contacted convolux for yellow playfield plastics. However, they only make them for the lower portion of our games and with all the effort I put into the front of the castle, including having Modfather and M&M do custom paint work, I wanted a full playfield plastics kits in yellow. Luckily, www.playfield-protectors.com makes a 9 piece kit (Germany) and they included extra plastic for me to make a matching custom center lane piece for myself.
WHEW...So after several weeks of trial and error, many playfield lifts, gaming downtime, and thrown out test parts, here is the final eye candy...ENJOY!!!
[quoted image]

do you have pictures of the rest of the protectors?

#7027 3 years ago

JEF

Viperbsd

Pinside+ Addict

Roseville, CA

12y 55,800 291

Quoted from Westsiderkg:
I agree with you Pin-Pilot, but its ok, in every hobby there are purists who want to leave things 100% factory, and modders, either way I try my best respect both viewpoints.
To me, symmetry in artwork and the playfield design flow is something important and a focal point. A large chunk of stainless metal, sitting by itself in the middle of the playfield is well...undesirable for some, like me, who are ok with modding their machines, and there should be no concern about this, 2 minutes later it can be removed without issue, no risk.
I'd kindly and very respectfully encourage any purist to think about it this way. If Williams or CGC made MM with a lighted center lane piece, who in their right mind would remove the center lane piece, including the light, and in exchange install a bare chuck of unlighted metal that pretty much matches nothing else on the playfield? Lol, head scratch moment??? Better yet, would someone remove say the lighted factory plastic where merlin mounts and replace it with a unlighted piece of stainless metal with no plastic art cover? Again, why??? The thought alone in either instance seems relatively illogical to me, but hey...my kids teach me all the time that I don't know much.
Anyway, maybe you see my point, maybe not, either way just enjoy your game however you like it and let's all try to be good stewards of the hobby. [quoted image]

Well said...BTW that castle looks amazing. Was that Modfathers work ?

#7028 3 years ago

D B

Pin-Pilot

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Quoted from Westsiderkg:
I agree with you Pin-Pilot, but its ok, in every hobby there are purists who want to leave things 100% factory, and modders, either way I try my best respect both viewpoints.
To me, symmetry in artwork and the playfield design flow is something important and a focal point. A large chunk of stainless metal, sitting by itself in the middle of the playfield is well...undesirable for some, like me, who are ok with modding their machines, and there should be no concern about this, 2 minutes later it can be removed without issue, no risk.
I'd kindly and very respectfully encourage any purist to think about it this way. If Williams or CGC made MM with a lighted center lane piece, who in their right mind would remove the center lane piece, including the light, and in exchange install a bare chuck of unlighted metal that pretty much matches nothing else on the playfield? Lol, head scratch moment??? Better yet, would someone remove say the lighted factory plastic where merlin mounts and replace it with a unlighted piece of stainless metal with no plastic art cover? Again, why??? The thought alone in either instance seems relatively illogical to me, but hey...my kids teach me all the time that I don't know much.
Anyway, maybe you see my point, maybe not, either way just enjoy your game however you like it and let's all try to be good stewards of the hobby. [quoted image]

Yes, Well said.

I have no problem at all making mods that can be removed and the game put back to stock with no signs of the mod. I would not do a mod on a game like MM that is not easily reversible or would change the pin permanently. I would want the option to be able to sell the game to a purist.

The mod Westsiderkg did is reversible. You would just have to buy a new metal lane guide. Not a big deal at all. If I do go that route I will buy a lane guide, modify that one then keep the other so if I sell the game to a purist the pin can be put back to OEM condition.

I get some want a pin that has not been modified. Everyone has their preferences.

There are good mods and there are mods that are so-so. This mod is easy and a no-brainer.

#7029 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

Quoted from Viperbsd:
Well said...BTW that castle looks amazing. Was that Modfathers work ?

Yes, that what Chucks work. Super nice guy, recommend calling him if you are interested. We talked for about 1 hour...5 minutes about this castle, 55 about other pinball topics. Best.

