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Mirco Playfields - WARNING for potential buyers

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#251 24 days ago
Quoted from JodyG:

He's giving a 9AM presentation at Expo this year...that would be a good time to ask him in person.

So Mirco (translation n English means Poor Quality) is traveling form the Fatherland to give a presentation at 9am ...... some advise.... save the money on airfare and hotel and put it into online course in customer service! NO ONE will be there at 9am on a Saturday!

I almost wonder if JJP is advising Mr. PQ that he really should go to try and do damage control (if so ... too late)

#252 24 days ago

Here.
is a photo of a PF from one of my clients, find the mistake.
obviously, the PF has been replaced.
as a professional i can't understand the business sense of mirco.
there are complaints with us that are reported on facebook with copies of SMS, mirco openly laughs and responds that all faults or problems are normal or the fault of the customer.
it's downright unreal
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#253 24 days ago
Quoted from F-2NIRO:

Here.
is a photo of a PF from one of my clients, find the mistake.
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obviously, the PF has been replaced.
as a professional i can't understand the business sense of mirco.
there are complaints with us that are reported on facebook with copies of SMS, mirco openly laughs and responds that all faults or problems are normal or the fault of the customer.
it's downright unreal
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That hole is an extra outlane to make the game harder

Baffling how it could pass quality control.

#254 24 days ago
Quoted from F-2NIRO:

Here.
is a photo of a PF from one of my clients, find the mistake.
obviously, the PF has been replaced.
as a professional i can't understand the business sense of mirco.
there are complaints with us that are reported on facebook with copies of SMS, mirco openly laughs and responds that all faults or problems are normal or the fault of the customer.
it's downright unreal
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The gobble hole makes a come back! How this was ever shipped to a customer is baffling.

#255 24 days ago
Quoted from Flynnyfalcon:

Man!!! What I would to do meet this clown face to face.......

You wouldn't, he's like a politician - always defensive, never gives a straight answer, always someone else's fault and zero chance of admitting any liability.

#256 24 days ago
Quoted from mufcmufc:

You wouldn't, he's like a politician - always defensive, never gives a straight answer, always someone else's fault and zero chance of admitting any liability.

My experience exactly. Just flat out refused to acknowledge any fault at his end. Was beyond frustrating.

Would simply never put another dollar in his pocket and am happy to go out of my way to warn others. Just a dirty shark.

#257 24 days ago

I’d like to see him booed off stage as soon as he starts the excuses.

#258 24 days ago
Quoted from Lhyrgoif:

That hole is an extra outlane to make the game harder
Baffling how it could pass quality control.

There is no quality control at any stage:
-No control of artwork before mass production
-No real quality control after production

I am sure he believes that digital print and clearcoat by robot means error proof production. It's clearly not.

#259 24 days ago
Quoted from Davi:

There is no quality control at any stage:
-No control of artwork before mass production
-No real quality control after production
I am sure he believes that digital print and clearcoat by robot means error proof production. It's clearly not.

Which would probably be true if they had someone competent controlling the robots. These look more like user errors over robot errors.

#260 24 days ago
Quoted from explosiveegg:

Which would probably be true if they had someone competent controlling the robots. These look more like user errors over robot errors.

As devil's advocate, I can see that MMR playfield with the 'inlane gobble hole' a potential error in one of the cutting arms, over inexperience/user error. But everything else I've seen, including the 9-ball playfield vectorization, is either incompetence or very rushed ("get it out, noone will notice!") work. Same with CPR in a lot of cases (read: Meteor playfield and the vectorization, missing text, etc.)

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#261 13 days ago

Add my name to the list of potential buyers who have changed their mind thanks to this thread. I was planning on placing my order for a Gorgar playfield this morning but decided to ping a few people who I noticed had expressed interest in purchasing them and do a search for Mirco, as I was unfamiliar with them.

#262 13 days ago
Quoted from KoolFingers:I’d like to see him booed off stage as soon as he starts the excuses.

Here's the best non-confrontational thing to...

