And for peanuts...Enjoy your 8K game while the guy on the line makes $9/hr. or @19K per year. It is pinball's dirty little secret. Slave wages to build toys for rich people, kind of like China. I have a moral dilemma every time I purchase a newer game. I've never bought NIB though, so that eases my guilt a little bit, but not much.

_{Post edited by usandthem: Clarification.}

Well, that's one way to look at it. However, I don't want to be on the "race to the bottom" train.

Actually, I owned it, but not anymore. Thanks for reminding me to update that. As for owning modern games at various points even believing what I believe on this matter, I am certainly not faultless.

I was just responding to someone who referred to the assembly line workers as "unsung heroes" and pointing out just how unsung they truly are.

Love that skit. None of the cast members, especially Rachel Dratch and Jimmy Fallon, could hold it together. Jimmy hardly ever could, and if he shared a skit with Will Ferrell, forget about it.

Surprised to hear this from you. Pretty disappointing. At least those "unskilled, loser UAW workers" could afford a Chevy, a house, and could send their kids to college, you know back when we had a strong social contract.

Actually, I would say that 90% of my comments on this forum are positive ones. There are just certain things that strike a chord with me. And besides, I didn't even bring it up initially. It's just when someone had mentioned that we should celebrate the "unsung heroes on the Stern assembly line", I couldn't resist.

I didn't respond back to the several responses that spoke out against my comments and continue to belabor the point. I made my feelings clear on the subject (This is still an all things pinball forum, isn't it?) and the circumstances surrounding the actual production of them shouldn't be off limits.

As for my response specifically to FamilyArcade, he and I usually see eye to eye on these kinds of matters, so I was surprised at his response. That's all. I'm ready to drop it for the time being.

If you want to get this started back up again, let's do it. Rendering your judgments from one snapshot is anecdotal at best, and extremely cynical at worst. Are you smarter than that or just a smart ass?

I also wrote the above in a post below that one.

But the fact is that I made my position clear on the matter, which I can on this pinball forum (yes, the act of putting them together and the labor and labor costs associated should not be off limits). As expcected, I had more detractors than supporters. It's not surprising here.

What's your point? That's about the equivalent of the $9.00/hr. here. I'm glad that you're not upset that in this "greatest country on Earth" that you get to subsidize Stern with their workers' publicly funded healthcare, food, and housing, which they certainly qualify for at the wages that they receive.

Love it or leave it. Yee haw.