Have you played the new code yet?

Theres a jackpot there for FUEL mode, and on combos. Dunno bout SnD...

I don't play Metallica much anymore Coffin MB is annoying to lock, and the lack of anything substanital for scoring except for multiballfest is starting to wear on me. SnD is a nice thing to try for but by the time I get it I'm tired of all the damn multiballs, and it's scoring on its own is outweighed by a multiball 4x rampage.

Now stacking SnD and MB's is pretty fun i know...

This thread is super helpful - quick question, if you are playing on location, how can you figure out what code is on a machine? Should I turn it on and off? Gotta try some of this on the one at Gestalt here in SF tonight!

Yes Genex, turning the machine off and then on again will tell you what the current software is on the DMD.

Bumping the thread so that somebody can explain the scoring on the pop bumpers. Does the scoring grow as you shot the ball back up there? What do the numbers on the DMD signify as the ball bounces around in the pop bumpers? Got my machine last week and still trying to get all the rules down. It seems more complicated than AC/DC at this point but I will probably figure it out in time.

After you hit the grave marker drops how can you make your bonus multiplier grow? I have seen 6 X once or twice but I have no idea how it got to that point...

Right AJK. Also, even with the drops down, the grave marker stand-up target behind them will increase bonus X as long as the gravemarker target is being registered for qualifying gravemarker multiball.

Glad I asked. I would have never figured that out on my own. The game is so damn fast it's hard to follow prompts on the DMD.(Or directions)

This is correct to my knowledge. Shots to the cross immediately following cross MB won't do anything (which is when I smash it like 5 times in a row), but shots that progress to cross MB will add bonus X even if they aren't drop target shots.

Has anyone fully analyzed the drop target reset logic in terms of knocking down crosses in another MB? If you have a few targets down you can progress the next drop target or two in a MB, and when that MB ends the targets wont reset on a 'reset' shot, but if you start the cross targets from scratch in another MB and shoot a 'reset' shot after that MB ends, they reset the progress - can you hit cross shot prior to the 'reset' shot and actually lock in the progress achieved in MB?

It's not so much that they reset the progress, rather they become fillers (that only award bonus x) and progress toward Gravemarker mb is resumed when you start hitting the grave marker stand-up target after re-clearing the drop targets. I THINK any shot where the snake insert is lit (except for the gravemarker shot itself) will reset the drop targets in single ball play.

The answer to your ending question is Yes. You just have to be careful not to hit a reset shot during single ball play or you will get the fillers in your way again (fillers which award bonus x). Now if the number of shots required to start grave marker mb is less than the number of drop targets which are raised, the drops become fillers (fillers for mb, but always rewarding bonus x until mb is started). So the drop targets take on a dual role: they make progress towards mb if more shots are required than the number of drop targets standing in your way to start gravemarker mb and become fillers if less than or the same number of shots are required (for the same number then the grave marker stand-up will be flashing when the last drop is cleared).

Thank you.
Solarride.

How to play 1.22??? Unplug machine, wait 5 months for code....

Question about FUEL...

I understand that completing FUEL standups advances the gauge. But are there modes awarded (double scoring) already at the first FUEL completion? And/or later FUEL completions? That is before the gauge is at max.

Are ALL modes/jackpots started/collected via the dead end shot? Or are anything started by FUEL completion/gauge completion?

Does awards qualified at the dead end time out? Can you qualify double scoring and let it sit till it pleases you to collect it?

What is added to the FUEL champion high score?

Bump.

C'mon, somebody gotta know.

Pinballnews have not made their marathon walkthrough yet. Perhaps they wait for a more finalised game code to arrive.

I know other threads have covered this, but don't have them bookmarked. In short...
- Each time you spell FUEL, you advance the FUEL meter and qualify one timed 2x scoring via the dead end (purple light). I don't believe the ability to start 2x scoring once qualified is on a timer.
- Start 2x scoring by shooting the dead end. Reset the timer for 2x by shooting the dead end again (very similar to ACDC bell, except there is no additional level for 3x scoring).
- 2x scoring can be combined with Snake 2x scoring during MB's.
- Completing the FUEL gauge with enough spelling of FUEL qualifies Fuel mode. Start Fuel by hitting targets again. Fuel mode timer is shown via fuel gauge on DMD as well as on PF.
- Fuel jackpots are collected at dead end (I think).
- I don't know of other jackpots collected at dead end -- Sparky, Snake, Grave, and Coffin MB jackpots are at their corresponding shots and not the dead end.

I don't own one, so take all of this with a grain of salt.

