My original MM seems to be able to clear 2 balls from the catapult, sometimes it takes 2 tries but I have never had to remove the glass to resolve the issue. I wouldn't bend anything yet... is it possible to install a small deflector to keep the ball from flying out of the habittrail/ramp?

Can't speak about MMR, but my MM experience is the same as Concretehardt's - catapult has always been able to clear two balls.

Yes to all of the above, my catapult has been 100% reliable.

there a way to improve the strength of the coil?

I had the same issue with the catapult

The solution was just to move the wirerail for the catapult over to the right a little bit...just loosen the screw about 1/2 way up, slide the wirerail over a bit and tighten the screw.

It now works perfectly.

Good luck!
Ed

The MM (original) on route near me fails to kick even a single ball all the way around the ramp regularly. Sometimes it will, sometimes it wont. If two balls get stuck in the upkicker, that's a problem. If a ball comes back down the left ramp, not a problem. Not awesome, but not a problem. At least for me. People want their games to be perfect, but they won't be.

I would be more concerned that the upkicker is probably going to get weaker over time. You also might want to check the alignment of the ball(s) in the upkicker saucer.

Try Ed's solution first.

Then :

Put a ball in the catapult and watch it go up and out the wireform. Does it go up it smoothly or does it hit at it and then up and out ?

If it goes up smoothly, then clean and wax it with what ever you use on the playfield.

If it's hitting into the wireform, you'll need to gently bend it down a bit so the ball goes up it rather than at it.

LTG : )™

Glad to hear that it was an easy fix like mine. They should make sure it is in the right position in the factory but an easy enough fix.

Enjoy the game!

Thanks for the input. I really like the "slow incandescent emulation" setting in the CGC submenu. Best looking LEDs I've ever seen in a game.

It's nice of you to share this gem with the public! From experience, if you're routing your Medieval Madness have a couple of each of these on hand to save you the downtime when they inevitably break from being completely pounded on.

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And at least one of these

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Thanks for the info...still waiting for my Black...

Gonna resurrect this thread because I'm not fully happy with the way my catapult has been behaving. Right now I have the coil set to Max with the wireform adjusted pretty far to the right, just to get it to get around smoothly about 75% of the time. The other 25% it may hit somewhere at the apex of the loop or hit the exit switch, which will slow/impede its progress a bit. At a coil strength of anything less than +2 the ball won't even make it out of the catapult.

I could live with it the way it is, but the bigger problem I'm trying to solve is the situation of having multiple balls stuck in the catapult(typically two). It is impossible for it to eject any balls at that point. It appears that the ball being launched is hitting the bottom lip of the wireform.

Is this the bit that LTG is referring to, to "bend down"? I'm just wary of taking a pair of pliers or something to the wireform. Don't want to cause any damage, especially cosmetic, and want to be clear on the spot.

Also, could the coil itself just be underpowered or a dud? Seems to me that at Default power it should at least be able to eject the ball up the catapult. I checked under the hood and it looks fine mechanically to me. Nothing loose in the linkages or anything.

Any advice appreciated.

Watch the ball shoot into the wireform from the side. Does it go up the wireform or at it.

If up it, I'd clean and wax the wireform where the balls travel. If at it, I'd try and lower where it is hitting a little so balls go more up than at it.

LTG : )

New MMRLE owner here. Related issue in that the ball fires out of the catapult then sometimes falls off the habitrail/wireform somewhere in the middle of the playfield (instead of returning to the left inlane). Is my catapult power too strong? Only 5 games played so far, still adjusting levels but should be close enough.

I have only had this happen once in many, many games on my MMR Standard. The catapault is set at +1, which is the perfect strength to clear 2 balls, which happened to be in a game last night actually, and still works fine for ball travels on the wireform/habitrail.

All other strength setting are default except I also have +1 on the flipper strength to get the ball to reach the damsel tower easily. ( I did this because the damsel ramp diverter seems to get stuck down a lot and a normal right ramp shot becomes a damsel tower shot).

We have an MMr at work here and it will launch 2 balls from the catapult. It will NOT however, clear 3 balls as one of my co-workers sadly discovered during Battle for the Kingdom!

Ya 3 balls is too much it seems and I've done that as well (on a different MMR).

But my issue seems to be the wireform not catapult as I can also hit the left ramp and cause the ball to fall off the wireform before it gets to the left inlane.

Hey All,

Just unboxed my MMr Special, a couple issues going on, would love your insights. I'm somewhat of a noob so troubleshooting is not my forte.
- Already have a credit dot, NIB two days ago, test report says, "Check Switch 12 Catapult Target". Any ideas what this means?
- The left towers(as you looking at the castle) are not resetting back into the upright position. They are laying to the left. It seems like the spring that holds the tower and pulls them back into the upright position is too lose. Any experience fixing this?
- The main wirerail that runs across the playfield from the catapult and left ramp, when the ball has any speed coming back down the wire rail, it flies off and onto the playfield. I am thinking it might need to be bent so adjust the angle or maybe loosen and move the rail? Before I start tinkering with it, want to see if any has any experience with this.

