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MIRCO Playfields dodges all questions at TPF.

By frankmac

2 years ago


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“Will you buy a game with a MIRCO playfield again”

  • Never 161 votes
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  • Yes 39 votes
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  • He was a jerk at TPF 78 votes
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#207 2 years ago

While not personally impacted, I do understand the disdain for the situation with Mirco. However, all of this negativity and bashing is really getting to be off putting. Again, I recognize that many have been impacted and want to express their opinion, nothing wrong with that. However, what I've not see are constructive ideas and/or cooperative measures to address the issues. I'm not saying they are not out there, but the negative posts are far outweighing anything constructive I've seen.

Again, I don't have any firsthand knowledge of the issues or Mirco's response, but it's obvious those on the defensive are putting up a wall as a result of the hostility. Maybe it's time for a new approach if those looking for answers/accountability are ever going to get it.

#209 2 years ago
Quoted from meSz:

Interesting post. First question I would like to ask is ... why is it anyone's responsibility to come up with ideas or even a solution, shouldn't that be on the manufacturer?
Also, how do you give ideas/solutions to a manufacturer that simply states "there's nothing wrong"? I think this is the reason you see so much negativity as Mirco feels nothing is wrong. So you can suggest all the ideas/solutions you want, not going to work!
Also just a reminder, the one time I seen Mirco ask for input on one of his playfields, think it was EBD, people provided input. There were a lot of errors on the pf, so many that he fixed some then released the pf with errors instead of fixing them.

I guess my point is multi-fold:
- It's okay to vent and complain when you've been harmed, I have no issue with this
- Some people naturally put up walls/defenses when confronted, which appears to be what Mirco is doing
- When this occurs, all of the complaining in the world will not change their actions/response
- At this point, somebody needs to come up with a more creative approach and/or a more impactful way to facilitate meaningful change

I don't have the answers, but as an outsider it seems like the grief process needs to move beyond complaining and personal attacks, to something that evokes/demands a meaningful response from the responsible party. If someone is not going to take accountability on their own, then like it or not the responsibility falls upon those harmed to find a way to make it happen.

#221 2 years ago
Quoted from gjm:

Lets say you were "personally impacted" on your $10k-$12k pin and you ask both Micro and Jack about the issue's happening to you and they both tell you:
1- Micro: "there's nothing wrong here"
2- Jack: "Playfield issues are the owner's fault, here's a pack of washers"
So of course you are going to get a slew of negative posts because both parties are ignoring you and many others on the issues. Plus, how can you make a
"constructive idea" when they refuse to acknowledge it in the first place.

Ultimately, BMW time is over - everyone put their heads together and figure out what can actually be done about the problem and take action. Personally, if I was impacted by it I would be relentless, but venting in an open forum is just the first step.

#229 2 years ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

Are you talking lawsuits? That's always a possibility but it's a lot more expensive and time-consuming than complaining on a forum.

I don't know if legal action is the answer or not (I did not intend to imply anything specific). Sometimes it's about getting to the right people who do have influence over someone and persuading them to action. Sometimes it's figuring out how to impact them financially to the point where they take action. Sometimes it's about their reputation suffering to the point where they take action. Sometimes it may be a combination or some other means entirely (including legal action).

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