MMr Mods. Post them here.


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#1 1 year ago

Here are some mods for MMr.

Led Lit troll eyes.
Swap G.I. bulbs from retro to superbrights cool white.
Pop bumper leds. Cointaker afterburner leds.
Catapult Knight plastic led.
Merlin plastic led.
Paint the castle windows gloss black.
Pinball decals target decal kit.
Paint the ladders on the castle brown.
Paint the chains on the castle.

3mm red LEDs. 1 for each eye.
And I used a 1 watt 470 ohm resistor. Even though 1/2 watt would do on the - lead.
Hook up to the L+R flasher plugs under the playfield on the big circuit board
Left troll on the left flasher plug. Right troll on the right plug It takes a bit to get the Leds in the eyes. But it's fairly easy.

If you have any more ideas please post them.

» YouTube video

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#2 1 year ago

They're a little on the expensive side, but I like the look of these.

http://www.hookedonpinball.com/store/p74/Medieval_Madness_Sword_flipper_mod.html

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#3 1 year ago

Really looking forward to this thread. Would like to incorporate some of the " regular " MM mods in a semi - plug and play method. Any premium PB type LED kits out there?

#4 1 year ago

Awesome, thanks for the thread

#5 1 year ago

I hope people post pictures of where they wire the mods into. Also how do you go flowing what I assume is lead free solder, what temperature do you use and do you mix leaded solder with it?

Erak I see you have used separate wiring for your LEDs rather than joining them in parallel inside. I tried joining them in a Y shape and one worked and the other failed, bloody fiddly job.
I'm going to try separate wiring for each and inserting them through holes drilled behind rather than through the Base, I am hoping that will be easier.
Did you use glue to secure the LEDs in place or silicone? Also did you use a diode and resistors or just a resistor? Did you make sure that the LEDs were set back inside enough to not be at risk of getting hit by the ball?

#6 1 year ago

Lighted Merlin, blue or red.

http://lermods.com/t/medievil-madness

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#8 1 year ago

Thanks for starting the thread. Yay!

Can someone please start taking pics of all the different places that are good to tap into for power on LED lights and how they did it? Can't wait to see all the cool mods on this pin here in this thread.

#9 1 year ago
Quoted from Laseriffic:

Here is our topper, it can be used on MMR or WPC 95.
http://laseriffic.myshopify.com/collections/pinball-toppers/products/medieval-madness-topper-1

This is your BEST effort to date IMO. I love it on my MMR!

(I'm still hoping for a TZ version this over the top!)....

#10 1 year ago
Quoted from DeeGor:

They're a little on the expensive side, but I like the look of these.
http://www.hookedonpinball.com/store/p74/Medieval_Madness_Sword_flipper_mod.html

These are cool. Just so you know the adheasive they come with sucks. They will come flying off. Another thread mentioned it, but they stay put with 3M auto trim detail tape.....

#11 1 year ago
Quoted from Rat:

I hope people post pictures of where they wire the mods into. Also how do you go flowing what I assume is lead free solder, what temperature do you use and do you mix leaded solder with it?
Erak I see you have used separate wiring for your LEDs rather than joining them in parallel inside. I tried joining them in a Y shape and one worked and the other failed, bloody fiddly job.
I'm going to try separate wiring for each and inserting them through holes drilled behind rather than through the Base, I am hoping that will be easier.
Did you use glue to secure the LEDs in place or silicone? Also did you use a diode and resistors or just a resistor? Did you make sure that the LEDs were set back inside enough to not be at risk of getting hit by the ball?

I brought out all 4 leads , 2 from each led. As it's easier to just wire them together outside close ti the troll head. Then I tucked the connection back up inside the head and glued it in there, so only two leads are coming out +/-.

They are hot glued in place inside the head. I just put the hot glue on the end of a small screwdriver to smear it in there.
But they were real snug to begin with. I has to press them in the drilled holes with a screwdriver too.

