I disagree. I say we feed this troll! at the way he is accumulating thumbs down we have a chance to drive his score into negative numbers!

To answer the thread's question in the title: it's a Stilliams.

This is so damn typical...

Damn this thread took a nose dive... lolz.

I don't believe you; you're way too tall to be crawling around under games leveling them

The games WERE fixed - the first day I played it was floaty as hell, but the next day the levelers were adjusted and it played fine. If it WAS you that crawled under there, that was probably a sight!

It's easy to judge your intent. Pure trolling. Seriously, this is the stupidest thing I've read here in a few days, and that includes dozens of pages of Predator bullshit.

Same legs, same bolts, same levelers, same cabinet, and (lol), same tilt mech. All performed exactly as they did on a WMS MM. Levelers were fixed after a day and the games slid around on that carpet just fine.

Mine will be at SFGE barring any last minute surprises - come play it.

WOW! I used to like Pinside.

How dare you question PPS. That's a federal offense.

You are absolutely correct that there were issues that were cause for legitimate concern. However, build quality issues of MMR was never one of those.

One of the reasons that there is no discussion of your original post is that there aren't very many people that, at this moment, compare how a production MMR plays vs. an original because (a) not many have MMRs to play yet and (b) very few will also have a good playing original to compare it to.

That said - I think the premise of your original question is silly and uninformed.

With an unusually high number near Hacienda Heights, apparently?

Ill trade my original one for someones new one plus $2000 if they hate the new one that much.

And ill give you the IPB repro PF with it.

Brilliant. I very rarely lol out loud. I did then. Haha!

You said PPS staff ... please let me know exactly who from PPS that was, as I was the only person from PPS at the show.

Folks at a show and the people making sure its 100 ready to ship are not usually the same people. Regardless you already heard it was adjusted the next day.
Move on! Now that being your only experience and 7k more due, take a trip and go play one first or just sell your spot. Folks have been looking. Buy one later.
Not sure what else you want to hear at this point.

All I can add is I played an old one at the show and then the MMr and not only was it clear to me that its awesome but my friend with a nice older MM immediately started talking about making the move to a new one.

Are you talking about Tad because I tried buying that back and he doesn't want to sell?

As for leveling at expo, it was finally leveled correctly but the next day it wasn't again. I took pictures of it and posted it here on pinside.

To the op, move on. You clearly have a bias.

You are confusing alot of stuff and I would appreciate removal of any misleading statements from any of your posts concluding that. You can not just state things on a public forum that are flat out wrong and then just say 'sorry' ... oy.

xrayman it's really beginning to seem like the purpose of this thread was not to ask a question but to assert your point of view.

LOL. Says who? This isn't pps's forums. He apologized. That's more than a lot of people would do here.

Welcome to Pinside. You're gonna do great.

Yes. Like of all of us we go back and forth. But he loved the new one. Now his is exceptional and loaded with great mods so I think that made him stay. Its like my LOTR. If they made a new LOTR and I did not have one I would buy it over an older. But now the one I have is so done with I want that I can't start over. In too deep.

Short answer is played an old one, played the new one. New on felt the same but new. Obviously that made it play better.

Controllers gonna control...

Rick, why attack the OP? Is it only an outright lie because he's new here?

Rick,

You were not the only person in your booth the whole weekend (I know I saw more than a few different faces). I would certainly assume that all the people there were PPS staff. I would also assume that anyone around or working on the MMr games were also PPS staff since PPS is the one selling the games. So, like it or not, you are ultimately going to be pointed at for the actions of those representing your booth or your games. So, I can't blame the OP for his assuming those people were part of your group...

Jaz

Its a pps - Williams parts, but different electronics

Stern is only providing the skilled labour to put them together, and it will be probably way better than a fresh bunch of people assembled for the project.

I dont see why people attack pps like this, I thank them for making it happen! I cant wait to get a mmr someday, I just have to wait for our dollar to hopefully come back a bit otherwise I would have already been on board :\

But are they the same legs? It seemed to me the Sterns ARE more "wobbly" because the legs are either thinner, softer metal or both. This was very apparent when I first got LotR and had a fresh experience to compare to all my other games. It was so prominent I was worried the legs might collapse. Really, they were that flexible. No BS.

I feel like this thread was created only to troll. It looks like it was only started to get a negative back-and-forth going, and isn't really serving much of a purpose.

Also, the way everything is worded...it's just not a healthy conversation.

I can't keep it open.