MMr - Colorization Pricing and Availability...Finally!

Quoted from EricR:
Yes, I definitely agree that there are some who are very biased in the debate.

Simply put, you're mistaking degree of accuracy of measurement for whether something is scientific or not. Observations by the human eye are not scientifically invalid, especially in a situation where precision measurement is completely unnecessary. Again, the assertion is that there is not a signifcant noticeable difference between the two, if you're saying you need a precision instrument to measure the difference then my point is already proven.

Please tell me you have a non skilled job, you truly clueless.

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#407 8 years ago

LEV

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Everybody had skin in every game on pinside. So stop saying otherwise!!!

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#408 8 years ago

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Quoted from dhalem:
Based on this thread and everything else going down, I decided to ask for a refund from JJP as well. The response I got was interesting. I'd be curious to hear what others were told. Please feel free to message me privately.

The money JJP collected for MMRs last year went straight to CGC, so if Jack just straight refunds money, he's got to find a buyer for the one you walk out on. Unless he's got a waiting list of people, I can see how he'd hold you off to find out if he can get the money back out of CGC first.

#409 8 years ago

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Which machine is faster than the other is easily determined using calibrated eyeballs.

#410 8 years ago

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whitey

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Maybe they took the coin mech $ and invested it it colorization !

Let's see what they bring to the table .Hopefully by Halloween I have a game and Color. I don't dare say Xmas

#411 8 years ago

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Quoted from hawksfan:
Please tell me you have a non skilled job, you truly clueless.

Like your typing skills? Welcome to Pinside by the way, what was your last username before you got banned?

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#412 8 years ago

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Quoted from MrBally:
Which machine is faster than the other is easily determined using calibrated eyeballs.

if they are side by side I'd agree. Memories are flawed.

#413 8 years ago

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SuperPinball

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I can take any game and give it a super good cleaning and waxing of the playfield, replace balls to new ones and wax them too and any game will be 5-10% faster easily.

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#414 8 years ago

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hawksfan

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Quoted from centerflank:
Like your typing skills? Welcome to Pinside by the way, what was your last username before you got banned?

I'm not concerned with a misspelling on a forum, is still better than Pacak's.
No one, but who would you like to think I was, FF, early kaneda, the confederate flag post guy? I'm curious about your possible conspiracy theories. Are your also worried that black helicopters are following you?

#415 8 years ago

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MrBally

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There is an allowable tolerance for calibrated eyeballs

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#416 8 years ago

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hawksfan

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Quoted from SuperPinball:
I can take any game and give it a super good cleaning and waxing of the playfield, replace balls to new ones and wax them too and any game will be 5-10% faster easily.

Faster, yeah, 10%, that's quite a bit. Easy to test.

#417 8 years ago

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Quoted from hawksfan:
I'm not concerned with a misspelling on a forum, is still better than Pacak's.
No one, but who would you like to think I was, FF, early kaneda, the confederate flag post guy? I'm curious about your possible conspiracy theories. Are your also worried that black helicopters are following you?

Nothing beats those "EXpo will hAvE more gamEs thaN EVeR beFOrE" posts.

#418 8 years ago

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hawksfan

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Quoted from MrBally:
Nothing beats those "EXpo will hAvE more gamEs thaN EVeR beFOrE" posts.

Pacak, puts on a good show, advertises it like a central casting villain

#419 8 years ago

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Quoted from hawksfan:
I'm not concerned with a misspelling on a forum, is still better than Pacak's.
No one, but who would you like to think I was, FF, early kaneda, the confederate flag post guy? I'm curious about your possible conspiracy theories. Are your also worried that black helicopters are following you?

Are your also? What? Lol!

#420 8 years ago

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Quoted from hawksfan:
Are your also worried that black helicopters are following you?

No, but seasoned online folks can see right through people trying to hide under new accounts. The tells are always there... and in yours too.