When he gets on the stage everyone start doing the 'slow clap' and don't stop until he walks off.
No laughter or shouts, just the slow clap.

"Noun
slow clap (plural slow claps)

A form of clapping in which audience members clap slowly, with long intervals between claps, as a form of heckling and to show that they disapprove of a performer, speaker, etc."

#263 9 days ago
Quoted from miracleman:

Here's the best non-confrontational thing to...
When he gets on the stage everyone start doing the 'slow clap' and don't stop until he walks off.
No laughter or shouts, just the slow clap.
"Noun
slow clap (plural slow claps)
A form of clapping in which audience members clap slowly, with long intervals between claps, as a form of heckling and to show that they disapprove of a performer, speaker, etc."

Never heard of that but sound like it would do the trick too.

#264 9 days ago
Quoted from Davi:

How it's possible? No minimum warranty defined in US?

Because the US government doesnt give a shit about you.

#265 9 days ago

He backed out .What a shame was going to try for a autograph .

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#266 9 days ago
Quoted from Kkoss24:

He backed out .What a shame was going to try for a autograph .
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did he back out or did he have to cancel? I know the EU has restrictions on flying to the US.

#267 9 days ago
Quoted from meSz:

I know the EU has restrictions on flying to the US

Actually the US has restrictions on letting EU citizens in. No wonder: The US is a much higher risk category on all values. Thanks for protecting us.

Business flights are not affected however, so it would have had to be Mirco refusing (very politely, I'm sure), which is completely in line with his general attitude. Mirco first, everyone else second. Or third. Or whatever.

#268 9 days ago

He knows he was gonna get just hammered so I’m sure he backed out.

#269 9 days ago
Quoted from Wmsfan:

He knows he was gonna get just hammered so I’m sure he backed out.

I thought the same originally but knowing Pinside NO ONE would have the courage to say anything in person.

All Mirco has to say is “I am making (an in demand) playfield” and everyone will praise him.

#270 9 days ago

Surely the original screens for the hot WPC titles weren't destroyed? Where are they? Why can't we get more proper silkscreened playfields like Buthamburg/Peter makes? Did CPR have the original screens for their TAF repros? I know it's easier to digitally print them but I think there is a big market for new silkscreened quality WPC playfields.

#271 7 days ago
Quoted from meSz:

I thought the same originally but knowing Pinside NO ONE would have the courage to say anything in person

It’d be like the confrontation w Kevin Kulek regarding Predator which ended up being a pinsider following him around at an auction and getting a picture of his back.

#272 7 days ago
Quoted from lancestorm:

It’d be like the confrontation w Kevin Kulek regarding Predator which ended up being a pinsider following him around at an auction and getting a picture of his back.

Maybe someone here can beat him with a keyboard around his head and shoulders?

#273 7 days ago
Quoted from amxfc3s:

Surely the original screens for the hot WPC titles weren't destroyed?

The screens were likely destroyed during the course of normal factory use.

The *films* used to create the screens--some of those still exist.

Quoted from amxfc3s:

Did CPR have the original screens for their TAF repros?

Yes, they posted on Pinside about it, as well as listed that fact on their website.

#274 7 days ago

New MFGs should offer some LTD versions of their tables screened. I’d pay a premium for that

#275 6 days ago
Quoted from meSz:

did he back out or did he have to cancel? I know the EU has restrictions on flying to the US.

Maybe the the US has restrictions on letting crooks in?

#276 6 days ago
Quoted from Flynnyfalcon:

Maybe the the US has restrictions on letting crooks in?

We don't call them crooks here, we call them politicians!

Can't call Mirco a crook. Guy makes a product and sells it to willingly buyers .... just the product is of poor quality!