But make sure you paint the drilled holes black before putting the leds in.

No diode it's just hooked up to the flasher plug.

I will post pics of where they are hooked up. And I didn't solider them into the game. I just poked the tinned + lead into the flasher plug. And poked the end of the resistor into the - wires spot. There is just enough room and they fit snug. And then tie wrapped them in place around the existing wires for extra security.

The solider I use is this stuff. No flux needed, and it flows great.
And to solider this type of stuff I just use my gun. It's not board work so Al long as it melts and bonds it's fine. Then heat shrink over any bare spots.

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#12 1 year ago
Quoted from Laseriffic:

Here is our topper, it can be used on MMR or WPC 95.
http://laseriffic.myshopify.com/collections/pinball-toppers/products/medieval-madness-topper-1

I have his toppers on all 3 of my pins. My opinion, best toppers in the biz and great customer service!

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#13 1 year ago

Right troll to PL92 + to yellow.
- lead with 470 ohm 1 watt resistor to blue.

Left troll FL17 + to yellow.
- lead with 470 ohm 1 watt resistor to blue.

And the result is the video I put in the first post.

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#14 1 year ago

Thanks for the tips erak ?

#15 1 year ago

Thanks for starting this thread!
The troll eyes look great Erak.

Does anyone know if the Pinball Bulbs "Medieval Madness Lighting Extras LED Kit" would work on MMR too?
I emailed them but haven't heard back yet. My game room is Dark...

#16 1 year ago

Id like to kno same thing if anybodys made an interactive cabinet and speaker led lighting kit that works with mmr.

#17 1 year ago
Quoted from peaceboy666:

Id like to kno same thing if anybodys made an interactive cabinet and speaker led lighting kit that works with mmr.

I checked with 'Speaker Light Kits' because they make great stuff. The owner said that MMr would be really tough to do because of the way the speaker/LED panel was made. He said they were not going to pursue it. Bummer because it would be cool....

#18 1 year ago

I have a left over pinball pro set for a stern unused. Any chance this can fit on mmr?

#19 1 year ago
Quoted from peaceboy666:

Id like to kno same thing if anybodys made an interactive cabinet and speaker led lighting kit that works with mmr.

I was told by RockCustomPinball that they currently do not have a undercab kit for MMR, but hope to have one someday...

If you find someone who does, let me know too!

Still wondering, does anyone knows if LED strips and spotlights can be alligator clipped onto GI wiring like original Williams machines?
I need a playfield illumination kit like the pinballbulbs kit, my gameroom is just too dark to see the ball easily.

#20 1 year ago
Quoted from jrockne:

I was told by RockCustomPinball that they currently do not have a undercab kit for MMR, but hope to have one someday...
If you find someone who does, let me know too!
Still wondering, does anyone knows if LED strips and spotlights can be alligator clipped onto GI wiring like original Williams machines?
I need a playfield illumination kit like the pinballbulbs kit, my gameroom is just too dark to see the ball easily.

You could clip on to G.I. lights no problem as they are standard sockets. That's how my knight plastic is lit and the merlin plastic.

As far as hooking up 12v strips under the cab for the flashers just look at the big circuit board to find where the flashers are plugged in and tap off of that like I did for the troll eyes.

Or you could use the flashers in the head behind the translight.

It's pretty easy to figure out what is what on MMr as basically every light is plugged into it comes off of the big board. As there are no wire bundles of old. Just follow the wires from the flashers to where they are plugged in.

#21 1 year ago

Another cool MMr mod if you can find it.

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#22 1 year ago

Went with the "hooked" flipper swords and crest too. I just wanted to state, I really didn't expect these to be actual solid metal. They are top quality!

Orange super bands!

And wired up some additional spotlights to light up the playfield and castle.
Now I'm just waiting on the power supply to power them.

