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Midway Rife Gallery Restore - Previous Rat Mansion

By edward472

4 years ago


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    #201 2 years ago

    Cabinet

    The vinyl finally came in this weekend and it's perfect. I was surprised because I didn't expect it to get across the pond that quick. I'll try to get better pics of the inclusions.

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    #202 2 years ago

    Obligatory clown update.

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    5 months later
    #203 1 year ago

    Progress is slow, but progress is progress. I finished detailing the cheeks. Im finally happy with his face. I finished the first pass of the collar. I just need to do a little detailing, fix some gaps, etc. I'm trying not to be overly anal about how it looks and get it done, but I also don't want to rush and the quality suffer. I'm trying to find a good balance knowing it's never going to be perfect.

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    #204 1 year ago

    Lots of progress and one set back. I finished most of the hair. Then I realized I filled some of the voids in the collar too much making them almost flush. And there was a hard edge at the bottom of the collar. On the original it tapered at the bottom probably to prevent the pellets from breaking the edges off. I tried to use a dremel to hollow the voids some and some sandpaper to taper the bottom and completely screwed it up. A couple of minutes with the die grinder and a half an hour later I'm half way to a finished properly tapered and filled collar. At least I'm getting faster at it.... I promise to get back to the cabinet and wiring when it's not 100+ outside.

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    3 weeks later
    #205 1 year ago

    A few more minor fixes and we'll be ready to cast

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    #206 1 year ago

    Nice work,
    Very impressed !

    #207 1 year ago
    Quoted from freddy:

    Nice work,
    Very impressed !

    Thank you

    #208 1 year ago

    This is why I love this site. A fellow consider messaged me about a Midway Shooting Gallery awhile back that they were restoring. We got to talking and he ended up sending me this in the mail. All the correct sized tubing I could need for my game!

    Rich, if you are reading this, you are a class act and great people!

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    #209 1 year ago

    Cabinet Wiring

    I took advantage of the long weekend to do the rest of the fixes to the wiring that connects the front part of the game to the back box and replaced the power cord while I had the iron out.
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    Shouldn't be to much longer on the clown

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    #210 1 year ago

    Finally done! Hopefully I'll be casting next week

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    #211 1 year ago

    What will the final version be made of?

    #212 1 year ago
    Quoted from yaksplat:

    What will the final version be made of?

    I'll be casting it in resin. I'm shooting for a shore hardness of about 90.

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    #213 1 year ago

    See below

    #214 1 year ago
    Quoted from edward472:

    This is why I love this site. A fellow consider messaged me about a Midway Shooting Gallery awhile back that they were restoring. We got to talking and he ended up sending me this in the mail. All the correct sized tubing I could need for my game!
    Rich, if you are reading this, you are a class act and great people!
    [quoted image]

    Edward, Can you PLEASE find out where that tubing came from? I have not found a great one yet. Thanks!

    #215 1 year ago
    Quoted from LarryB:

    Edward, Can you PLEASE find out where that tubing came from? I have not found a great one yet. Thanks!

    Yes please share. In need of the tubing too (and a clown!)

    #216 1 year ago
    Quoted from LarryB:

    Edward, Can you PLEASE find out where that tubing came from? I have not found a great one yet. Thanks!

    It came from United States Plastic Corp. He had to special order it and buy a minimum of 25'. At the time there was an 8 week lead time on having it made.

    #217 1 year ago
    Quoted from dsuperbee:

    Yes please share. In need of the tubing too (and a clown!)

    I had to put the project on pause for a minute. I am still planning on casting them. My back deck needed to be replaced and I don't have the $10,000 to pay someone to replace it. So, now I build decks too apparently

    #218 1 year ago
    Quoted from edward472:

    I had to put the project on pause for a minute. I am still planning on casting them. My back deck needed to be replaced and I don't have the $10,000 to pay someone to replace it. So, now I build decks too apparently

    Welcome to the club! I had to put my white lightning restore on hold to build a deck too, but mine put me out $25 K! And I'm doing the demo and finish work myself!!
    Sometimes it sux to have a contractors license!
    Look forward to seeing that clown when you get back to it.
    B

    #219 1 year ago
    Quoted from edward472:

    It came from United States Plastic Corp. He had to special order it and buy a minimum of 25'. At the time there was an 8 week lead time on having it made.

    Any possibility you can connect me with your source person? I've checked the website and there are a variety of tubes that would fit so not really sure which is correct. Thanks! It appears others would like to know as well, possibly some of us can share an order.

    #220 1 year ago
    Quoted from LarryB:

    Any possibility you can connect me with your source person? I've checked the website and there are a variety of tubes that would fit so not really sure which is correct. Thanks! It appears others would like to know as well, possibly some of us can share an order.

    This is the tubing that was purchased. Your mileage may vary

    https://www.usplastic.com/catalog/item.aspx?itemid=29132

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    #221 1 year ago

    Clown

    I know a lot of you had "Midway Rifle Gallery Update" on your Christmas list...... Better late then never! I received some walking around money from Christmas and a day off work. I'm not going to go into a lot of detail on this process. Lots of places to look it up.

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    The cotton candy was awful,but I like using the containers in the shop

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    I closed any seam or hole between the clown and the clay and added registration marks. Forgot to take pics. If there is a seam by using a two part mold, I'm shooting for it to be as far in the back as possible.