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#7030 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

Quoted from Pin-Pilot:
Yes, Well said.
I have no problem at all making mods that can be removed and the game put back to stock with no signs of the mod. I would not do a mod on a game like MM that is not easily reversible or would change the pin permanently. I would want the option to be able to sell the game to a purist.
The mod westsiderkg did is reversible. You would just have to buy a new metal lane guide. Not a big deal at all. If I do go that route I will buy a lane guide, modify that one then keep the other so if I sell the game to a purist the pin can be put back to OEM condition.
I get some want a pin that has not been modified. Everyone has their preferences.
There are good mods and there are mods that are so-so. This mod is easy and a no-brainer.

Correct, those replacement guides can be purchased at planetary pinball for about $20 shipped. Again, minimum amount for maximum fun!

#7031 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

Quoted from bent98:
do you have pictures of the rest of the protectors?

Yes, here you go. FWIW, to me at least, a picture is good but only tells part of the story. You need to see these in person to make an assessment. I think they look great, but a photo is stagnant. Rather in person, as you move around the machine with your eyes, and hit different angles, this is where they really pop for me. Hope this helps, enjoy.

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#7032 3 years ago

GWP

bent98

can you just take one from the top down?

#7033 3 years ago

GWP

bent98

I just got done modding the crap out of my MMR RE. Only thing left is plastic protectors and maybe artwork on the hinges.

#7034 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

Quoted from bent98:
can you just take one from the top down?

Here you go my friend. Sorry, (PDI) glass on for this shot, a little reflection.

By the way, I had to modify a few areas since the metal posts were not long enough. If anyone else encounters this and needs help feel free to PM me and I will gladly assist you.

Your MMRRE looks fantastic by the way!!! Glad I could help you out for my small part.

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#7035 3 years ago

JAS

jetmechinnc

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7y 80,050 1,139 30

Quoted from bent98:
I just got done modding the crap out of my MMR RE

Love it! Is that the trans light or the glass Backglass?? Was thinking about this. Not sure which is better for fitment. Does the trans light just slide out? Sadly haven’t even checked on this. When I took it out, the whole light box case out and it was a little surprising since I’m used to just taking out the glass/translight.

#7036 3 years ago

GWP

bent98

Quoted from jetmechinnc:
Love it! Is that the trans light or the glass Backglass?? Was thinking about this. Not sure which is better for fitment. Does the trans light just slide out? Sadly haven’t even checked on this. When I took it out, the whole light box case out and it was a little surprising since I’m used to just taking out the glass/translight.

I had to return the translite paper one that gets taped to the glass and get the acrylic one that replaces the glass. The one that uses your glass just doesn’t fit right because it’s thin and flops around. The factory translite graphic is very rigid . With the acrylic version ; it’s nice and light so if you have to remove the back glass, it’s easy.

#7037 3 years ago

TIM

TimBoch

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Farmington, MN

10y 69,800 557 6 10

Quoted from RobbyIRL5:
Anybody ever hit the lock when the drawbridge and gate are down and take down the castle? Happened to me a few times. Don’t think it’s supposed to do that?

Another interesting castle thing is completing a castle during multiball and having a ball get stuck between the bridge and gate. Game has to go into search mode to release it after multiball is finished.

#7038 3 years ago

D B

Pin-Pilot

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Quoted from TimBoch:
Another interesting castle thing is completing a castle during multiball and having a ball get stuck between the bridge and gate. Game has to go into search mode to release it after multiball is finished.

Yes, there are a few interesting combinations that have happened. Had a troll close on a ball during multi ball as well.

#7039 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

So I keep getting the right slingshot hit when coming down the right ramp. Table is level. Wasn't there a earlier post about this? What was the simple solution again to slightly redirect the ball towards the flipper? Tks.

Fround it, nevermind. I am curious what gauge transparent plastic foil works though.

