Probably called crazing but according to the definition it preceeds fracture. Anyone think this is a warranty issue or not?

I don't remember seeing the cracks when The machine was new. That's what is concerning to me. It's not a full surface crazing. It is in spot locations.

I think you are right. I am 90% sure that these patterns are scratches on top of the inserts from factory sanding of the playfield. Excellent info thanks!

Two months ago, I initiated a thread about the new MMR LE NIB, that I had been "lucky" to receive after months of unexpected delaying event. Will not go into details, but it was the worse machine condition I never met when buying new pins. Fortunately, many owners are delighted by this pin. For me CGC games are no longer welcome. Thats only one experience.

What happened?

Did not want to put negative things as I already expressed my feeling, but some will consider me as a .... if I do not explain.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/mmr-le-received-this-morning-sad-story

Again, my own experience only, do not want to discourage anybody.

No problem, sorry about your frustration. Thanks for the link.

Pretty much all the MMRs so far were built at Stern for CGC... bar maybe a small run of really recent ones.

They got all set up to do their own manufacture tho and all the remakes going forward from the AFMR release will be built at CGC.

They're stopping production of MMR?

I wasn't really up on the detail of the remake but Instatyed to look for an MM just over a year ago and found more about MMR. Bought an MR and haven't looked back. It's a solid game that's very well made. Whilst I know some people claim it feels different I have to say I struggle to get this feeling, geo is identical. Having seen "top" quality MM's I'm so glad I didn't go down that route. As noted above fully restored is probably the best original route but potentially a pricey prop. My MMR has needed nothing done to it - I put cliffys in thats it - It's been my most reliable pinball and the distributor here in the U.K. echos that sentiment. Ordering an AFMR was a no brainer. I also have Monster Bash and if that is the next next remake - I'll be selling my original and buying the remake.

Neil

Neil

I think it's 250, finish production of AFMR LE machines, then do another 250 MMR. Not sure on any being built after that. Guessing if demand is there it will be done.

They can't make them forever but they're not "limited" so if demand is there they will do more down the road.

But they have to finish the LE and CE AFMRs and start building the SE someday!

MMR = bad product for yuppies.

I prefer playing on my Zac pinball champ 82. For the moment the acdc changes my mind. Not for long I am afraid.
What's the point of making new from old ? Money, money and money. Sh... I purchased, sold within 3 months and never do that again.

Just traded my MM of 15 years for a MMr. Both play excellent and similar. As clean as my old MM was, I like the new everything. I think someone else said it best, go with what you can afford. An old route beater can play just as well as one new out of the box. Both will require some work and tweaking. As long as it is MM, it's all good.

Alright, but what is the point of opening a thread if you already made your mind, purchased the pin, and then "criticize" members who do not share your view ? Anyway, have fun with your new machine, that's the most important

Last time I checked medieval madness was #1 on pinside 100 and it was that way 17 years ago also when I first starting collecting it was number 1 also some things never change. It's a KILLER GAME

IPDB has the longest lasting "Top XX" list I can remember, and TZ has had it on lock at #1 pretty much the whole time. MM is #5, still pretty respectable.

FWIW, statistically speaking, sample size is far more important to meaningful data than the age of the database. And even though the Pinside top 100 is far from accurate, it is still far more accurate than IPDB ; there are top 20 rated PS pins with over 10X more reviews than on IPDB.

Oh sure. But it still goes to show that there is no way to point to a user generated top xx list as any kind of an authority.

I just installed the color upgrade in an MMR standard, and man I gotta say, I wouldn't trade it for an original at this point.