Correct. Fuel mode has two things going on: Fast scoring and jackpots. Jackpots are collected in the dead end, and is relit by hitting the fuel standup. The standup raises the jackpot and the fuel switch scoring at all times I believe.

- I don't know of other jackpots collected at dead end -- Sparky, Snake, Grave, and Coffin MB jackpots are at their corresponding shots and not the dead end.

There is a combo jackpot lit at fuel during any combo, it grows depending on the length of the combo.

A coffin jackpot is at the dead end as well and is required to collect to light the super.

Here's hoping movingpictures is furiously typing up 1.5 rules right now!

I think he should wait till the next update.( the 2 songs & whatever additions that are included )

I'm still really looking forward to Pinball News finishing up their article with "all the rules".

Your efforts are appreciated by many. Thanks!

I wouldn't even bother doing anything other than playing and having fun for a couple weeks, since the more rules are around the corner.

Or is it four songs? The two voted on ("RTL" and "Blackened"), plus "My Apocolypse" and "The Four Horsemen," which were discovered in the text tab in the Pinball Browser.

Is this confirmed? I started CIU last night with SnD running and James's countdown restarted at 10...9...8.... while CIU ran. I can't confirm the SnD points were being awarded but the timer was certainly still running...

I'm thinking it will be four songs, as one for each band member mode would make sense. If this is true, which song do you think will be for each member? I'm thinking Lars = Four Horsemen, James = RTL, Kirk = Blackened, and Robert = My Apocalypse. Pure speculation though.

I saw the option to bank 5,000,000 besides starting a CIU mode but wasn't sure why. So maybe.

Thought I'd contribute what I think I know.

CIU mode goals (all CIU scoring can be doubled by 2X playfield AFAIK):

For whom the bell tolls:
All inserts unlight, cross inserts flash. Goal is to make each shot 3 times to light cross, snake, chair for jackpots. (Think Jericho)
Once a lane is complete, points awarded are reduced by about ~75% on that shot
Light all inserts for completion bonus (25 mil I think?)

Fade to black:
All inserts light
Certain number of switch hits award jackpots.
I believe one shot will have all inserts flashing for a jackpot - changes randomly after collecting. (?)
Enough jackpots dim lighting down to 'black' for mode completion bonus (?)

Battery:
Bash sparky a bunch (12?) of times. I know very little about this one, but I believe it's the lowest scoring mode. Mode completion is only 15 mil I believe.

Enter Sandman (By far most difficult mode but most fun imo.)
All inserts unlight, three random inserts will flash. Shoot the lit insert to 'lock' it in for a jackpot (multiple inserts on one shot lock multiple inserts and award multiple jackpots)
EVERY switch hit (ie missed shot) will randomly cycle the lit inserts, changing what you are shooting for next.
Shooting on the fly and amassing an appreciable bonus is extremely difficult in the early shots
Light all inserts for completion bonus.

CIU jackpot:
Hit Sparky, Cross, Snake, Coffin to light the 4 main inserts again and light CIU jackpot in the scoop. Shoot scoop to choose to collect the jackpot or continue CIU mode. CIU jackpot is based on jackpots scored during the mode and is affected by 2X playfield scoring.

Mode completion Bonus:
The mode completion bonus is NOT added to the CIU jackpot by default (an adjustment can make this so).
I don't know if it is affected by 2X playfield

Coffin will be moving to a death magnetic song if Borg's past statements on a podcast ring true. It makes sense since right now 'for whom the bell tolls' is being used for two modes, and I doubt the CIU mode is changing as there are sound clips and dots associated with it.

I was kinda hoping for all nightmare long, but My Apocalypse would be a VERY close second imo...

After CIU Jackpot is collected in the scoop, single ball play resumes, with all spider arrow shots lit orange (premium - dunno about what pro does to indicate). Collecting all orange arrows lights CIU scoop for a jackpot worth 1/4 the CIU score you pulled out of the mode (I believe). The lanes then relight and this will go on as an available scoring opportunity until you drain. I assume this can be doubled by 2X PF

This does not seem to carry into a multiball (so no 4X), but is still available after a multiball is over.

No clue about what happens with another CIU mode on the same ball.

I heard that Four Horsemen and My Apocolypse were requested by Stern. Metallica said no, we want the fans to vote and thus, the web poll.

Thanks MP

I manually got to EOTL to see how it works, some notes which might help.