#277 6 days ago

When you buy a product you don’t willingly buy it to fail. And in Mircos case, I don’t think the people were aware of the shitty quality prior to buying. On the other hand, Steffen is aware (whether he’s willing to admit it) he’s turning out a shitty product and that’s a crook

#278 6 days ago

I have done two playfield swaps with Mirco fields. First was a Marilyn Taxi, no problems what so ever, eventual buyer loved how it played and looked. 2nd was a Fish Tales. So far so good, Mirco has expanded the pre-drilled holes slightly based on feedback and the dimples for other things are nice and large which makes screwing into the wood easy. Ironically the WMS field I am replacing had pooling all along the left side of the boat ramp into the pop bumper nest. So that isn't a novel issue either. I'm thankful we have the parts. Are they perfect - nope. But way better than blown out games any day of the week.

#279 6 days ago
Quoted from Xenon75:

Ironically the WMS field I am replacing had pooling all along the left side of the boat ramp into the pop bumper nest.

Hmmmm... I'd like to see that as I've never had anything resembling pooling on any of the Williams/Bally games I've owned or worked on over the years, and that's been a lot of them.

#280 5 days ago
Quoted from Flynnyfalcon:

Maybe the the US has restrictions on letting crooks in?

Only because the government doesn’t like competition

#281 5 days ago

Hi
Please can someone let me know the best way to contact micro?, iv ordered a Dracula playfield a few weeks ago, and would like to know when iam getting it.
Finding it very difficult to find any contact information.
Thankyou

#282 5 days ago

The contact information is provided at mircoplayfields.com. Click „legal notice“ at the bottom bar.

#283 5 days ago
Quoted from Wanderers:

Hi
Please can someone let me know the best way to contact micro?, iv ordered a Dracula playfield a few weeks ago, and would like to know when iam getting it.

Find a retailer, who sells his stuff. I can tell you one in Germany, who is super reliable. Then cancel with mirco directly and buy through the retailer. You will have more pressure on Mirco and he gets less margin. Win Win. Contact me via PN if interested. Whatever you do directly, he won't give a sheet.

And if you do cancel, tell him how you got the idea

#284 5 days ago

Just wanted to say I was reluctant to order with this forum, but didn't find better alternative in canada.
I ordered directly from mirco by contacting him on facebook and recived quickly my indie playfields, holes perfectly aligned, very good polish on the clearcoat (I still clearcoated over it as recommended by a lot of people to be safe...)
I didn't have to deal with customer service since I was satisfied with my order. Maybe I was just lucky !

#285 5 days ago

The fact you had to clearcoat over a brand new Playfield doesn’t sound like a great experience to me. Isn’t CPR in Canada?

#286 5 days ago
Quoted from thechakapakuni:

The fact you had to clearcoat over a brand new Playfield doesn’t sound like a great experience to me. Isn’t CPR in Canada?

I had to re-clear my brand new Mirco playfield, it was soft 6+ months after production. Micro believed that was perfectly acceptable

#287 5 days ago

So is it agreed that CPR is far superior? I recently bought CPR’s last WW and then read a couple horror stories about a previous run. I am yet to do anything with it but was very discouraged by what I read.

I don’t need these to be flawless. But it’s disappointing on all accounts that there seem to be so many issues with repro companies out there. Hoping I got lucky with my purchase.

#288 5 days ago

They both have issues. The German fellas seem to have theirs worked out though.

#289 4 days ago
Quoted from dmacy:

The German fellas seem to have theirs worked out though.

yeah the German fella does until the next JJP release. Not to mention the other titles he's reproducing and people are complaining about.

#290 4 days ago
Quoted from thechakapakuni:

The fact you had to clearcoat over a brand new Playfield doesn’t sound like a great experience to me. Isn’t CPR in Canada?

CPR doesn't do IJ playfields.

#291 4 days ago
Quoted from meSz:

yeah the German fella does until the next JJP release. Not to mention the other titles he's reproducing and people are complaining about.

No I’m talking about Buthamburg guys.

https://www.buthamburg.de/en/playfields

Ron kruzman can give an accurate assessment. He has seen all of them. Good and bad.

#292 4 days ago
Quoted from jsa2145:

I didn't have to deal with customer service since I was satisfied with my order. Maybe I was just lucky !

Did the gap issue on the insert get fixed ... where the girl looks like she's is missing a tooth?

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