That is unfortunate but hey even the original MM's didn't come with a color dmd and was a paid mod afterwards. Would have been cool if it was free though at least as a gesture of good faith to those that bought the LE's.

The only promise I heard was from CG was that they were going to make a pin that looked and played exactly like the original MM. With that mandate they nailed it, to include "mods" in the remake would seem a bit odd unless stated at the outset. I just hope that CG's solution to color DMD is at least cheaper than the color DMD mod.

Well that didn't take long for this or any other thread with MMr in the title to become this pro vs anti MMr love hate bash. The usual suspects are attracted to them like flies to sh*t. I really don't understand why people who don't even own an MMr or have an order on the way seem to feel the need to spew their brand of hatred for this machine. You will know who they are by the thumbs down they will give this post. The only commonality I can see is that they own an original or soon to be remade original and watched as the trending price of their precious originals dropped. Bashing MMr is not going to bring the MM prices back up, sorry you speculated and lost.

Back on topic. I think there is great potential for them to do a much better version of colorizing than color DMD with smaller pixels etc. I'm really looking forward to seeing what they come up with.

All machines play differently. If anyone has played in pinball leagues they have heard of the curse of owning the game in that the neuromuscular memory of your own game hinders you when playing at a hosts house which, you guessed it, plays completely different. No 2 machines play the same way, that goes for MM's and MMr's, or TZ's or Addams Family etc.

The fact that an experienced MM player didn't like the MMr while the 15 y.o. felt it was different and enjoyed it can be explained by that neuromuscular memory. If the experienced MM player plays the MMr consistant and "rewires"the way the brain registers the shots for a long enough time the reverse will be noticed. I found myself saying and I'm sure many of us have said "I have this machine at home but this one plays completely different".

I respectfully disagree, they are all games meant to be played and enjoyed period. Owners of MM or MMr are BOTH winners.

If Stern has been contracted with the manufacturing of the MMr's and the manufacturing of the MMr's is slow, doesn't that mean that its Sterns' fault and not CGC/PPS?

This would have been a smarter move. Why reinvent the wheel.

I can take any game and give it a super good cleaning and waxing of the playfield, replace balls to new ones and wax them too and any game will be 5-10% faster easily.

I think we should work on thumbing down posts from people that have no dog in this race. Clearly this is news for the consumption of MMr owners and those that have purchased one and are still waiting. I don't understand why people who have absolutely no business commenting on this knowing full well that it does not effect or involve them in any way. Yet I'm astounded that they feel that their posts are somehow so important and profound that they need to share them with the rest of us. In the future I would hope that any news regarding MMr be posted in an owners/members thread where it actually benefits owners.

dogless in Socal eh Rob?

not really but you certainly have more at stake.

Maybe I will go into the Spiderman thread and break their balls knowing full well I have no business commenting on it at all. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

sorry I was thinking about dog racing

I was just on my way across the street to a corporation that I'm sure is conducting a meeting and I will sit in on it and comment on their business, whatever that may be. I will tell them that RobT feels that even though I have no dog in that race that I can still comment anyway.