After completing 3 of the 4 CIU modes and shooting the shoot for the 4th you get to start EOTL.

it starts as a 2 ball multiball.

all arrowed shots are Red, shooting each arrow changes it to green, once you have them all done one of them turns Teal, shooting this breaks through the end of the line on the DMD, and launches off a cliff.

that adds another ball and repeats the process. you can do this until you have all balls running and then you are just collecting massive jackpots.

all the main shots light up the 4 indicators on the bottom half of the playfield and once you have all 4 they go dark again and you can repeat it. i didn't notice if that grants any special bonus or not.

This was done on a premium.

I made a basic video touching on the basics of the gameplay (more for people new to the game).

Finally got to play 1.5 last night on a Prem/LE. Fantastic stuff!
I'll add some additional observations to CIU...

Between the spinners and pops, orbit shots pay off big in this mode.
Completion bonus for FTB is 15M base, and completion bonuses are NOT affected by jackpot values you collected during the mode. Yes, it can be doubled with 2x scoring running.

Note that in the choice presented on the DMD to you to collect the CIU jackpot (ending the mode) or continuing, the CIU jackpot value displayed is the BASE value, prior to being multiplied by 2x. Had a 47M FTB CIU jackpot that I chose to cash in, and my actual award was 94M!

Mode completion is indeed affected by 2x PF. (see sk8ball's video where he gets a 30M FTB completion bonus).

The Skill Shot is very nuanced and cool now!
Correction to above: if you hit the one "all inserts flashing" super skill shot -- let's call this one the Super Hurry-Up Skill Shot -- it immediately <qualifies> that hurry-up, but doesn't start it (so you can take your time stacking up qualified hurry-ups if you want the mega-points cash in).

Additionally...
- Any Super Skill Shot (not just the Super Hurry-Up) adds points to the base value of your next Skill Shot. I believe the Super Hurry-Up Skill Shot adds a higher amount of points to the base value.
- By holding the left flipper button, you can now skillfully plunge the upper left rollover lane for 2x Skill Shot, or the upper right rollover lane for 4x Skill Shot.
- I believe hitting the dead end lane for your Super Skill Shot will immediately qualify a 2x playfield upon your next shot to the dead end.

i'm still discovering rules on this pin...
the only things i'm sure at the moment is that pin is top notch !

(and topic up)

Apologies, I moved my Youtube video and the link is broken,

unfortunately I can no longer edit my post so here is the link again.

I Really hope there will be something like this in the next code .

Before you make the rollovers and get some Award...when you shoot the ball in the scoop it simply gives you back the ball I would like it to say things like, Nothing here for you Loser .

Great video thanks for posting.

I'm learning the rules, but one has me stumped. On my premium, the spider(?) insert turns blue on the last shot you made. What is the significance of this? Sorry if I missed this if it was previously mentioned. I did a search and found little information about these inserts other than they light red for combo shots.

Rob

I dont have a prem, but i believe that is the lit shot for seek and destroy mode. The inserts for cross/snake/sparky on the lit lane will turn on when u shoot the respective shot.

Basic example:
Spider/arrow on left ramp is lit, and the sparky insert isnt lit.
If you hit sparky, it should light the sparky insert on the left ramp.

This is how you progress to seek and destroy mode. And it also helps progress towards the crank it up modes.

Correct! When it turns blue on, say the left orbit shot, you lock that shot so that you are able to light Sparky, grave, etc inserts on that same orbit. When an insert is lit solid, like sparky insert on the left orbit, that orbit shot counts as a sparky shot towards "Crank it up" also.

Knowing the inserts light rules on Metallica makes a huge difference. The game goes from good to Awsome right there

Lock the shot?

Rob

Aside from the snake inserts, you can only light inserts under a blue/purple spider.
(You work on 1 set of inserts at a time)
You'll notice that the spider is at: left loop, cemetery, left ramp, right ramp, and right loop.
To light/move a blue spider, make one of those shots.
So... If you have the left loop blue spider lit, and you hit sparky, the sparky insert will light up. If, instead, you miss the sparky and hit the right ramp, the blue spider will now be lit at the right ramp (only 1 blue spider is lit at any one time).
Once you have a whole row of inserts lit, you have to make that shot again, and then hit the hammer block to cash in on the hurry up.
Complete all the rows of inserts to start seek and destroy mode.

Frustrating thing is when you're working on a row, and then hit a grave marker. You'll see that you have then moved the spider so need to make your initial row shot once more to continue working that row again.

Make sense?

Yes, thanks for the clarification on the rules.

Now if I could just stop airballs off sparky's feet.....

Rob

"Hey man, it's empty!"
"The snake ate all my loot!"
"Sssssssorry, sucker!"

I love the 'Noooooo!' quote on a side drain. It sounds a lot like Otto from the Simpsons...

Rob