Thanks
Just want there was 30 hours a day, for us addickts
Quoted from DEN:Thanks
Just want there was 30 hours a day, for us addickts
I've only ever played both machines on pinball arcade.......the real thing must be sweet.
Quoted from dendoc:As you know, some MMs for sale a over $ 10k in Aust.
Is the price justified purely due to rareness, or is the gameplay that good?
Be interested to hear if its worth spending that much.
No, go buy a nice little convertible car and see the world. No pin is worth that much.
Quoted from Mato:I've only ever played both machines on pinball arcade.......the real thing must be sweet.
Sweeeeeeat
I played MM at a friends house, dident really get the rules before i bought the game my self.
Before i only shot the castle gate to destroy em, thought i just should destroy the castle 5 times, but now i enjoy the ruleset, right now i am hunting/enjoying getting the 10 hurry up awards for extraball. Awsome game.
My rom is version 1.00 i have heard there is a C/beta version rom, that says the F word, does it improve the gameplay????
Have one on the way in 2 days so I hope so , never played one, but have 10 other pins already so, I figure it'll be great grail addition (it was wither that or a CC with the $ involved), but after going over available mods out there, and gameplay from various youtube posts, I think it will be popular with myself, my 11 year old daughter(who loves the Grand Lizard I have - simple game for someone of the PS/Xbox gen...), and any houseguests. The theme and gameplay should be great!
Quoted from Scorch:just consider it an investment rather than a purchase
Worst advice ever And I just picked up a MM. If you're spending this kind of money it better not be with the hope of getting your money back from it, look at prices on this thing recently and tell me if the increase feels natural and sustainable or if it's spikey and makes you unsure about future trends?
I say mine will never be for sale, and that my kids will have to fight over it when I'm dead. I'd like to think I'll keep it forever, but one thing I don't count on it getting more out of it than what I paid.
Quoted from Don1:Worst advice ever And I just picked up a MM. If you're spending this kind of money it better not be with the hope of getting your money back from it, look at prices on this thing recently and tell me if the increase feels natural and sustainable or if it's spikey and makes you unsure about future trends?
I say mine will never be for sale, and that my kids will have to fight over it when I'm dead. I'd like to think I'll keep it forever, but one thing I don't count on it getting more out of it than what I paid.
Agreed with above, I also have extensive NHL jersey collection, but its only worth what the market dictates...fortunately I only have one child(at least so far), so there shouldn't be a fight when I kick!
Quoted from dendoc:As you know, some MMs for sale a over $ 10k in Aust.
Is the price justified purely due to rareness, or is the gameplay that good?
Be interested to hear if its worth spending that much.
The price of 20k that a aussi pinsider is asking in a resent thread is as ridiculous in Australia as it is in the U.S. MM don't go for more in Australia if anything the opposite is true. This is bulshit hype created by one greedy dic.
it worth as much as someone at the time is willing to pay for it,
i work & deal in diecast collectable model cars, price fluctuates with supply & demand, a eg is a 1/18 scale that sold for 1-1.2k consistently, was good & the bar was set, until someone
( competitor ) Released the same car with better tooling blah blah, with the flood of extra examples now its worth 3-4 hundred tops, probably the true amount i guess,
whats this got to with MM worth the $$, well pray its not remade, because they will drop like a sack of spuds,
you buy it because you like it, price shouldn't be a major issue
Best of luck to all
Almost 3 years ago, I was apprehensive at sub 10k, original, shopped, super clean, with an extra new IPB playfield. In a parking lot, chasing away lookers at a pinball show. Pre-arranged deal.
Today, worth 14-15k plus on the market, without the IPB playfield. Tomorrow, who knows?
Is it worth it, I do not know. Are people paying it, yes.
Quoted from Breadfan:It shouldn't go for anymore than TZ or TAF. Maybe less if anything. Crazy how people have turned this game into something it's not.
Those "people" are called pinheads, and it's nothing new. MM has been at the top of the heap for a long time, regardless of whether you personally like the pin or not.