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#421 8 years ago

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Quoted from epthegeek:
The money JJP collected for MMRs last year went straight to CGC, so if Jack just straight refunds money, he's got to find a buyer for the one you walk out on. Unless he's got a waiting list of people, I can see how he'd hold you off to find out if he can get the money back out of CGC first.

I'm not a lawyer, but I can't see why that's my problem. My financial relationship is with Jack, not CGC.

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#422 8 years ago

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Quoted from yancy:
I'm sorry you feel that way. I have a ton of respect for your opinions, and agree with you 99% of the time. Just feels like you're ranting on old evidence.

I can agree with the old evidence, although I think I only posted once about the proto gameplay.. rest of the ranting was directed towards Vid going all Rockwell on us (thanks MrBally!) about MMRr's flipper system

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#423 8 years ago

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hawksfan

Frozen

Quoted from flynnibus:
No, but seasoned online folks can see right through people trying to hide under new accounts. The tells are always there... and in yours too.

So the great and all powerful Oz has brought his crystal ball of delusions into focus. Sorry to break it to you, there's nothing to find.

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#424 8 years ago

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I'm working now on thumbs-downing everyone in this thread who's talking about anything other than colorization...

Edit: PM me if I made a mistake with your post and you want me to change it, there were a lot..........

Edit: Thanks for PMs / comments, updated. Looking forward to hearing more about the colorization of MMR.

#425 8 years ago

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Quoted from mcc:
I'm working now on thumbs-downing everyone in this thread who's talking about anything other than colorization...

I really hate what Ted Turner did to all those Classic B/W movies. The colorization just looked like crap to me.

#426 8 years ago

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hawksfan

Frozen

Quoted from CactusJack:
I really hate what Ted Turner did to all those Classic B/W movies. The colorization just looked like crap to me.

The people were way too green.

#427 8 years ago

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Quoted from mcc:
I'm working now on thumbs-downing everyone in this thread who's talking about anything other than colorization...

You don't get out much do you?

#428 8 years ago

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You guys are spoiled as shit. Just be happy that MMR's are even being made. Has it really come to the point, that if you can't bling out your machine with extra shit like color displays, it's not worth buying anymore? We did fine for 27 years without color DMD's and we were very content playing pinball with orange and some cases (red) DMD's only. Now it comes down to make or break because of it? WTF? Dubba you....tee.....ehph.

#429 8 years ago

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Quoted from metallik:
Mmm hmm... variable voltage power supplies in a pinball is something pretty new... surely CGC/PPS would be touting it as a feature, if it actually existed!

I thought Capcom's Kingpin had cpu controlled variable flipper strength? I read it somewhere. Perhaps other Capcom games had it wlso (BBB, Breakshot?)

#430 8 years ago

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Quoted from Warbound:
I thought Capcom's Kingpin had cpu controlled variable flipper strength? I read it somewhere. Perhaps other Capcom games had it wlso (BBB, Breakshot?)

In the final mode of Kingpin where you are raiding the vault, the flippers slowly get weaker and weaker until they die.

#431 8 years ago

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Quoted from Warbound:
I thought Capcom's Kingpin had cpu controlled variable flipper strength? I read it somewhere. Perhaps other Capcom games had it wlso (BBB, Breakshot?)

Yes it's true and from people that played it, they say it was a really cool feature. All capcoms have adjustable flipper strength, but none use it as a feature or mode.

#432 8 years ago

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hawksfan

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Quoted from Warbound:
I thought Capcom's Kingpin had cpu controlled variable flipper strength? I read it somewhere. Perhaps other Capcom games had it wlso (BBB, Breakshot?)

BS does have adjustable coils via the menu. I do not know what they do to enact the change, pulse length or something else

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#433 8 years ago

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Quoted from mcc:
I'm working now on thumbs-downing everyone in this thread who's talking about anything other than colorization...