Thanks in advance, JW

may want to ping cgc with such a new game. I can say my catapult Target switch gets “stuck” from time to time. Take off glass, go to switch test mode, and activate it. It’s under the catapult, not the catapult switch itself.

It means you haven't hit that target. Look at your game. See the catapult ? Now look up from it towards the red flasher dome a little in front of the catapult. See the red target ? It's a tough shot to hit it. Start hitting it and the error will go away.

Simple fix. The towers are on a metal base. Four screws hold it on. Remove the screws. The whole thing lifts off. Then you can check if there are burs or something not letting the towers snap back up, or tighten the springs on them.

Playfield at a 6 1/2 degree pitch ? You haven't made the flippers stronger when they didn't need it ? Then gently bend it a tiny bit.

LTG : )

He just did.

LTG : )

Man you lurk everywhere (but in a good way!) helped me a few times as well.

Jamwin welcome to the club

I do tech support for CGC, so a little more than lurking.

LTG : )

Thanks for the insights, gonna get "under the hood" today and look check everything based on your recommendations. And yes, it is @ 6.5 pitch, and haven't adjusted flipper strength. It falls off the rails even when the catapult kicks it out.

When adjust the spring, do you just take the existing spring and reduce the number of spirals in it but moving the attached hoop down/up? my fear is damaging the spring but i am sure this is a standard replacement part if damaged.

Either way, thanks again for the insight's everyone, very helpful. JW

If it needs it, yes. Take a loop or two off. Assuming no molding flashing or anything binding the towers performance.

LTG : )

You. Are. The. Man. (that is, assuming you're a man, lol) That worked! thanks again for your help!

I had a credit dot and the same message about the Catapult Target switch about 2 days after getting my new MMrSE too. I then hit the target during play and it went away. The game tracks when switches have not been activated after a period of time and alerts you in case they maybe be malfunctioning.

The only problem I have had with my MMrSE is that the date and time do not update while the machine is powered off. It has happened since day 1. I have reset the date and time each time I power it on and finally went into the back box and found that the coin battery had some gummy residue stuck to the + side that touches the circuit board. I replaced the battery with a new one and it didn't fix the issue so I pulled the new battery out and it to had a gummy residue on it. Tried cleaning the board with the battery out but the date and time still do not update while powered off, so I have just deactivated the display of date and time. All the other settings and highscores do save however.

Please go to https://www.chicago-gaming.com/ under Support - Help Desk, open a ticket about this.

It may go to me, I'll alert it to the engineer.

LTG : )

10 games or 30 balls.

LTG : )

Yep, hit the target and credit dot gone...lol...this is a lesson I won't forget. still getting accustomed the "switch test" thing but good learning lesson nonetheless. thanks all.

okay, one more minor thing, my MMrSE has the enhanced speaker system in it, which is great, but it seems to be rattling the glass. When i apply pressure to the glass around the cabinet rail, the rattling stops. I am thinking about putting felt strips in the glass slot to hold the glass in tighter to prevent the rattle. Does anyone have a better way of doing it and do you think felt will do any damage to by making it a tighter fit? thanks in advance. you all are awesome help.

Felt strips will stop the rattling

I have had this issue since day 1 too. I’ve thought of doing something similar, but have made it better by just moving the glass a slight bit to lessen the buzzing.

Thanks Lloyd. Here is what the residue looked like on the original battery, the new battery and inside the battery socket looked like.

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If it's still not keeping time, please open a ticket so the engineers can get it sorted out for you.

LTG : )

I did last week. Got an email reply and gave updated information. Was informed it was going to engineering. Still waiting for a reply. Not a big deal. Seems the rest of the settings, highscores and accomplishments are still being saved.

LTG, you seem to be the resident expert, my MMrSE, only a week old, display screen just went blank in the middle of a game. Game still playing but nothing is on the screen. Not sure if it's a fuse, can't even figure out what fuse it would be. Any insights? I sent a not to Chicago Gaming a few minutes ago. thanks in advance.

There are a lot of people here smarter than me helping out.

I might not have access to it, a ticket I would. I do tech support for them.

Any way. Turn the game off. The connectors to the LCD screen, reseat them at the screen and where the come from in the backbox. Push in real tight.

That should fix you up.

LTG : )

Thanks LTG. tightened every connection can find, still dead as a door nail. this pin hates me. jw

Did you unplug them and plug back in ?

If so. Please go to - https://www.chicago-gaming.com/ under support on the help desk and open a ticket. I am sorry, they may not be on it until Monday. Arturo or Edwin will get you what you need.

Thank you,
LTG : )

yeah, unplugged and plugged back in, nada. is there a fuse that could be blown? and did open a ticket, no worries about it being monday, is what it is. thank again for your help, much appreciated.

Sadly, no. Reseat usually does it.

I didn't see the ticket in there. You might give them a call on Monday. Hit "0" for operator and ask for Arturo or Edwin.

Thank you,
LTG : )

I just sent it via the help desk, before i just sent them an email through the "contact us" link. you should see the ticket now. again, thanks for your help and hopefully it gets assigned to you to continue helping. talk soon. jw