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Miss America not resetting

By Brewster007

3 years ago

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#1 3 years ago

BRH

Hi, I am at a loss why my machine is not resetting. I purchased it last year not going. I have cleaned contacts and resoldered some connections. The game lights up and makes the usual noises but the shutter goes from closed to open and no ball appears. If I open relay by hand, ball comes up but the playfield won't stay in the closed position. If I put credits on scorer and push the red button the machine advances odds but playfield won't close or put ball out. Can someone please help .(btw is an early 1957 model) Also when I trip coin switch no credits show on counter, and I can only trip coin switch just the once.

#2 3 years ago

YYY

baldtwit

Pinside member

Portola Valley, CA

7y 42,550 1,026

the first ball lifts when all 8 balls are in the ball trough. You need 1-1/8" diameter bingo balls in the game or the leftmost ball won't push down the 8th ball trough rollover and complete the circuit to the ball lifter.

there's other possible problems tho, so the easiest thing is reset the game and if no ball comes up, manually step up the timer unit once and see what happens. If still no ball lifts, the problem is elsewhere in the circuit.

the shutter closes when the second ball is lifted - timer unit steps to the second step - so you need to get the ball lifting working first.

what relay are you opening to make a ball lift?

#3 3 years ago

BRH

Brewster007

Inactive member

Bendigo

3y 14,750 13 6

Hi baldtwit, I have 8 balls in machine. The relay is underside next to shutter motor. The relay is allways energised is this right? I will try step up the timer unit and see what happens.

#4 3 years ago

WOZ

Pinballs

Pinside member

London

10y 52,800 992

Too many balls in the mechanism?

#5 3 years ago

BRH

Brewster007

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Bendigo

3y 14,750 13 6

Has to have 8, 5 for play and 3 extra balls

#6 3 years ago

BRH

Brewster007

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Bendigo

3y 14,750 13 6

Is there anyone in Australia, preferably Victoria that fixes these?

#7 3 years ago

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Ballypinball

Pinside member

Melbourne

19y 77,550 2,213 43

OP
Quoted from Brewster007:
Is there anyone in Australia, preferably Victoria that fixes these?

no as illegal in Victoria

#8 3 years ago

BRH

Brewster007

Inactive member

Bendigo

3y 14,750 13 6

Ok, that makes it hard

Quoted from Ballypinball:
no as illegal in Victoria

#9 3 years ago

YYY

baldtwit

Pinside member

Portola Valley, CA

7y 42,550 1,026

the relay on the bottom of the playfield is the lifter start relay. When that's powered, the ball lift motor will NOT turn on.

lifting the ball gate flap at the top of the runway/shooter lane should unpower the lifter start relay. However, if the lifter start relay is powering as soon as you turn on the game, the only thing it can be (except a short) is the ball runway switch is stuck closed.

the ball runway switch is under the rollover wire directly in front of the shooter. Usually what happens is someone lowers the playfield onto the front of the cabinet and mashes the switch blades together. The runway switch should only be closed when a ball is sitting on the rollover.

#10 3 years ago

BRH

Brewster007

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Bendigo

3y 14,750 13 6

Quoted from baldtwit:
the relay on the bottom of the playfield is the lifter start relay. When that's powered, the ball lift motor will NOT turn on.
lifting the ball gate flap at the top of the runway/shooter lane should unpower the lifter start relay. However, if the lifter start relay is powering as soon as you turn on the game, the only thing it can be (except a short) is the ball runway switch is stuck closed.
the ball runway switch is under the rollover wire directly in front of the shooter. Usually what happens is someone lowers the playfield onto the front of the cabinet and mashes the switch blades together. The runway switch should only be closed when a ball is sitting on the rollover.

Thank you, Thank you , Thank you. It was the runway switch. I have been working on this for 2 days , pulled apart timer and cleaned and reset, followed trough switches and cleaned, checked for voltages at cams and relay's. Now I've got some tweaks like scorer not working properly and magic lines adjustment, but at least it's working and I can check other parts. When I come to USA again I'll send you a message and shout you lunch.

4 months later

#11 2 years ago

BAE

Cruiser

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Kotara

7y 31,800 25 23

Hi, In Newcastle NSW there is an expert with Bingos, he has been working on them for over 25 years

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