I think we should work on thumbing down posts from people that have no dog in this race. Clearly this is news for the consumption of MMr owners and those that have purchased one and are still waiting. I don't understand why people who have absolutely no business commenting on this knowing full well that it does not effect or involve them in any way. Yet I'm astounded that they feel that their posts are somehow so important and profound that they need to share them with the rest of us. In the future I would hope that any news regarding MMr be posted in an owners/members thread where it actually benefits owners.

#434 8 years ago

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Quoted from SuperPinball:
I think we should work on thumbing down posts from people that have no dog in this race.

#435 8 years ago

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Quoted from mcc:
I'm working now on thumbs-downing everyone in this thread who's talking about anything other than colorization...

Quoted from SuperPinball:
I think we should work on thumbing down posts from people that have no dog in this race.

Perhaps you 2 can get together and find different uses for your thumbs.

#436 8 years ago

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Quoted from mcc:
I'm working now on thumbs-downing everyone in this thread who's talking about anything other than colorization...
Edit: PM me if I made a mistake with your post and you want me to change it, there were a lot..........

Here is another you can thumbs-down

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#437 8 years ago

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dogless in Socal eh Rob?

#438 8 years ago

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Quoted from SuperPinball:
I think we should work on thumbing down posts from people that have no dog in this race. Clearly this is news for the consumption of MMr owners and those that have purchased one and are still waiting. I don't understand why people who have absolutely no business commenting on this knowing full well that it does not effect or involve them in any way. Yet I'm astounded that they feel that their posts are somehow so important and profound that they need to share them with the rest of us. In the future I would hope that any news regarding MMr be posted in an owners/members thread where it actually benefits owners.

By that logic, does that mean the opinion of a person who bought two carries more weight than someone only buying one?

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#439 8 years ago

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Quoted from Skins:
By that logic, does that mean the opinion of a person who bought two carries more weight than someone only buying one?

not really but you certainly have more at stake.

#440 8 years ago

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Quoted from mcc:
I'm working now on thumbs-downing everyone in this thread who's talking about anything other than colorization...
Edit: PM me if I made a mistake with your post and you want me to change it, there were a lot..........

You missed a few of mine, including the one that started "This is OT, but ..."

#441 8 years ago

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Quoted from Skins:
By that logic, does that mean the opinion of a person who bought two carries more weight than someone only buying one?

Can we now claim we all have Skins in that game?

#442 8 years ago

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Quoted from SuperPinball:
dogless in Socal eh Rob?

I've said it before several times, and I will repeat it again: saying someone can't post an opinion because "they have no dog in the race" or "skin in the game" is one of the dumbest things posted on Pinside on a regular basis.

#443 8 years ago

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Quoted from RobT:
I've said it before several times, and I will repeat it again: saying someone can't post an opinion because "they have no dog in the race" is one of the dumbest things posted on Pinside on a regular basis.

But is it better or worse than "no skin in the game"?

#444 8 years ago

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Quoted from fosaisu:
But is it better or worse than "no skin in the game"?

You beat my edit!

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#445 8 years ago

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Quoted from RobT:
I've said it before several times, and I will repeat it again: saying someone can't post an opinion because "they have no dog in the race" is one of the dumbest things posted on Pinside on a regular basis.

Maybe I will go into the Spiderman thread and break their balls knowing full well I have no business commenting on it at all. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

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#446 8 years ago

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Quoted from Warbound:
I thought Capcom's Kingpin had cpu controlled variable flipper strength? I read it somewhere. Perhaps other Capcom games had it wlso (BBB, Breakshot?)

They do.. many games have coil strength settings (modern Sterns have an adjustment for all coils), but all do so by varying the length of time the coil is on.

#447 8 years ago

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And since we're talkin' dogs, isn't it usually either "no dog in this fight" or "no horse in this race"? Or has that been tidied up since Michael Vick made a name for himself? Maybe I'll start using "no horse in this fight."

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#448 8 years ago

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