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Mirco Playfields - WARNING for potential buyers

By Kobaja

3 years ago


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Post #583 Mirco failure photos. Posted by ForceFlow (2 years ago)

Post #703 Alternate Playfield Restoration service Posted by petebest (1 year ago)

Post #795 List of Mirco playfield issues by HEP Posted by High_End_Pins (1 year ago)

Post #896 Response form PPS concerning playfield issues Posted by PPS (1 year ago)

Post #940 Response from Mirco Posted by Highclasspinball (1 year ago)

Post #1045 Peeling clearcoat Posted by Warzard (1 year ago)

Post #1096 quicksliver clearcoat failure under posts Posted by gdonovan (1 year ago)

Post #1097 Black Knight clearcoat failure under posts Posted by wolffcub (1 year ago)

Post #1119 Example of another playfield company standing behind their products Posted by ForceFlow (1 year ago)

Post #1123 Response from Mirco Posted by Highclasspinball (1 year ago)


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#278 2 years ago

I have done two playfield swaps with Mirco fields. First was a Marilyn Taxi, no problems what so ever, eventual buyer loved how it played and looked. 2nd was a Fish Tales. So far so good, Mirco has expanded the pre-drilled holes slightly based on feedback and the dimples for other things are nice and large which makes screwing into the wood easy. Ironically the WMS field I am replacing had pooling all along the left side of the boat ramp into the pop bumper nest. So that isn't a novel issue either. I'm thankful we have the parts. Are they perfect - nope. But way better than blown out games any day of the week.

1 year later
#693 1 year ago

It isn't every playfield. yes people have had issues and it sucks but I have installed 6 or so from Mirco and not had a problem with alignment, fitting in the cab, or clearcoat issues. Many of these playfields are now being used frequently in tournaments and on location with no issues.

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#1152 1 year ago
Quoted from Warzard:

30 years ago, you were going to the store and buying Nintendo games with this seal on the box. Games were not cheap but validated and the quality of the game was hardly challenged by Nintendo. At the end, it was better for all the players: Nintendo market image, customer with good product and so on.
It would be great if PPS could really challenge Mirco with a better product and customer service and challenge him to not let him drop product without any support such as the Totan kit.
Also, I do agreed with the comment that pinside is far from the only place we talk pinball and Mirco, you can hear on angry customers and comment regarding the playfield on other places such as flipejuke, facebook groups, flippermarket and so on...
On my side, I have no pinball friends still ok to buy a Mirco playfield anymore. JJP might still be an exception since the pins are really apealing.[quoted image]

All that seal meant was the game went through Nintendo's Lot check and was officially authorized to run on Nintendo systems. That process did not review the game for quality or bugs in any way. Lot Check confirmed compatibility on the target system, button usage standards, naming standards in the manual, and compliance with at the time Nintendo's rules on Religion, Sex, Violence and Drugs/Smoking/alcohol in games. It was there to try to get everyone publishing their games using nintendo's cartridge, ROM supplier, box manufacturer etc. See Tengen for games published outside of the "Nintendo Seal of Quality" and the subsequent law suit from nintendo to try and prevent game publishers from avoiding the lot check procedure and subsequently Nintendo getting their cut from manufacturing the game.

If you wanted your games' actual quality of game play reviewed and Nintendo's suggestions for improvement that was a separate paid process that would submit the game through NOA Mario Club and/or the early iteration of the Treehouse.

3 weeks later
#1197 1 year ago

I think a lot of the reasons we see many more issues now than we did in the DiamondPlate era is the clearcoats are now too thick. Any clear is going to chip if struck repeatedly on edge (scoops, saucers, ball return troughs, etc.) Why not go back to the same thickness as DiamondPlate and see if things improve?

#1202 1 year ago
Quoted from mbeardsley:

Umm...no. Nintendo (and Sony and Sega) all performed extensive bug testing on all games before they got approved for manufacturing (at least in the cartridge era). I went though that process many times, and every game (but one) of ours had to go through multiple rounds of their testing before we got approval.
They would check for not just "policy" stuff, but all sorts of bugs (like being able to get through a wall). They would classify bugs as A, B, or C. "A" bugs had to be fixed (crashes, major bugs, and "policy" stuff), "B" bugs were ones that resulted in poor gameplay, and "C" bugs were suggestions for improvement. You could mostly ignore their "C" bugs if you wanted to, most (if not all) of the "B" bugs had to be fixed.
This was all separate from Mario Club, which was optional, and usually done with very early builds so you could get their opinions on the game in general.

Patently false. Think of how large the testing departments would need to be to test several hundred games per year. Without violating my NDA I can't post the exact description of what lot check at Nintendo did, but I can guarantee you it did not involve bug testing each game that came through. Of course your publisher hopefully tested each game submitted to the extent you described above - unless you were LJN... Again the Nintendo seal of Quality served 2 purposes. 1) To verify that the software was compatible with the hardware and met certain functional and content guidelines. 2) To limit the number of 3rd party releases on the NES system to 5 titles to avoid what happened to Atari and the subsequent video game crash. The publishing limits were gradually relaxed over time to what you see now on the eShops.

#1217 1 year ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

Stern seems to have little problem churning out games with few (not zero) problems. Same for CGC.

Thinner clearcoats?

9 months later
#2245 84 days ago
Quoted from Jigs:

Here is a Funhouse that came to me last week.
The person who bought it paid $8000 from a local guy that touted it as an 8.5 out of 10. Poor person was scammed
Burnt connectors, battery damaged cpu, stripped Rudy gears,non shopped and slapped together on this beauty of a Mirco PF
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How many plays on the funhouse? - those insert pics looks like thousands with a rusty ball...

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