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    This mix has a 1 : 1 mix ratio and a pot life of 40 mins. Easy to mix and lots of time to work with it. I don't have a pressure pot to remove the air bubbles. So, I threw it on top of a running dryer for a bit to get the air bubbles to rise and then did a ridiculously high pour. Between those two hopefully there won't be in bubbles in the mold. There is only enough material to make 1 mold

    First half

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    The cure time is 4 hours.

    #222 1 year ago

    Clown

    4 hours later. Looks ok. Little uneven. Mixed up the second batch and put a release agent on the first half so that they don't stick together. Dryer. High pour. Fingers crossed

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    #223 1 year ago

    Clown

    Bad news is the release agent didn't work and the two halves fused. No idea why. Had to cut the little guy out of there. Good news is the mold looks awesome. No bubbles. Details are all there. If I can get the two halves to not fuse, the rest of my current process looks like it will work.

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    #224 1 year ago

    What mold release did you use,? Smooth on is hit or miss, can't remember the brand I use off the top of my head but I'll snap a pic next time I'm in my shop. I've had the same issues with smooth on releases.
    The wax type that goes on like car polish works best
    B

    #225 1 year ago

    Here's what I use, never had issues with either of these.

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    #226 1 year ago
    Quoted from ZooDude:

    Here's what I use, never had issues with either of these.[quoted image]

    I tried to DIY some with dish soap and isopropyl alcohol. I think I got the ratio horribly wrong. I might try one of those. Thanks

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    #227 11 months ago

    I know it's been awhile, but I'm still making progress. Albeit slowly. I received a few packages in the mail that should help get us moving.

    First up my man dudah sent me these very nicely done Midway repro butt plates. This game originally had these butt plates except without the Midway logo, but I kinda like them with the logo and mine is completely gone. Thanks again man!
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    It just so happens Dixieland Pinball had a Midway Shooting Gallery recently that's cabinet was toast and he was parting out. I grabbed a spare coil for the vacuum mech(very hard to find), the inside game labels and hardware to mount them( I'll be using these as an example to reproduce the cards with correct verbiage for this game), and the most important piece..... Tiny springs!! Way back when I was doing the duck target mech, I destroyed one of the springs that snaps the target down when you shoot it. The same spring are used for the duck targets on a Midway Shooting Gallery and thankfully now I have a few

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    #228 11 months ago

    Attempt #2 at making a mold. The last one was good except that it fused, but I wasted all of material by making it too large. This one is smaller and more standard shape. There is a good bit of space between some these Legos, but the silicon viscosity should be enough to keep it out of the cracks. Fingers crossedPXL_20230331_150007870 (resized).jpgPXL_20230331_150007870 (resized).jpg

    #229 11 months ago

    Looking good. No major leaks and the silicone setup nicely. Now for the other side

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    #230 6 months ago

    Soon....PXL_20230816_190513393 (resized).jpgPXL_20230816_190513393 (resized).jpg

    #231 6 months ago

    That's awesome. So willing to buy a clown if you decide to sell them.

    #232 6 months ago
    Quoted from dsuperbee:

    That's awesome. So willing to buy a clown if you decide to sell them.

    Noted. I'm at least making a few for this project. I'm still toying with the idea of doing a small, one time, you-had-to-be-there run. I'm just not sure I can make them at a low enough price point that would make sense for me and the people potentially buying them.

    #233 6 months ago

    Looks good, looks like you figured out the mold release issue, now pray for no air bubbles!
    Tappa tap tap
    B

    #234 6 months ago

    My Ghost town is missing butt plate not sure they even came with one.
    Would like to get one and put one on does anyone know where I can get one or who reproduces them thanks in advance.

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    #235 6 months ago
    Quoted from edward472:

    Noted. I'm at least making a few for this project. I'm still toying with the idea of doing a small, one time, you-had-to-be-there run. I'm just not sure I can make them at a low enough price point that would make sense for me and the people potentially buying them.

    Well for me at least the price isn't too much of a concern. Mine is a family game that was in my grandparents basement from 1963 until this year. I inherited it when my grandma died so the eventual restoration is almost a money is not an issue thing

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    #236 6 months ago

    Materials arrived. I cut a vent hole in the mold and readied the mold for casting. I'm using Smooth On Dragon Skin 30 silicone for the casting. The silicone is clear and needs to be colored. You can either add dye to the silicone and then pour it or paint the silicone after with a silicone based paint. I'm going to be doing a bit of both. I'm dyeing the silicone before pouring to set the base color and then I will paint on the black, red, and yellow. Smooth On makes a paint called Psycho Paint for their Dragon Skin and the same pigment can be used for the Dragon Skin and the Psycho paint.

    Does anyone have experience or recommendations on a air brush system?

    Cure time is 17 hours

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    #237 6 months ago

    There were a few small bubbles in the bottom where the pour spout was and the top of the head didn't line up 100% (probably too much pressure from the rubber band). All in all big success. It's got the right amount of hardness. It feels like a giant pink eraser. I'm going to remove the flashing (excess silicone) and try my hand at painting it. I still need to find the right material for the back and how to attach it to keep the clown on its assembly. Without further ado.....

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    #238 6 months ago

    That's clown looks great!

    #239 5 months ago

    Looking good man!
    Curious how those paints work out, the smooth on rep is always coming by my shop trying to sell me those but they all seem pretty glossy, for my work I need everything to be matte, looking forward to see it painted
    B

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