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I also installed a blue led strip at the back of the playfield that lights with the right rear flasher! (Thanks to Drewblood for that idea!) it really changes the look back there. I'll post a quick video!

Here's the link:
» YouTube video

#23 1 year ago
Quoted from erak:

Another cool MMr mod if you can find it.

I got the same one...LMAO!

#24 1 year ago

Where did you get the sticker at?

#25 1 year ago
Quoted from jrockne:

I also installed a blue led strip at the back of the playfield that lights with the right rear flasher! (Thanks to Drewblood for that idea!) it really changes the look back there. I'll post a quick video!
Here's the link:
» YouTube video

Looks great! What kind of led strip, and how long?
Also which rear flasher did you hook it up too?

I'd like to add that to mine. It really makes the lightning pop.

#26 1 year ago
Quoted from erak:

Looks great! What kind of led strip, and how long?
Also which rear flasher did you hook it up too?
I'd like to add that to mine. It really makes the lightning pop.

I used a piece of 12v RGB LED strip with 30 LEDs/M cut to the width of the cabinet(I like the dimmer look of the 30 vs 60 etc.)
I bought some electrical connectors with leads. (Amazon)
Some extra wire for slack.

I soldered the Red(+) wire from the connector to the +12v tab on the RGB strip Black(-) to the B. I added a bit of extra wire so it would not restrict movement of the playfield.

I mounted the LED strip across the back of the cabinet, pretty much the same way you would put a backboard illumination strip.
(I mounted it as far back as I could so most of the light hits the backboard and not right above the castle)

I soldered the red lead to the (+) and the black lead to the (-) of the flasher mounted on the backboard just to the right side of the castle.
(Easiest flasher to get to when the playfield if pulled forward)

Of course you could forget the connector and just hardwire the whole thing in, But I like the option of quickly disconnecting if if I need to.
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#27 1 year ago

Just finished wiring the spotlights, and red led strip to illuminate the flippers. I might mess around with some of the GI LEDs (swap out for color) But I should be able to see the ball once I get it into the basement!
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My phone always blows the purple way out of proportion!

#28 1 year ago

I did the spotlights too. Much more visibility on the ball. Also the inside the apron.

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#29 1 year ago

Looks good, What color bulbs did you use for your spotlights? I'm thinking about changing mine out for some soft white... maybe red pointed at the dragon.

#30 1 year ago

I use comet pinball frosted warm white Optix Maximus. Same for the apron. Not Shown on the picture but its a 10 cm led strip warm white too.

http://www.cometpinball.com/product-p/opmax.htm

http://www.cometpinball.com/MATRIX-10-SMD-5050-6-3V-LIGHTED-STRIPS-p/10smd6.3vstrip.htm

#31 1 year ago

Can someone plez post a photo of where you are linking to GI under the playfield or other? Can it be alligator clipped? Should I soder? I want to know how extra lights and spotlights are being wired for dis stuff. If it was a normal MM it would be no problem but with this circuit board I don't know how to go about it. I don't want to mess it up.

I want to light up under Wizard & Catapult plastics and add spotlights to slings. Can anyone help? Thanks.

#32 1 year ago
Quoted from Mokthemagicman:

I want to light up under Wizard & Catapult plastics and add spotlights to slings. Can anyone help? Thanks.

If you are just mounting one led you can connect it via alligator clips to any of the GI lights. that is how I wired my spotlight by the catapult entrance. (See pictures posted above) The Dual Spotlights I mounted on the sling are connected to a 12v power supply. (you could probably wire that in like the toppers, using the factory power supply.)

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#33 1 year ago

i got the MMR topper from laserific but no instructions, comes with fork clip to clamp on - where?

#34 1 year ago
Quoted from NeilMcRae:

i got the MMR topper from laserific but no instructions, comes with fork clip to clamp on - where?

I believe you screw it right to the 12v screws on the switching power supply in the bottom of the cab.

This pic is from a laseriffic MMr topper post.

