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Why Mirco? Seems like you are being a bully? Is John producing something you are and taking money from you? I am not sure you can legally stop someone from making something just by sending an email claiming anything you want with no proof? I am no lawyer though. Money vs. passion and love, too bad.
Why do anything? No proof was given, no order to stop delivered. Just an email from a butt hurt fella, nothing more at this time. John don’t waste your time until it’s needed. If he wants to stop you the burden is on him right?
Quoted from SuperPinball:The trouble is that there is a lot of time and money involved in making playfields and backglasses. The last thing he needs is to make a batch of 100 playfields only to get a cease and desist order at that time. I agree though that John needs to be proactive and contact Gary Stern directly and work out a deal with him. He may also consider approaching another company operating in Canada with a lot of clout such as Player 1 that has a licence to sell all Stern product to see if something can be worked out.
Right, then he would need to give the Pf’s away for free with the purchase of an autographed picture of himself $799.00
Quoted from Whysnow:it is sad. Mirco is known for the crappiest quality playfields in the industry.
Ok, not that I am a fan at all about what Mirco is doing here at all, they are not known for that. When I think Mirco I don’t think crappy playfield. I think decent playfields. Their clear sucks but in my opinion every PF CPR or Mirco should be cleared by a professional otherwise they will all turn to crap. Mirco’s usually turns to crap first, again from what I have seen. I personally think Peter in Hamburg makes the best all around playfields. I myself am no expert but my best buddy is.
Quoted from Whysnow:John, I suggest you just write out what was sent to you.
It is worthwhile for the community to see the threatening Mirco has done and things he said.
Man Hilton, I am just disagreeing with a lot of what you have to say today. I think understand what you mean and agree this needs to be talked about. I don’t think typing up the PM and disrespecting what Robin has said is the way to do it. John can sum it up in his words.
Quoted from Highclasspinball:Hi All,
my apologies for any trouble I have caused. It was not my intention to start something like this and to be honest I did not know much about John's background before. Of course I'm not interested that someone looses their money, for example the prepayments which were made. I think there are enough people out there who are harmed by lost prepayments...
Nevertheless it is not ok to produce parts with violationg copyrights. We have seen that on cabinet art before as well. I think it is easy to understand that I'm interested to have equal start positions for anybody. I try to do it right and get permission and pay royalties per item. If a 3rd party is involved I get their permission as well as any upcoming lawsuit would get really expensive. I would not want to see Disney or Universal for example showing up and fight for their royalty. As a company it is your turn to make sure you do it right.
Any lawyer cost extra money. In my opinion this is not the best option, especially for small businesses. Thatwhy I reached out direct without using any lawyer right away.
No matter what happened it is not allowed to publish any private massages without permission.
Aynway I will not take any action right now and let it go.
Regarding any double effort for some playfields - I'm open for any suggestions, Kevin has my contact info - we can talk and see how we might come together...
Regards,
Mirco
What action can you take? Ok, other than sending an email or PM?
Quoted from Tommy-dog:I need a Stern Lightning playfield and I don't care if it is a CPR, Mirco or a JG reproduction. I just need the playfield.
So you are happy as long as you get what you want no matter who it comes from or how? I don’t know, things change for me when I see behavior such as this.
Mirco’s apology is garbage in my opinion. If he would of posted his Pm, owned it, and admitted poor behavior, manipulation, etc.. I myself would like to think I would’ve forgiven him.
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