Quoted from Don1:Worst advice ever And I just picked up a MM. If you're spending this kind of money it better not be with the hope of getting your money back from it, look at prices on this thing recently and tell me if the increase feels natural and sustainable or if it's spikey and makes you unsure about future trends?
I say mine will never be for sale, and that my kids will have to fight over it when I'm dead. I'd like to think I'll keep it forever, but one thing I don't count on it getting more out of it than what I paid.
To each their own... Personally, when I purchase anything, I look at the cost of ownership. If I buy a $30,000 car, I know I will sell it in 3 years for $20,000 - the cost to me is $10,000 + upkeep. So I don't think of it as spending $30,000, I think of it as spending $10,000 for the car, and relocating some of my investments. My wife thought I was crazy when I bought my first pin for $700. but when I explained that it'll cost me $300 to fix up, and I can sell it at any time for $1500, the price argument is null (if you have sufficient free capital).
If I buy a MM, the price may be $14k, but I know that in a few years, it's not going to depreciate that much (and there is a chance it will appreciate), so if I assume in 3-4 years it will be worth $12k, then it only costs me $2k, but hopefully it will stay the same or increase. So maybe it's not "technically" an investment that you would expect to make a return on, but it is something that should hold most of it's value over time.
Quoted from Breadfan:It shouldn't go for anymore than TZ or TAF. Maybe less if anything. Crazy how people have turned this game into something it's not.
One of the top location earners since its release 15 years ago.
In demand since Day 1:
http://www.flippers.be/basics/101_medieval_madness_prices.html
Quoted from Scorch:If you have free cash it's a no-brainer... just consider it an investment rather than a purchase. If one becomes available within a reasonable distance, ideally in a very good or worse condition, you buy it, fix/upgrade it, play it for 1-5-10 years, and sell it when your done...
this is exactly what is wrong with this hobby and that's why you are now paying $9000 for a new pin.
It should never be an investment, it is a thing for your enjoyment. You should be able to afford it and justify it or not. Otherwise you just add your expenses to the price and artificially counter depreciation. People more "silly" than you pay more dollars to buy it from you and also add their real and imaginary expenses to the value and you have price hike which ultimately hurt you as well (and everybody else) because it happens to the other machines you'll likely to be buying in the present and future. The whole things is a zero sum game: no one gets richer, because you all use funds from price-hiked sales to pay more and more money for other machines, and all those machines should have retained same value (or decreased in value, in real world with healthy economic rules). You insert more funds into a system where countervalue of merchandise doesn't realistically match it. One day, someone refuses to be "the biggest fool" and starts the chain reaction of bubble burst. Just think of a housing market crisis repeated in pinball. It will happen unless you guys find way to match the pinball market by getting increasingly richer in the real world. Or else divorce lawyers would only profit.
Quoted from dendoc:Going to hold off on the purchase, because I keep hearing rumors of a re-run of the machine, and CC. Anyone else heard about this?
"Wayne's World, Wayne's World..."
Quoted from dendoc:Going to hold off on the purchase, because I keep hearing rumors of a re-run of the machine, and CC. Anyone else heard about this?
It would be sweet if this happened... Remake these pins and TAKE MY MONEY PLEASE!
If collectors stopped paying the silly money that they are selling for, it would drop back in price to other games of that era.
It doesn't make any sense, you could almost buy 2 new Stern pinballs for the price of this 15 year old pinball.
Hopefully when certain companies finalise the remake deal, we will all be able to buy a brand new one of these as a decent price.
Just to give you an idea of how long I've been in the hobby, I've had my MM for over 10+ years. I paid $4500 for it back in the day.It definitely is not worth the prices it commands. Granted, all of this comes down to your funds and how YOU wish to spend them, but I don't see this game being worth what it commands. It's a GREAT game, don't get me wrong, but not for the money people want for it.
I keep my games because I have a lot of fun with them, and each game brings back memories of years past. I guess it is much like car collecting...but rationale reasoning should always prevail, especially when it comes to money. But hey, we only live once.
Quite honestly, TO ME a game should not command more than 6-7k, but that's just my $.02 on the matter...
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