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#35 1 year ago

Just ordered the Pinball bulbs MM kit. The brightening kit items and GI will work for sure. I'll see what else I can make work with MMR and post back.

#36 1 year ago

I like the lightning flash effect and definitely want to do something like this. Has anybody tried using an ultraviolet LED strip? I am wondering if this would have a similar effect on the lightning bolts as the creeping death mod for Metallica.

Quoted from erak:

Looks great! What kind of led strip, and how long?
Also which rear flasher did you hook it up too?
I'd like to add that to mine. It really makes the lightning pop.

#37 12 months ago

We have a backboard flasher kit for Ironman that would fit MM or MMR. In IM it is tied to the pop bumper flasher so every time pops are hit it flashes blue. The video doesn't do it justice, much sharper in person. No soldering required, we use alligator clips on a socket flasher. 12v application.

http://lermods.com/products/ironman-backboard-flasher-kit

#38 12 months ago

Is anyone making a plug and play troll led eye kit for MMR?

These are readily available for the original game but no ready to go kits for the new release? Or am I just looking in all the wrong places?

#39 12 months ago
Quoted from charles4400:

Is anyone making a plug and play troll led eye kit for MMR?
These are readily available for the original game but no ready to go kits for the new release? Or am I just looking in all the wrong places?

I just picked up my MMr and was planning on making all kinds of cool mods for it , including the led light up trolls as a ready made kit. I will buy the trolls brand new, repaint them better and add red led to their eyes. These mods will be available on my website soon. http://www.modfatherpinball.com Stay tuned folks.

#40 12 months ago
Quoted from modfather:

I just picked up my MMr and was planning on making all kinds of cool mods for it , including the led light up trolls as a ready made kit. I will buy the trolls brand new, repaint them better and add red led to their eyes. These mods will be available on my website soon. http://www.modfatherpinball.com Stay tuned folks.

Awesome, look forward to seeing what you come up with! Keep us posted!

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#41 11 months ago

Anybody know where to buy the 2 archers without led ( I Can do it myself) it makes it les soirs expensive ?

#42 11 months ago

Some Schleich toys added to the playfield: catapult for the catapult ramp, king on horse for the king of payne castle, Merlin, princess for the damsel ramp. A bit stuffed, but you can see every ramp, castle entry etc.

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#43 11 months ago

The playfield characters look really cool. I like some diversity of the look of my games by adding a few characters. It's nice that these can be moved or swapped out to achieve different feel. Is anyone doing target decals ? I need to add a set for more customization. I have a new take on the catapult toy, stay tuned.

#44 11 months ago

Since I really love this game I decided to fully pimp out this machine and make it the best it can be with tasteful mods. I added the usual decals seen on past forum posts on the target bumpers, and Troll targets along with the decal near the drawbridge. I wanted to add Mirror blades on this machine. It really makes it shine. I think it makes this pin look even more beautiful (if that is even possible).
I also added the metal mod upgrades. The shield looks crooked in the photo but I later fixed it. The swords on the flippers flew off after a few days so I will have to figure out how to properly attach them. They had 3M backing but it didn't work. Also added was the Catapult and Merlin light mods so you can see them. I love that mod. Spotlights added for playfield. They also look nice in a dark room. Swap out of the stock black rubber flippers with Purple Titans to better match the playfield I think looks sweet. I also added a Polk external subwoofer under the machine (not shown).

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Last but not least and I think is the most important upgrade to this machine is a speaker swap out. This should be a "must do" change on EVERYBODY'S MMr! Everyone has been complaining about how muffeled the voices are, get drowned out, and how low they sound when compared to a classic MM machine. When I received my MMr I also noticed that the voices were getting drowned out from the music. I read about people swapping out the cheap "Made in China" (written on back) speakers. They lack a real tweater and run at a 86db sensitivity. I took advice from fellow pinsider Nosro and upgraded the speakers with Kicker 40CS54 that has 90db sensitivity. He said that the old cheap speaker was only a "mid-range driver that doesn't even have a whizzer (which is the inexpensive way to get some treble compared to a dedicated tweeter). This is why voices sound muffled."