#7040 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

Quoted from Zora:
Here some pictures, see the black post and the small plastic between black post and metal guide. That is enough to push the ball a bit to the left and avoids drains through the middle. The ball is sent smoothly to the right flipper. Costs nothing and is hardly visible.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

How did you affix this and what gauge foil did you use? Tks.

#7041 3 years ago

ELL

Zora

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Meerbusch

8y 65,150 415 7

Quoted from Westsiderkg:
How did you affix this and what gauge foil did you use? Tks.

The black post and the metal guide are so close to each other (at least at my MMr), that you just need to press it in the small gap. I cannot remember the gauge. Just try it from plastics in your household, which are a bit stiff, like business card box cover, office supply, cheese cover etc., you see nothing special.

#7042 3 years ago

OAK

Oaken

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5y 106K 2,596

Quoted from Zora:
The black post and the metal guide are so close to each other (at least at my MMr), that you just need to press it in the small gap. I cannot remember the gauge. Just try it from plastics in your household, which are a bit stiff, like business card box cover, office supply, cheese cover etc., you see nothing special.

My daughters birthday is coming up, I will try some plastic from the toy boxes and report back. They use so much of the stuff in the packaging these days there is bound to be a piece that works.

#7043 3 years ago

ELL

Zora

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Meerbusch

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Quoted from Oaken:
My daughters birthday is coming up, I will try some plastic from the toy boxes and report back. They use so much of the stuff in the packaging these days there is bound to be a piece that works.

...will be your birthday as well You need to experiment a bit with the length of the plastic depending on the stiffness of the plastic. If it is too far into the playfield, it influences the ball too much. It only needs a small touch to push the ball over the upper slingshot triangle edge.

#7044 3 years ago

MAG

Completist

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8y 91,850 1,436

Quoted from Westsiderkg:
So I keep getting the right slingshot hit when coming down the right ramp. Table is level. Wasn't there a earlier post about this? What was the simple solution again to slightly redirect the ball towards the flipper? Tks.
Fround it, nevermind. I am curious what gauge transparent plastic foil works though.

I ended up removing the plastic And then carefully bending the end of the ball guide out. There was no way to adjust by loosening the screws since the holes in the bracket are not slotted. Which was a bummer. Now after ejecting from the merlin saucer it drops down missing the sling and hitting the right flipper.

#7045 3 years ago

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Pin-Pilot

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Quoted from Completist:
I ended up removing the plastic And then carefully bending the end of the ball guide out. There was no way to adjust by loosening the screws since the holes in the bracket are not slotted. Which was a bummer. Now after ejecting from the merlin saucer it drops down missing the sling and hitting the right flipper.

I think this is the better way to work this problem. A slight bend to the end of the ball guide at the red bumper is the way to do it.

#7046 3 years ago

DAD

Westsiderkg

Thanks guys...kids came to the rescue. My 7 year old had a plastic left over from a toy. I removed the playfield plastic and unscrewed the guide, then put the plastic between the guide and rubber bumper, screwed it back in, and perfecto. Great solution, thanks!

On another subject, is anyone else's translite vibrating? I hear it a lot with multi ball. Thus far I tried felt. No success. Going to try electrical tape next. Appreciate any other ideas or success stories to help eliminate this annoying rattle.

#7047 3 years ago

MCC

cooked71

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Sydney

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Quoted from Westsiderkg:
So I keep getting the right slingshot hit when coming down the right ramp. Table is level. Wasn't there a earlier post about this? What was the simple solution again to slightly redirect the ball towards the flipper? Tks.
Fround it, nevermind. I am curious what gauge transparent plastic foil works though.

Down the Right ramp or down the right orbit?

#7048 3 years ago

JMK

Pinside member

10y 82,800 950 6 50

@Westsiderkg: My translite was also vibrating a bit.
As others suggested, I did apply some electrical tape along the bottom of the translite and that seemed to eliminate the vibration.

I also had some rattle on my pf glass from the shaker. I applied a few pieces of thin weather stripping foam at the top of the glass (hidden under the glass channel). That also seemed to do the trick.

#7049 3 years ago

JRZ

Cayenne

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