Interesting right? So I took the plunge and decied to try em out.

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First I must say that the speakers install perfectly into this machine. It almost feels like they were "supposed" to be the correct speakers installed into an MMr. They fit into the circular frame lip like a glove. A few solder here and there to the wires and boom. New speakers and WOW what a HUGE difference! Let me see if I can properly explain the quality increase in sound that will make sense in word form, without you actually hearing it.

First off when I turned on the machine and started a game I was instantly blown away with how the King's voice was much, MUCH louder, clearer, and cleaner. It sounded very separated from the music and not "mushed together" in a muddy way that the old cheap stock speakers sounded. So really the problem wasn't the software not having an option to turn down the music. It was always an issue with the speakers not being able to reach the proper pitch and sound sensitivity to make it sound they way it should. This is really too bad. So an update to the software for adjusting the sound isn't the answer. Upgrading the speakers is! I guess the added 3db makes a huge difference.

As I played I also could hear a distinct separation of music instruments such as the snare drums and horns. They definitely sounded sharper and higher resolution. The bass was greatly improved and increased too, noticably when you lose a ball and the scores get added up. Such a distinct difference! Another cool thing that really stood out was a certain sound effect. When you chop off the Dragon's Head the sound of the slash "Shhhhink" sound was at a higher and clearer pitch. It was so much louder that it actually made me look up at the DMD screen and take notice. Not so loud that it hurt my ears or anything. It just was VERY noticeable, when before it just kinda got lost and muffeled when squished with the music like all the other background sounds did (or used to before the upgrade).

Overall, the swap out with the Kicker speakers turned out awesome and I am very happy with it. As I said, this really is a MUST for any MMr owner. It's a shame that the creators didn't put higher quality speakers into this machine because it really needs and deserves them. I feel bad for any MMr owner that has NOT made this update to their machine yet and I think they are missing out on such a great improvement to their machine. If you are not thrilled with the quality sound, music and get frustrated that you can't hear the call outs or the funny lines from all the various characters in the game then do yourself a favor and make this upgrade a priority to your MMr machine. You will love it! At least I do.

http://amzn.to/2bYDTHR
Here is a link to my $59 Kicker upgrade if you want em:

#45 11 months ago

Does anyone make a speaker light kit for MMR?

#46 11 months ago

Nice writeup Mok!

I got the pinball pro mmr set and it sounds great, there are tweeters in the backbox speakers as well (someone mentioned it was just midrange apeakers which isnt the case).

Your speaker method sounds like a great and cost efficient alternative for sure!

Does the Merlin light you put in constantly lit or does it turn on based on mode?

#47 11 months ago

Any news of when the new shakers are starting to ship again? my distributor still doesn't have them.

#48 11 months ago
Quoted from charles4400:

Nice writeup Mok!
I got the pinball pro mmr set and it sounds great, there are tweeters in the backbox speakers as well (someone mentioned it was just midrange apeakers which isnt the case).
Your speaker method sounds like a great and cost efficient alternative for sure!
Does the Merlin light you put in constantly lit or does it turn on based on mode?

No. I just hooked it to GI so it is always on. If it wasn't for the circuit board in the way I could wire it to the lights like a normal MM would be. Oh well.

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#49 11 months ago

I want to install LED strips to the front of the apron to add general playfield lighting, but I am confused about what voltage strips I need. They seem to come in 6.3V or 12V, can I hook the 6.3V strips to my GI? cometpinball.com seems to have some good options.

-ben

#50 11 months ago

I used a 12v RGB strip and wired it to a 12v power supply, along with extra playfield spotlights. The 6.3v comet sells should work running off a GI socket.

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